RIP 2011

[Alex]

Pete Postlethwaite (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1343650/Actor-Pete-Postlethwaite-dies-age-64.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)

One of the great "hey, it's that guy" guys. Kobayashi in The Usual Suspects being my favorite.

[Alex]

Anne Francis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Francis) of Forbidden Planet and Honey West.

[blueerica]

Pete Postlethwaite (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1343650/Actor-Pete-Postlethwaite-dies-age-64.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)

One of the great "hey, it's that guy" guys. Kobayashi in The Usual Suspects being my favorite.

Wow - some sad news indeed. RIP

[Capt Jack]

Anne Francis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Francis) of Forbidden Planet and Honey West.

always really dug her. gorgeous eyes and built to the hilt.
farewell Ms Francis


:(

[Morrigoon]

Oh yeah, he was great

[RStar]

Wow, this thread didn't take long to get started. :(

I dug Anne's mole......

[lindyhop]

John Olguin, the director of the Cabrillo Marine Museum, died on Saturday. I had the pleasure of seeing him work with children a couple of times. He'd get everybody doing the grunion dance. He was a wonderful educator.

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Anne Francis stars in -WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE MOVIE?- Forbidden Planet

[Moonliner]

Anne Francis stars in -WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE MOVIE?- Forbidden Planet

I saw that movie. I'm fairly sure it was part of a late night, double feature, picture show.

[Betty]

I saw that movie. I'm fairly sure it was part of a late night, double feature, picture show.

I wanna go-o-o oh-oh-oh-oh-oooooOooo!

[Strangler Lewis]

Forbidden Planet deaths do come in threes. First Walter Pidgen, now Leslie Nielsen and Anne Francis.

[JWBear]

Anne Francis stars in -WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE MOVIE?- Forbidden Planet

I saw that movie. I'm fairly sure it was part of a late night, double feature, picture show.

I wanna go-o-o oh-oh-oh-oh-oooooOooo!

Thanks guys... Now I have that song stuck in my head.

[Kevy Baby]

Gerry Rafferty (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/01/05/gerry-rafferty-scottish-singer-dies-at-63/) - 70's pop star

[CoasterMatt]

Bud Hurlbut (http://ocresort.ocregister.com/2011/01/06/knotts-berry-farm-icon-dies/66158/) - Creator of the Calico Mine Ride, a pioneer in the theme park industry, and a truly wonderful person.

[Gn2Dlnd]

This suicide letter (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/01/the-agonising-last-words-of-bill-zeller/) from a man named Bill Zeller has deeply affected me. In my case, certainly, I did not suffer the same physical issues as he, though many other aspects of his experience resonate. The paragraph about his family in particular.

I'm grateful, that in my case, I feel I have people I can talk to. I'm incredibly sad that he did not feel the same.

As is so often the case, it's probably best to avoid reading the comments thereafter.

[Betty]

This suicide letter (http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/01/the-agonising-last-words-of-bill-zeller/) from a man named Bill Zeller has deeply affected me. In my case, certainly, I did not suffer the same physical issues as he, though many other aspects of his experience resonate. The paragraph about his family in particular.

I'm grateful, that in my case, I feel I have people I can talk to. I'm incredibly sad that he did not feel the same.

As is so often the case, it's probably best to avoid reading the comments thereafter.

I read about him yesterday - what a sad story.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

Lloyd Beebe (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0066256/), animal trainer, photographer for True Life Adventures, and one of my favorites:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EFQ9203YL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

There's a good interview with him here:

https://kb.osu.edu/dspace/bitstream/1811/6056/1/Beebe,%20LLoyd%20FinalTranscript.pdf

[Alex]

Director Peter Yates (Bullitt, Breaking Away, and--most importantly--Mother, Jugs & Speed).

[Strangler Lewis]

Sad. I loved Mother, Jugs and Speed, and though it's been a while, I think it holds up better than Bullitt.

[Strangler Lewis]

Dick Winters (http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20110110/US.Obit.Winters/):

Lead actor in "Band of Brothers," one of my favorite movies.

[Gemini Cricket]

Dick Winters (http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20110110/US.Obit.Winters/):

Lead actor in "Band of Brothers," one of my favorite movies.
Well, he was who the lead was based on.
:)

[Strangler Lewis]

Now, I'm confused. It was a Spielberg movie.

[Gemini Cricket]

Now, I'm confused. It was a Spielberg movie.
Mini-series. Yes, you are confused. ;) lol

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

David Nelson dies at 74; last surviving member of the TV sitcom family
http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-david-nelson-20110112,0,1039470.story

[Mousey Girl]

That makes me sad. I used to love watching that show.

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Superman's Mom - Susan York

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni6919173/

[Kevy Baby]

Zsa Zsa Gabor's right leg

[Kevy Baby]

R. Sargent Shriver (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110118/ap_on_re_us/us_obit_shriver) (Didn't realize he was still alive)

and

Don Kirshner (http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2011/01/don-kirshner-record-producer-and-tv-host-dies-at-76.html)

[Moonliner]

Rex the Wonder Dog.

http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/stevesphotobook/android/rex.jpg

You were a grumpy old dog from the day we brought you home and I'll miss you forever.

[Not Afraid]

Awww, Moonie. I'm sorry!

[Snowflake]

Moonie! So sorry for your loss.

Rex, good luck and hope you are less grumpy once you've crossed that rainbow bridge.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

So sorry, Moonliner.

[Capt Jack]

Rex the Wonder Dog.

my deepest condolences to you.

:(

[Kevy Baby]

My condolences Moonie on the loss of a family member.

[CoasterMatt]

Sorry to hear of your loss. :(

[DreadPirateRoberts]

:(

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Sorry to hear this, Moonliner.

[Gemini Cricket]

Sorry to hear that, Moonie.
:(

[flippyshark]

The world needs more Wonder Dogs, not fewer. I'm sorry to hear of your loss.

