View Full Version : Space is now Launching!
Not Afraid
07-01-2005, 12:03 PM
Space Mountain is open and sending guests to space. I'm going to swing by later and ride (the wait is 115 minutes at the moment and I'm sure it will be longer tonight). We'll post pics when we get home.:cool:
Cadaverous Pallor
07-01-2005, 12:04 PM
Hey, husband! Should we go tonight?
Monorail Man
07-01-2005, 12:05 PM
Times like this I wished I lived in Irvine.
Not Afraid
07-01-2005, 12:06 PM
We are meeting some people at the Hub at 6. But, there's a good chance we'll be there earlier.
Ghoulish Delight
07-01-2005, 12:25 PM
Hey, husband! Should we go tonight?Check thine email.
Moonliner
07-01-2005, 01:31 PM
Pictures! We want pictures, news, review, and comments as soon as you get back.
Have fun all you lucky Socal'ers. :)
scaeagles
07-01-2005, 02:12 PM
I am tempting to write many bad words because I left DL a scant 5 days ago.
I am also tempted to make another trip this summer.
€uroMeinke
07-01-2005, 02:16 PM
I am putting on my space suit and preparing for launch
Not Afraid
07-01-2005, 02:19 PM
We're leaving in just a bit and will ride Space first thing. I will have my PDA and can post from the GC or Uber has his trio if he joins us. I will do my best to be a good reporter.
Or, I'll just call someone to post for me.
Gn2Dlnd
07-01-2005, 02:23 PM
ThinKrisps will be arriving around 4:30.
Oh, and I'm coming, too. :)
Cadaverous Pallor
07-01-2005, 02:24 PM
Hmm, perhaps we need to call the Mousepod hotline afterward as well?
For all those you on the edge of their seats - yes, GD and I are going. Cell you then, NA. :cool:
Not Afraid
07-01-2005, 02:25 PM
Yes, calling the MP Hotline is a given. He'll want to hear, even though he's on a sunny island in the sea.
CoasterMatt
07-01-2005, 08:10 PM
I rode Mummy too many times today... I'll ride Space on Sunday...
wendybeth
07-01-2005, 08:16 PM
I am tempting to write many bad words because I left DL a scant 5 days ago.
I am also tempted to make another trip this summer.
Were I not going in two weeks, I would also be spewing French-type invectives at them.
Sigh -- I will have to wait until Winter. Still, I am looking forward to reading the trip reports.
Not Afraid
07-02-2005, 01:58 AM
O. M. G.!
Not only does Space look great, but it is smooth and filled with stars. The sound track is fun and tres swanky! We rode it twice tonight. We had a big group of people both times. There were LoT people and MC people all excited together. It was amazing!
However, the second time we rode there were 13 of us. Twelve of us all went in one "train" (really 2 attached rockets). Poor Jim was left to ride - ALL ALONE - in an entire train. We got to the point where they send us to the right to go up the lift but we veered to the left instead. WTF???????
Our last look at Jim, he was sitting in the front row of his train, all alone, holding his refillable coffee cup high to cheer us.
Well, we were told that our sound wasn't working so they had to take us out. HA! So, they literally PUSHED the train backstage and had us get out, row by row. Of course we were hooting and hollering the whole time, snapping photos along the way. Even the maintenance men were amused by all of our joyful noise.
We were taken back out through a CM-only entrance and put in place for another train. Right before loading, they decided we shouldn't all be on one train and split us up. Sound problems, my foot!
So, we sunk a rocket tonight! Who knew it could be done? But, leave it to this group to accomplish something of this sort.
Gn2Dlnd
07-02-2005, 02:11 AM
I did enjoy my own private rocket!
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
07-02-2005, 03:09 AM
All I can say is WOW!!
wendybeth
07-02-2005, 07:37 AM
Way to break Space Mountain, guys. Two years in rehab, and at gets sunk by a group of Disney Geeks. :rolleyes:;)
When do we get to see the pics?:D
blueerica
07-02-2005, 08:42 AM
I am so totally jealous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe I'll have to swing by tonight!!!
GAH!
<-- JEALOUS!
Sounds like you guys had a great time! I am soooo looking forward to checking it out.