[mousepod]

Sorry for your loss, Moonie. (way to bring a death thread down, btw)

[cirquelover]

I'm sorry Moonie

[katiesue]

Moonie - sorry for your loss.

[€uroMeinke]

Having thought I was going to loose Kimchi last night, I deeply feel your loss. Condolences to you and your family

[BarTopDancer]

Puppy! :(

[Gemini Cricket]

What happened to Kimchi?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

What happened to Kimchi?Check Lisa's Facebook.

[wendybeth]

Moonie, I'm so sorry! Our dog is getting old and her arthritis and hip dysplasia is really starting to make her quality of life very poor- I'm dreading losing her. Like all family members, she has her moments where she is a PITA, but I love her with all my heart and she is irreplaceable.

[blueerica]

I'm so sorry to hear this, Moonie. My condolences...

[Morrigoon]

So sorry Moonie

[Strangler Lewis]

Very sorry to hear about your dog.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Legendary costume designer Theoni V. Aldredge (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/22/arts/design/22aldredge.html)

She won three Tonys (nominated for 14) and an Oscar & British Academy Award for The Great Gatsby. In 1984 more than 1,000 of her costumes could be seen in five musicals running simultaneously on Broadway: A Chorus Line, Dreamgirls, La Cage aux Folles, 42nd Street, and The Rink.

On Tuesday Broadway theaters will be dimming their lights to honor her memory.

[Snowflake]

Jack LaLanne at 96. RIP

[flippyshark]

Jack LaLanne at 96. RIP

That's pretty good - guess I need to start in with the push-ups and jumping jacks.

[RStar]

That's pretty good - guess I need to start in with the push-ups and jumping jacks.

Which makes me wonder, were Jumping Jacks named after him?

ETA: Nope, it was named after a toy. Although, Mr. LaLanne did take the credit for making them popular in the US.

[CoasterMatt]

He's gonna carry his own casket at his funeral.

RIP Mr. LaLanne - you were quite a remarkable guy.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Jack LaLanne at 96. RIPPED

There ya go.


And he's STILL in better shape than me.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Looks like I missed a page! So sorry to hear about Moondoggie, and how scary about Kimchi! She's ok, now?

[Kevy Baby]

She's ok, now?Somewhere (else) either Chris or Lisa posted that she just got ahold of a small plastic character. She passed it the old fashioned way which didn't require surgery and she is doing fine now.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Was it the kind that squeaked?

poopsqueak

[alphabassettgrrl]

Moonie, I'm sorry. We know how it is to adore a grumpy old (young) dog.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

Somewhere (else) either Chris or Lisa posted that she just got ahold of a small plastic character. She passed it the old fashioned way which didn't require surgery and she is doing fine now.

I'd suggest we keep plastic toys away from NA

[Kevy Baby]

I just checked, and Michael Jackson is still dead.

[Capt Jack]

...plastic toys...

...Michael Jackson...

Im sensing a theme

[CoasterMatt]

"Uncle Milton" RIP :(

Uncle Milton Industries, a leading manufacturer of science and nature exploration products, sadly announces the death of its founder Milton Levine, who passed away on January 16, 2011 at age 97. Levine was best known as a toy industry pioneer and inventor of the Ant Farm®, a staple in homes and classrooms for more than 50 years.

[Kevy Baby]

I was just coming here to post that: read about it (http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-milton-levine-20110126,0,4629044.story) at lunch

[Not Afraid]

Edgar Tafel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110125/ap_on_en_ot/us_obit_tafel), the last of Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesin Fellowship (One of Wright's "Nine Old Men").

[innerSpaceman]

Why is RIP 2011 already 3 pages long IN JANUARY???






(I can hardly wait for RIP 2012 - by December, it will load slower than the Sooooooo Thread.)

[Kevy Baby]

Why is RIP 2011 already 3 pages long IN JANUARY???Change your Posts per Page setting (Control Panel > Edit Options > Thread Display Options > Number of Posts to Show Per Page) and it will be fewer.

Heck, you could view the Sooooo..... (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=8963) thread (in its current iteration) in just 18 pages!

[Not Afraid]

Maybe we should hold a "Message Board Functions 101" class?:D

[BarTopDancer]

Maybe we should hold a "Message Board Functions 101" class?:D

wat iz a message bored?

[Cynthia]

Yes please do :)

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Charlie Callas:
http://www.thewrap.com/television/column-post/comedian-charlie-callas-dies-86-24308

Several Mel Brooks films - 50 Tonight Show appearances - But remembered as the voice of Elliot the dragon in Pete's Dragon.

RiP

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Another funny guy gone... :(

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/29/arts/29frye.html?_r=1

David Frye - Recorded several "First Family" albums, known for his dead on imitation of Richard Nixon. I still have my LP's. Funny ****...

[Snowflake]

Film Composer John Barry.

:(

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Film Composer John Barry.

:(

Seriously one of the BEST composers ever. He was amazing and his music was moving ... RiP

[cirquelover]

I loved Last Tango in Paris and sadly Maria Schneider has passed away. She was only 58.

http://entertainment.msn.com/news/article.aspx?news=626700

[Kevy Baby]

... sadly Maria Schneider has passed away.I'll bet this person (http://www.mariaschneider.com/) is going to have a long day.

[€uroMeinke]

Tura Santana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tura_Satana)

The Star of Faster Pussy Cat Kill Kill

See some scenes here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF_kuTd1xeQ&feature=related/)

And her NSFW spider pool pic can be seen behind the spoiler

http://photos.shebloggedbynight.com/i.ashx?gallery=279943&mid=12513922&mt=Photo&standardsize=originalhttp://

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Bill Justice - RiP

"Justice joined Walt Disney Studios in 1937 and animated Chip 'n' Dale as well as Thumper in 'Bambi.' He directed the animated opening for the TV series 'The Mickey Mouse Club.'"

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-bill-justice-20110211,0,6806641.story

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Betty Garrett (http://blogs.laweekly.com/stylecouncil/2011/02/stage_raw_betty_garrett_dies_a.php?print=true)
Star of stage & screen, best known to my generation as Edna Babish DeFazio on Laverne & Shirley.

[Strangler Lewis]

That was a shot, dere, Irene. Very sad.

[Snowflake]

Kenneth Mars

Linkie (http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20110214/US.Obit.Kenneth.Mars/)

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Kenneth Mars

Linkie (http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20110214/US.Obit.Kenneth.Mars/)

Always wanted to have a nice quiet shat... RiP

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Joanne Siegel - wife of Superman creator and model for Lois Lane - RiP

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/02/14/joanne-siegel-passes/

[Alex]

Len Lesser, one of those "hey, it's that guy" guys.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110217/ap_en_ot/us_obit_lesser

[cirquelover]

Yep, I do remember that guy!

[Kevy Baby]

Len Lesser, one of those "hey, it's that guy" guys.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110217/ap_en_ot/us_obit_lesserWasn't he the lesser of two evils?

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Dwayne McDuffie - RiP - Comic Writer

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30978

Sad his All-Star Superman animated feature was just released today.

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Dwayne McDuffie - RiP - Comic Writer

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=30978

Sad his All-Star Superman animated feature was just released today.

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Ummm. what?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Dodger great and hall of famer, Duke Snider (http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110227&content_id=16753150&vkey=news_la&c_id=la)

[wolfy999]

Jane Russell

[Kevy Baby]

Dodger great and hall of famer, Duke Snider (http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110227&content_id=16753150&vkey=news_la&c_id=la)Pisser. We lost a good one!

[Kevy Baby]

Jane RussellPisser. We lost a good pair!

[Kevy Baby]

Frank Buckles, last known World War I veteran, dies at 110 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/28/AR2011022807013.html)

[CoasterMatt]

Matthew "Mamoosh" Sullivan - a dear friend and generally wonderful person.

Holiday World's official blog had this (http://www.holidayworld.com/node/3504) post.

[Morrigoon]

Unfortunately, Mike Starr (http://www.cnn.com/2011/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/09/obit.mike.starr/?hpt=T2) of Alice in Chains... who you may remember from Celebrity Rehab.

[Not Afraid]

Our Golden Boy, Charles. Rest in Peace Sweet Boy.https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v5205/235/1/1072426941/n1072426941_545397_8248332.jpg?dl=1

[Kevy Baby]

You're gonna be missed sweetie!

[wendybeth]

:( We love Charles- he'll be very missed. Hugs to you guys, and you rock for giving him such a loving and wonderful home.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I'm sure he appreciates all you've done for him and giving him a home.

[Ghoulish Delight]

:( :( :(

I'll miss you, Chuck.

[Gemini Cricket]

He was such a beautiful boy!

[flippyshark]

RIP, Charles. I know you were loved. May your furry legacy live on.

[Disneyphile]

Oh no! He was one of my faves! Poor kitty boy. :( I'm so sorry.

[Strangler Lewis]

I'm sorry to hear about Charles. I know he was very special to you.

[RStar]

My sympathies, Lisa. Even in such a simple picture I can see a lot of personality in that kitty.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

He was a total sweetheart! I fondly remember petting him for long periods of time and will miss doing that again. He was fortunate to have such a wonderful caregiver.

[Morrigoon]

Hugh Martin (http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,2058594,00.html), composer of "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas"

[Snowflake]

Aw, Charles was a love bunny, a big ol sweet boy. so glad he showed up on your porch and so glad to have met & pet him. :( :( :(

Hugs to NA & Euro

[Motorboat Cruiser]

So sorry to hear about Charles. :(

[Ghoulish Delight]

Nate Dogg (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-20043797-10391698.html)

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Owsley “Bear” Stanley (http://www.theartsdesk.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=3288:rip-the-acid-king&Itemid=12), the Acid King.

[blueerica]

Nate Dogg (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-20043797-10391698.html)

/insert witty comment about heaven needing a Regulator.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Regulate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1plPyJdXKIY)was a big ass deal...heavy MTV rotation.

/insert witty comment about heaven needing a Regulator.

God is has finished his rap group, Biggie, Eazy, 2Pac and finally Nate Dogg for the hook. R.I.P Nate :(

[Promo-Man]

Michael Gough (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=636068&gt1=28101)

[Kevy Baby]

Michael Gough (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=636068&gt1=28101)Wow - I'm surprised he was still alive.

[Capt Jack]

aww. I liked him :(

[Betty]

I killed a gopher yesterday. Now I feel a little bad about it.

It was sort of on a whim. I walked out of the house and noticed yet another gopher mound. We have a medium sized amount of lawn consising of what I think of as the front, side and back area. In the front area alone were at least 20 mounds, including through my flower bed.

Last year, our first year here, I planted a flower garden and would come out in the morning to find entire plants missing. It was frustrating. I had tried drowning them out with water with no success.

This year I've been wanting to start a vegetable garden and knew the gopher would be an issue. I saw the fresh mound and went for the garden hose, easily finding his underground tunnel. I started the water down it and after a good 5 minutes of it going, I wondered just how far it was reaching.

About this time, I remember reading online that the gopher is not supposed to drown but he'll pop out of one of his other mounds and I should bonk him with a shovel. And right then, of course, out comes his soppy wet butt out of another mound. And he just sits there.

At this point, I'm thinking OH NO! WHAT NOW! I don't REALLY want to have to kill this thing personally do I?

I call my dogs - 2 chihuahua's. One about 6 pounds and the other, Mousey, is about 4. Mousey (good girl!) came running towards me and the gopher. The gopher just sat there. Mousey did not see it. (tricky gopher!) I pointed out the gopher and before I could think, Mousey had picked it up and shook the living heck out of it.

I should point out now that Mousey really thinks she's a cat. She goes in the cats litter box. She does not play with dog toys (never has) but since getting a cat, she goes crazy for the cat toys (and still doesn't play with the dog toys.) She also tries to sneak the cats food!