BarTopDancer
07-02-2005, 09:07 AM
It's SO FREEKIN COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO PRETTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SO very PRETTYFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CoasterMatt
07-02-2005, 09:13 AM
What, you haven't been taken off to the Fat Train unload before?
Cadaverous Pallor
07-02-2005, 12:01 PM
Nope, never done the fat left turn before. It was quite a treat!
We took plenty of pics but posting them will have to wait a day or so.
As for the ride itself...I was a 6 year old all over again. Truly a blast, and well worth a wait. I even enjoyed the music! To me it's a whole different feel on an old favorite.
There's obviously a lot of stuff in there that they aren't lighting up yet...can't wait for Rockit!
SusieP.
07-02-2005, 12:09 PM
This is motivating me to make an early morning run up there tomorrow! Cool!
SusieP.
07-02-2005, 12:11 PM
What, you haven't been taken off to the Fat Train unload before?
Yep, your train weighed too much. Nice of them to be sensitive about it though. ;) This has happened to me before, when loaded with another party of very, very large folks in the front. They split us all up, after pulling us off to the left.
Don't break it before I get a chance to ride it!
€uroMeinke
07-02-2005, 01:01 PM
Woohoo Space Mountain is back!
http://photos.xenarchy.com/albums/userpics/10001/normal_12%20-%20DL-05%20SMS077.jpg
I'm particularly pleased about some of the tributes, particularly this one:
http://photos.xenarchy.com/albums/userpics/10001/normal_08%20-%20With%20Flash.jpg
You can see the rest of my photos here (http://photos.xenarchy.com/thumbnails.php?album=15&page=1&sort=na)
Monorail Man
07-02-2005, 02:50 PM
Wow, look how filthy those drop ceiling tiles are:
http://photos.xenarchy.com/displayimage.php?album=15&pos=13
;)
Ghoulish Delight
07-02-2005, 02:50 PM
Woohoo!
It will take me a long time to get over the loss of the roaring of the coaster, that added so much to the ride for me. But otherwise, I'm very very pleased. Although with the limited scope of the changes, they aren't going to be fooling anyone by calling this a "new attraction".
BarTopDancer
07-02-2005, 04:09 PM
Photos more photos (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hb_tigger_fan/album?.dir=/801c)
cstephens
07-02-2005, 04:12 PM
A friend and I got there around 4pm on Friday. The posted wait time was 60 minutes, but we got through in about 45. The line seemed to move pretty well. I love Space. I miss Space. It was so cool to be able to ride it again. I'm not thrilled about the new song (it sounds kinda tongue-in-cheek "Mission Impossible"), but maybe it's just a matter of getting used to new music. I was always one of those who preferred Space without music because I like to hear the roar of a coaster, but the buildup on this is pretty cool, all the launch talk stuff as you're making your way to the top. I love the new effects at the end. When we got back to the loading station, we kept waiting for them to release the lap bar, but as we got moved further up, it never released. I started chanting "ride through, ride through", mostly kidding. Well, ask and you shall receive. They ended up letting us go on again, so we got two rides for the price of one! Woo hoo! That was awesome.
A little while later, my husband joined us, so we got in line again, around 6pm. It took a while longer this time because the ride went down twice while we were in line. Some people got out of line every time it was announced that it was down, but we stayed. When we finally got through the line after it came up again, my husband and I ended up getting front row! That was awesome. It's been so long since I was even in the front row. Even though I refer to it as the biggest blow dryer, I forget how much wind you actually get in your face.
I love having Space back up!
Not Afraid
07-02-2005, 04:21 PM
Wow, look how filthy those drop ceiling tiles are:
http://photos.xenarchy.com/displayimage.php?album=15&pos=13
;)
You should've seen the sink! Grease relief city! But, this is a working area, not a show area. I'm ok with it dirty.
NirvanaMan
07-03-2005, 12:23 PM
We rode it around 5 pm or so on Friday as well. Quite a long wait, about an hour, but we decided to do it anyway. We were roasting in the sun on the roof. Maybe they should put up some sort of shade up there to keep people cool on those hot days like Friday.