Anyway, she's shaking the gopher and I'm wondering what next. She puts it down and it looks up wiht the big ol' teeth and I'm thinking again WHAT NEXT WHAT SHOULD I DO! so I got the shovel and bonked it on the head.

The whole time my bigger, more aggressive dog Rocky who likes to run with the big dogs in the neighborhood when he gets out and acts all tough? He hid in the house.

I scooped up the gopher and put him in the trash. I think maybe I should have thrown him over the fence for something to eat - maybe I'd feel better about it then? My husband assures me he's already back in our lawn since I didn't cut his head off. ! eek!

For now, I'm considering a raised planter with chicken wire for the bottom and around the edges. We also have bunnies and there is NO WAY I can do that to another gopher let alone a bunny.

[Betty]

So I just went for the first time today and there are 5 more mounds. Either my husband was right or I killed one of a family. I don't know if I should feel better or worse.

[CoasterMatt]

As long as it doesn't show up in the "What's for Dinner?" thread.

[alphabassettgrrl]

With gophers, if there's one, there are more. And yes, it stinks to have to deal with them. I keep hoping our cat will start hunting them.

We planted a row of roses, and entirely enclosed the roots in chicken wire. The gopher has checked them out, but can't get at the roots, so it seems to have been successful.

We poisoned the last batch of gophers that were in the lawn. I'm with you on killing them personally... yuck. Good luck with your problem.

[Capt Jack]

when we had them as a kid my dad made a windmill on a pole and drilled the center pivot off-center about 1/8 of an inch so it would wobble when it spun. his theory was that it would send constant vibrations into the ground, making their homes unlivable (sort of like living next door to a constant ongoing jackhammer) the windmill stood in the yard for decades and we never saw another gopher.

a nice non-lethal alternative

[Betty]

My mom suggested something similar to that - one or more of those yellow sunflower spinners you stick into your lawn (for the same reason.)

The gophers, by the way, are seeking revenge. More gopher holes then ever and now outside the fence as well. Are we being invaded? ;)

[Capt Jack]

well....in a word, yes. gophers will establish colonies in an area of high resources.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Emily Litella wants to know why the racehorses are getting high. And why don't they just share with the gophers?

[Morrigoon]

That one took me a sec to get.... but it's cute :)

[RStar]

Pinetop Perkins, last of the great Delta Bluesmen, dead at 97 (http://www.spinner.com/2011/03/21/pinetop-perkins-dead/?icid=main%7Chp-desktop%7Cdl5%7Csec3_lnk3%7C206916)

[RStar]

Unfortunatly, I can't say this surprises me with as sick as she has been: Elizabeth Taylor (http://www.popeater.com/2011/03/23/elizabeth-taylor-dead/?icid=main%7Chp-desktop%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk1%7C207065)

[innerSpaceman]

:(

Don't know precisely why, but my cheese is sad about Liz Taylor.

[Not Afraid]

I'm sad about Taylor as well. She was a great actress with many amazing roles. My favorite films of hers: A Place in the Sun; Suddenly Last Summer; Cat on a Hit Tin Roof; and Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf. That's a lot of really great films and roles for one actress!

RIP Liz.

[Alex]

I've never really thought she was a great actress (or even particularly good) but she was a great movie star and, frankly, that's a lot less common.

[Not Afraid]

I've never really thought she was a great actress (or even particularly good) but she was a great movie star and, frankly, that's a lot less common.

I could probably agree with you there. Meryl Streep is a great actress.

[CoasterMatt]

She was so wonderful at Halloween Horror Nights in 2009.

[Snowflake]

:(

Don't know precisely why, but my cheese is sad about Liz Taylor.


I posted my thoughts here (http://strictly-vintage-hollywood.blogspot.com/2011/03/elizabeth-taylor.html)

I agree with everyone, she was a great beauty, could sometimes be a great actress. I feel she eclipsed her beauty and her fame with her humanitarian work with AmFar and The Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation (and probably many more charities I know nothing about).

It's cliched, she was one of the last great movie stars, when it meant something being a "movie star."

She was earthy and she also had a lot of class.

[innerSpaceman]

Excellent tribute, Snowflake.

[Gn2Dlnd]

I got to see her and Richard Burton in Noel Coward's Private Lives at the Wilshire Theatre. It was opening night (I have no recollection of how I scored tickets), and it was like being at the Oscars. The place was packed with celebrities, and, despite the cranky reviews (http://nymag.com/arts/theater/features/50176/), I recall everyone, including Liz and Dick, having a rollicking good time.

Sad cheese, indeed. When Michael Jackson died, I felt worse for Liz than I did anyone in the Jackson family. After Richard Burton, it seemed that Michael truly was her soul-mate.

[Snowflake]

A friend just alerted me to this photography (http://www.lacma.org/art/ExhibInstallations.aspx#eti) exhibit at LACMA, Elizabeth Taylor in Iran through June. I hope to squeeze it in during the May visit. Looks like some gorgeous photos.

[Gemini Cricket]

:(

Don't know precisely why, but my cheese is sad about Liz Taylor.
Same here.
:(

[Strangler Lewis]

Farewell to the last of the great bad actresses.

[Snowflake]

Farewell to the last of the great bad actresses.


I dunno Strangler, Zsa Zsa is still alive (barely).

[Strangler Lewis]

I saw that Zsa Zsa was once again rushed to the hospital because her publicity levels had dropped.

But, seriously, making a few bad films doesn't make Zsa Zsa an actress any more than it makes Paris Hilton one.

[Alex]

And in the spirit of my stupid list keeping, I'd like to welcome Alan Arkin to the Top 25 Oldest Living Academy Award Winning Actors List and congratulate Joel Grey, Ellen Burstyn, and Michael Caine on each moving up a spot in that last.

[JWBear]

And in the spirit of my stupid list keeping, I'd like to welcome Alan Arkin to the Top 25 Oldest Living Academy Award Winning Actors List and congratulate Joel Grey, Ellen Burstyn, and Michael Caine on each moving up a spot in that last.

Who's #1?

[Alex]

Luise Rainer at 101.1 years old. And she's way in the lead, 2nd place goes to Olivia de Havilland (94.7) followed by Ernest Borgnine (94.1), Celeste Holm (93.9), and Olivia's sister, Joan Fontaine (93.4).

[Alex]

And for the record, Jennifer Hudson at 29.5 is currently the youngest living Academy Awarding winning actor (being about 90 days younger than Natalie Portman).

[Not Afraid]

Luise Rainer at 101.1 years old. And she's way in the lead, 2nd place goes to Olivia de Havilland (94.7) followed by Ernest Borgnine (94.1), Celeste Holm (93.9), and Olivia's sister, Joan Fontaine (93.4).

I would consider Taylor a "movie star" in the classic sense as I would de Havilland and Fontaine. I'm curious who else is on that list that would fall into the classic movie star category. Lauren Bacall perhaps? Who else is still alive?

[Strangler Lewis]

As Alan Swann said in panic in "My Favorite Year" when learning he'd be doing live TV, an actor's dream, "I'm not an actor. I'm a movie star."

[Alex]

I would consider Taylor a "movie star" in the classic sense as I would de Havilland and Fontaine. I'm curious who else is on that list that would fall into the classic movie star category. Lauren Bacall perhaps? Who else is still alive?

This is the entire top 25.

Luise Rainer - 101.106
Olivia de Havilland - 94.724
Ernest Borgnine - 94.157
Celeste Holm - 93.897
Joan Fontaine - 93.415
Cliff Robertson - 87.535
Eva Marie Saint - 86.716
Dorothy Malone - 86.141
George Kennedy - 86.089
Cloris Leachman - 84.895
Sidney Poitier - 84.085
Lee Grant - 83.392
Estelle Parsons - 83.337
Martin Landau - 82.754
Gene Hackman - 81.142
Joanne Woodward - 81.065
Sean Connery - 80.575
Maximillian Schel - l 80.287
Robert Duvall - 80.211
Olympia Dukakis - 79.756
Rita Moreno - 79.280
Joel Grey - 78.946
Ellen Burstyn - 78.289
Michael Caine - 78.023
Alan Arkin - 76.991

[Strangler Lewis]

While I have not thought of Lee Grant in years, I am still shocked to realize she is 83.

[Strangler Lewis]

Reverend Fred. No, not dead. (http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment-eonline/20110324/b232545/)

[Alex]

Gene Hackman and Sean Connery are the ones that boggle my mind.

[Strangler Lewis]

And if you're keeping score of who would be the oldest living winners of acting Oscars if they were still alive, it looks like George Arliss and Marie Dressler, both at 142, with him having a few months on her.

[Alex]

Yep, if every actor ever to win were still alive these would be the 25 oldest (with birth date):


Marie Dressler - 11/9/1868
George Arliss - 4/10/1868
Charles Coburn - 6/19/1877
Edmund Gwenn - 9/26/1877
Lionel Barrymore - 4/28/1878
Jane Darwell - 10/15/1879
Ethel Barrymore - 8/15/1879
Donald Crisp - 7/27/1882
Walter Huston - 4/6/1884
Emil Jannings - 7/23/1884
Wallace Beery - 4/1/1885
Josephine Hull - 1/3/1886
Victor McLaglen - 12/10/1886
Barry Fitzgerald - 3/10/1888
Warner Baxter - 3/29/1889
Ronald Colman - 2/9/1891
Alice Brady - 11/2/1892
Mary Pickford - 4/8/1892
Margaret Rutherford - 5/11/1892
Hattie McDaniel - 6/10/1892
Thomas Mitchell - 7/11/1892
Fay Bainter - 12/7/1893
Walter Brennan - 7/25/1894
Paul Muni - 9/22/1895
George Burns - 1/20/1896

So Marie Dressler was the first person on the planet born who went on to win an acting Academy Award. The first to go to even be nominated was May Robson, born 4/19/1858.

The first human being to go on to win any main show Academy Award (whose birthdate information is easily available) is George Bernard Shaw, born on 7/26/1856 and who eventually won for his part in Pygmalion. He is also the first to even get a nomination in any category.

Though again, that is based on readily available birthdates. Of the approximately 5,878 people who have been nominated I don't have that information for about 1200 of them.

[Not Afraid]

You have to get pretty close to the bottom of the list to get to a name that I remember as a living person. There may have been some who died after I was born, but it is really only Mary Pickford's and George Burns' deaths that I remember happening. Pickford was a "she's still alive???". So, really it is only George Burns from that list that I actually remember as a living person.

[Morrigoon]

Pickford was a serious businesswoman, for all her girlish looks.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

:(

Don't know precisely why, but my cheese is sad about Liz Taylor.

I'm mostly sad because of all the work she did to bring awareness to the AIDS issue. She supported Rock Hudson when everyone else had pretty much abandon him and worked tirelessly for the cause up until the last few months of her life. I heard someone say today that in the last year or so, it was incredibly difficult physically for her to appear at her fundraisers, due to her failing health, and yet she insisted because she knew that they would raise more money by her being there. A class act all the way, IMO, whether you liked her acting or not.

[Strangler Lewis]

You have to get pretty close to the bottom of the list to get to a name that I remember as a living person. There may have been some who died after I was born, but it is really only Mary Pickford's and George Burns' deaths that I remember happening. Pickford was a "she's still alive???". So, really it is only George Burns from that list that I actually remember as a living person.

I guess you didn't watch many "The Real McCoys" reruns, because I certainly remember Walter Brennan's death, too.

And George Arliss was born before Marie Dressler.

Makes one wonder who the earliest born person ever to appear in a moving picture of any kind is. Could there be someone from the 18th Century?

To me, Liz Taylor's death is sad because her life was sad and people have basically been waiting for her to die for about 30 years.

[Gn2Dlnd]

I think she might disagree with you about her life being sad. In fact, I think she would be shocked that anyone would think so.

[innerSpaceman]

How was her life sad? I just don't get that.


Agree completely with Motorboat Cruiser's post above.




Oh, but the special Liz cocktail they're whipping up for charity sales at the Abbey this weekend sounds gross.

[Alex]

And George Arliss was born before Marie Dressler.

Whoops. I misread what you'd said and didn't look closely when they both floated to the top of the list.

As for oldest on screen, here's the result of poking around with IMDb's Power Searches (keeping in mind that many people don't have birthdate information listed. Quite a few world leaders born early appear in the earliest films (Peopl Leo XIII, Queen Victoria, etc.) but the first credited in IMDb as "Actors" are:

Lotten Amlof, born 7/31/1827. This one seems a bit suspect since her only credit is a 1921 film when she'd have been 94 years old. But who knows.

Daddy Taylor, born 7/9/1828. Another nonagenarian on film if correct as his credit is Chaplin's The Gold Rush in 1925 (when he'd have been 97). But he is credited as "Ancient Dancing Prospector."

Charles Manly, born 9/25/1830. Started a series of short films as Uncle Josh in 1900, worked until 1917.

Sky Hunter born 11/7/1830. Did some kind of short film in 1912.

[Alex]

I don't know if she found her life sad. I could see that from an observer's perspective it is a bit sad that over the last 30 years she was mostly worn down into a tired pop culture joke.

Plus, her last film role was The Flintstones. There's a lot of sadness right in that sentence.

[Not Afraid]

SL didn't like Liz. Imagine that!

[Strangler Lewis]

I liked her fine, the Eddie Fisher mishegoss notwithstanding, and I certainly admire the good works she did. But I think she had a tough road. Child star, eight marriages, Mike Todd's death, Burton's death, etc. I don't think she marries Nicky Hilton, Michael Wilding or Larry Fortensky if her life is in order. Add to that not being able to practice her profession in any meaningful, sustained way from her mid-40s. Obviously, I don't know how she actually felt about all this, but to me her public appearances always seemed weighted with sadness.

[katiesue]

Maddie just told me she's sure Liz was in Grease :rolleyes:

[Morrigoon]

In all the hubbub about gophers and ol' purple eyes, we failed to notice the death of former secretary of state, Warren Christopher (http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/20/local/la-me-christopher-20110320).

[Ghoulish Delight]

Maddie just told me she's sure Liz was in Grease :rolleyes:
Liz...Rizz...close enough.

[Alex]

And now, because I wanted to figure out how to automate something in Excel, and by the time I figured out I couldn't I was too far along not to finish, I present the chart you didn't know you wanted to see until you saw it (and probably not even then):


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5559183769_3990a0bc96_o.png

[Kevy Baby]

And now, because I wanted to figure out how to automate something in Excel, and by the time I figured out I couldn't I was too far along not to finish, I present the chart you didn't know you wanted to see until you saw it (and probably not even then):Interesting. Every single Youngest was a female whereas only five out of the 12 Oldest are female.

Is that sexism or perversion?

[JWBear]

I think someone needs to die so we can get this thread back on topic.

[Strangler Lewis]

Done. (http://www.petaluma360.com/article/20110323/COMMUNITY/110329813/1378/COMMUNITY07?Title=Domingo-Pereira-Jr-dies-at-77)

[JWBear]

Geraldine Ferraro (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/26/us-usa-ferraro-idUSTRE72P1IL20110326?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews)

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Farley Granger (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/farley-granger-strangers-a-train-171994)

[Melonballer]

Author Diana Wynne Jones. (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/books/diana-wynne-jones-childrens-fantasy-author-dies-at-76.html)

[CoasterMatt]

Sidney Lumet (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/movies/sidney-lumet-director-of-american-classics-dies-at-86.html) :(

[SzczerbiakManiac]

NYT linky no worky

[Kevy Baby]

Coaster Matt's Sidney Lumet (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/movies/sidney-lumet-director-of-american-classics-dies-at-86.html) link? Worked fine for me.

[Ghoulish Delight]

The NYT recently went behind a paywall, meaning you have to sign up for an account to read articles (it's free to sign up and you can read up to 20 articles a month for free).

[Moonliner]

The caps start the playoffs against the NY Rangers on Wednesday. The local sports pundits seem to be taking a more cautious line this year. Perhaps they think they jinxed the team last year with all their gushing praise.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Does the thread you posted that in indicate your level of confidence?

[Moonliner]

Does the thread you posted that in indicate your level of confidence?

More my lack of sleep.

[Stan4dSteph]

RIP Grete Waitz (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/20/sports/othersports/20waitz.html?_r=1&ref=sports)

[SzczerbiakManiac]

NYT linky no worky

[Strangler Lewis]

Michael Sarrazin-handsome, vaguely brooding '70s actor.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Doctor Who's Sarah Jane Smith.
http://news-briefs.ew.com/2011/04/19/doctor-who-elisabeth-sladen-dies/

I'm bummed.

[Kevy Baby]

NYT linky no workyWorked fine for me. Talk to tech support.

[Alex]

Answer to linky no worky is probably the same as last time (not sure if this is a form of protest against the NYT semi-paywall or if SM didn't see it last time).

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I do not subscribe to the NYT, so links to their articles never work for me.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Doctor Who's Sarah Jane Smith (http://news-briefs.ew.com/2011/04/19/doctor-who-elisabeth-sladen-dies/)

I'm bummed.Me too. She was on the show when I first started watching Doctor Who way back in my childhood. I wish The Sarah Jane Chronicles had a longer run. :(

[Alex]

I do not subscribe to the NYT, so links to their articles never work for me.

You don't have to subscribe, you just have to have an account and be logged into it (to get the free number of page views).

But I guess the question is, if you know why the link doesn't work why do you keep telling us it doesn't work?

[Kevy Baby]

I don't subscribe to NYT nor have I ever signed up with them, yet the link works for me both at work (on a Windows box) and at home (on my Mac)

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Because there are thousands of other news sites people can link to which are not behind paywalls and/or don't require their readers to submit personal information about themselves.

But since this is apparently a nuisance, I'll stop mentioning it.

[Alex]

I'm not saying it is a nuisance. I just wanted to know why you do it so I know how to respond. If it was because you didn't know why it was happening then every once in a while saying so would be helpful.

But now that I know it is just a form of protest I know how to respond when you do it.

[Kevy Baby]

I'm just curious why I can get on and SM can't

Other than the fact that I am cool and he isn't

[CoasterMatt]

I never have any problems with the NYT links from here, either.

[Kevy Baby]

Only the cool kids can access the NYT site

[Stan4dSteph]

NYT linky no workyThat's the link I had. Feel free to Google her name. She was an amazing marathon runner who died from cancer at 57.

[Alex]

Tim Heatherington, who was nominated for an Oscar this last time around for his Afghanistan documentary Restropo was killed filming events in Libya (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/21/world/africa/21photographers.html?_r=1&hp).

Chris Hondros of Getty Images was also killed.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Me too. She was on the show when I first started watching Doctor Who way back in my childhood. I wish The Sarah Jane Chronicles had a longer run. :(

She was proof that a woman need not look 18 in order to be gorgeous. She looked good in the 70s, don't get me wrong, but on the Sarah Jane Chronicles, she was still hot. And she was what, 62?

[Strangler Lewis]

Madelyn Pugh (http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-madelyn-pugh-davis-20110422,0,4154147.story)

Co-creator of "The Mothers-In-Law." Also involved in various nonsense with Lucille Ball.

[Morrigoon]

The world's last typewriter factory (http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/04/last-typewriter-factory-in-the-world-shuts-its-doors/237838/)

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Kevin Jarre - Writer - Tombstone - Glory - The Mummy -
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0418883/

Famed screenwriter Kevin Jarre 's life was unexpectedly cut short after suffering heart failure on April 3 in Santa Monica, according to the Los Angeles Times. He was 56.

He leaves behind a legacy of major motion pictures.



Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b238126_rambo_glory_tombstone_screenwriter.html#ix zz1KbgiWZxx

[Not Afraid]

Apparently the news about Poly Styrene is true. I'm very sad.

[Snowflake]

Apparently Phoebe Snow died yesterday, as well.

[flippyshark]

Apparently the news about Poly Styrene is true. I'm very sad.

I still have my vinyl copy of "germ free adolescents." I didn't know she had joined the Hare Krishnas. Time to give the album another turn.

[Betty]

The world's last typewriter factory (http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/04/last-typewriter-factory-in-the-world-shuts-its-doors/237838/)

it's not actually. http://www.minyanville.com/dailyfeed/2011/04/25/contrary-to-reports-typewriter-industry/

[blueerica]

Osama. Probably should start a new thread.

[BarTopDancer]

Osama. Probably should start a new thread.

I already did.

[blueerica]

Yep, just noticed. :)

[Snowflake]

Jackie Cooper (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/child-star-superman-actor-jackie-185390), child star, character actor, played Jimmy Olson in 1940s era Superman movies, and a respected film/tv director.

[Snowflake]

Oops, he played Perry White, my bad!

[cirquelover]

I remember him from Our Gang. I wonder if he was the last to go

[flippyshark]

I remember him from Our Gang. I wonder if he was the last to go

Nope. Robert Blake (named Mickey Gubitosi in the Our Gang shorts) is still around.

Edited to add:

Actually, quite a few (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Gang_personnel#Surviving_cast_members) according to this (not quite updated) list.

[Not Afraid]

Awww, I didn't realize Bud McDonald had died in 2008. He was a good guy and very involved in a particular group I was in in LB.

[Moonliner]

Claude Choules


The last known survivor of the 70 million combatants from World War I, a British sailor who witnessed the surrender of the German fleet in 1918, has died at the age of 110.


*salute*

[Betty]

Wow. That man has seen a lot in his lifetime.

[Moonliner]

Wow. That man has seen a lot in his lifetime.

That's the second quote I've seen today I thought would make a good gravestone.

[Strangler Lewis]

It won't be much longer before we lose the last person from the 19th Century. When I was a kid, I'll tell you, that's how you knew somebody was old. None of this "born in the 1930s" makes you old nonsense.

[Not Afraid]

I always think it is amazing that all 4 of my grandparents (not GREAT grandparents) were born in the 1800s. My parents were both born in the 1920's.

[JWBear]

I always think it is amazing that all 4 of my grandparents (not GREAT grandparents) were born in the 1800s. My parents were both born in the 1920's.

Same here. I only knew one of my grand parents. One died before I was born, one when I was too young to remember her, and I never met one of my grandfathers even though he died when I was 7.

[Not Afraid]

Same here. I only knew one of my grand parents. One died before I was born, one when I was too young to remember her, and I never met one of my grandfathers even though he died when I was 7.

I only met one grandparent also - my grandfather who was 98 when he died. My Grandmother, his wife, I "met" her in her coffin. My Dad's parent were both gone before i was born.

[Strangler Lewis]

I never knew any of my grandparents, although my mother insists that her mother died when I was about two.

If my father's parents were alive, they'd be 134 and 124, and I'd still think the difference in their age was kind of weird.

[Morrigoon]

Blows my mind that my mom's already a great-grandparent. I only met one of my grandparents.

[katiesue]

I, through bizarre family stuff, had 6 grandparents plus two step-grandparents. My Mom's Dad and one of my Dad's Mom's both died before I was born. My Dad's other Mom just died last year, she was the last one living.

Three of my great-grandparents were alive when I was born. I clearly remember two of them. The third died shortly after I was born. I also had a great number of Great Aunts and Uncles. I've only got one of those left and she's got dementia and has been in a nursing home for quite some time. When we were younger we spent a lot of time with all the various Great Aunts/Uncles most of which were fun interesting people.

[cirquelover]

I was lucky and knew all my grandparents. My grandmother and her sister are still alive I knew one of my great grandmothers and quite a few great aunts.

My boy was the lucky one he had four sets of grandparents and two great grands. You know my boy was spoiled when he was born with that many grandparents all wanting to buy things!

[JWBear]

All my great-grandparents were dead when I was born. My mom has 15 great-grandchildren, and she has met all of them. A couple of them are now old enough to have children themselves!

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Playwright and director Arthur Laurents (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2011/05/arthur-laurents-gypsy-west-side-story.html). He wrote the books for and directed "West Side Story" and "Gypsy" and directed the original Broadway production of "La Cage aux Folles".

[Kevy Baby]

Due to longevity in my family, there exists a five-generation photo: My great grandmother, my grandfather, my father, my sister, and my nephew,


My parents were both born in the 1920's.Yeah, but you're old.

[Alex]

6 of 8 great-grandparents were alive when I was born. The last just died 4 years ago.

My first niece has two different five generation photos. My nephew could have as well but didn't live in the right part of the country.

It's not so much much that we live long as that we don't learn about contraception early enough.

[Ghoulish Delight]

'Macho Man' Randy Savage (http://scoop.today.com/_news/2011/05/20/6683740-macho-man-randy-savage-dies-in-car-accident)

:(

Solo car accident - according to his brother, he had a heart attack which is what caused him to lose control into a tree.

[Strangler Lewis]

And being led to the Pearly Gates by his manager, Miss Elizabeth . . .

[Alex]

Ah...now I want a Slim Jim.

[Strangler Lewis]

And being led to the Pearly Gates by his manager, Miss Elizabeth . . .

Indeed, it occurs to me that his obituary could note that he was preceded in death by both his valets, Miss Elizabeth and Sensational Sherri.

[Betty]

Pre-raptured?

[Kevy Baby]

I forgot to post this a couple of days ago: Harmon Killebrew, Baseball Great (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/baseball-great-killebrew-dead/rip/#)

[Strangler Lewis]

I forgot to post this a couple of days ago: Harmon Killebrew, Baseball Great (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/baseball-great-killebrew-dead/rip/#)

Back in 1969, I found him vaguely scary. He had a strange, long name, hit big home runs and was bald.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Spirit (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/05/spirit-no-more.html), NASA and JPL's Mars rover, one of the great triumphs of contemporary space exploration. After a lot of failure, the expectations were set low, so when it's said that it lasted 20 times longer than "expected", it perhaps overstates things a bit. But no matter the numbers, Spirit did the job of pushing past the demoralizing failures of the Climate Orbiter and Polar Lander, and the abject tragedy of the Columbia disaster. As someone with the word "engineering" in the name of my degree, I couldn't help but be captivated and vicariously thrilled by the success of the little guy. Bravo.

[cirquelover]

Jeff Conway from the tv show Taxi has passed away. That show spwned a lot of good actors.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Oh man, not Kenickie!

[CoasterMatt]

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGaRtqrlGy8) - Gil Scott-Heron RIP

[flippyshark]

It would already be tempting to snark at the death of Joseph Brooks, the guy who wrote that crappiest of 70s earworms, "You Light Up My Life." (It's already playing in your head right now, isn't it!) But, apparently, he was a serial "casting couch" rapist (www.nytimes.com/2011/05/24/arts/music/joseph-brooks-a-maker-of-jingles-songs-and-films-dies-at-73.html) into the bargain. (Side note - his son is currently charged with murder, making this an unusually troubled family.)

I recall going with my Mom to see the feature film of You Light Up My Life, starring Didi Conn of Grease fame. Brooks wrote and directed that piece of tripe, and followed it up with another movie in which he cast himself as the leading man. If Ever I See You Again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DDSs_rW8LA) was a huge bomb, and has never had a video release, but some thoughtful soul loaded these ten minutes of clips onto YouTube. It's got to be the most cringe-inducing thing I've seen in years.

So, my cynicism about sappy Adult Contemporary music has been very well placed!

[Stan4dSteph]

Dr. Jack Kevorkian (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/03/report-dr-jack-kevorkian-dead/) at age 83

[Capt Jack]

the end of an era. Ive always thought of him as good intentioned, but misunderstood by many with very loud voices. hopefully the idea of death with dignity and as a choice wont die with him.

[cirquelover]

James Arness from Gunsmoke; http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=650839&GT1=28103

[Cadaverous Pallor]

the end of an era. Ive always thought of him as good intentioned, but misunderstood by many with very loud voices. hopefully the idea of death with dignity and as a choice wont die with him.:snap:

[Alex]

Kevorkian and I parted paths when he changed from enabling sick people to commit suicide to killing them himself (I support suicide, but not physician assisted suicde where "assisted" is actually did it, that I think it better labeled "patient complicit homicide."

[blueerica]

My feelings on Kevorkian are mixed. On one hand, I agree with a right to die scenario. Quality of life is an important thing, and I believe that the media prominence of Kevorkian gave us an opportunity to discuss our beliefs en masse in a way I don't think we really did before. I know that my teenage self was challenged to consider all the options when he was making headlines.

On the other hand, I remember there being debate about a number of the physician assisted suicides being patients that he 'helped' less than 24 hours after first meeting them; many of whom, it was later learned, were not terminally ill.

So, my feelings are mixed on it. I think he got a little careless at the end, which is disappointing since I do think that some people just need a little help when they're suffering so much.

Anyway, RIP.

[Morrigoon]

Reading the article on him... he doesn't believe a patient should have to be terminal in order to be able to make that choice. So it's not surprising.

[CoasterMatt]

He went doing what he did best, dying.

[katiesue]

Wally Boag (http://d23.disney.go.com/articles/060311_NF_BN_WallyBoag.html)