Anyway, the que was cool, I like the space station feel. I also caught that Hench reference. Was cool. Definitely felt like you were walking through a space station and I know cause I have been in many. No idea what it looked like before it went down so I can't really compare it to the previous DL version. The loading area looked really cool. Loved the air gates and the funky lighting effects in the different clear plastics. The ride broke down while we were in there so they turned all the lights on for about 15 minutes. But luckily, it got going again. I don't know what effects were new or what not, but I was not particularly impressed with any of them. The amount of stars were cool but the ride wasn't as impressive as SM in DL Paris. Still, it was a fun coaster, prolly better than the florida one and it is a definite nice addition. It's weird to have things to do in tomorrowland.
Also checked out the ASIMO exhibit. While a bit campy and a ginormous commercial for Honda, the robot was impressive none-the-less. Also had some fun doing the VMK in park quests. Not very challenging but fun in a mini mouseadventure sort of way.
MickeyD
07-03-2005, 07:02 PM
Napsto called me on Friday night and told me to meet him at Burbank High at 9:30pm to go ride...we hopped in his truck at 9:30 on the dot, and were walking up the ramp to Space at 10:25pm.
I liked the queue, I loved the way the outside of the mountain looked...at some point in the queue we saw the group...I would have loved to hang back and ride with you guys (especially after reading about the sunk rocket) but Napsto is antisocial under the best conditions and was especially so on Friday. Bummer for me, but oh well.
I was thrilled that they didn't change all that much inside the mountain, but it felt a bit slow to me (although that could just have to do with what row we were in.) The music cut out on us...and it was so quiet...it was weird. I look forward to riding with the music on the whole time. I did find the camera flashes at the end to be painfully blinding. All in all, SM was always my favorite ride, and I'm just pretty damn happy that it's open again.
At first, Napsto was not happy with it. I guess he had seen a bunch of commercials that I've not seen for the "new" Space Mountain, so he was expecting more. But he did call me early the next morning and say that the more he thinks about it, the more he liked it after all...
Moonliner
07-03-2005, 07:25 PM
Wern't there rumors of diffrent day and night tracks (as in music). Has anyone noticed a diffrence yet?
Not Afraid
07-03-2005, 07:33 PM
I don't think they are going to use the night track (and turn it into ROCKIT MOUNTAIN) until later in the year. However, they were testing Rockit Mt during the CM previews, so who knows.
CoasterMatt
07-04-2005, 06:48 AM
Yesterday (Sunday), my Monkey and I headed to the park - we got 10 rides in on Space, including one trip to the side track (we had overshot, and were gonna get to re-ride, but a little boy in our rocket didn't want to ride again). It was nice to see Space's PLC/Allen-Bradley again, and the CM seemed a lil weirded out when I was pointing out what a couple of displays indicated. :)
Despite all our rides on Space, we managed to do quite a bit else - including a run over to DCA, for a nearly walkon ride at Tower of Terror.
Gn2Dlnd
07-04-2005, 01:11 PM
Space's PLC/Allen-Bradley
What's a PLC/Allen-Bradley?
DisneyFan25863
07-04-2005, 01:17 PM
What's a PLC/Allen-Bradley?
From what google can tell me, its some sort of industrial control panel...
wendybeth
07-04-2005, 01:55 PM
When it comes to coasters, Matt is our Geeko Supremo.:snap:
UvaGirl
07-04-2005, 02:27 PM
I have never been on Space:eek: Roll on November!:D
Chernabog
07-04-2005, 07:03 PM
I went yesterday with Greg to ride Space and ran into Mara, Mono Blue, Matt 'N Rose, Darkbeer and Ms. Darkbeer (dang I suck on names) in line! Woo what a ride. First time we rode in the back and second time in the front. Space is now WAY better in the front, since the track is so dark and that lift tunnel is soooooo cool now.
As far as RockIt Mountain is concerned, Greg shined a high beam light from his cell phone at the huuuuuuge asteroid that is now sitting where the orange golf ball used to be. (The lights are normally off on the asteroid). Al said that the RockIt mountain thing is supposed to be more "psychedelic", for whatever its worth.
As fun as it is to make goofy faces for the camera at the end, I wish it wasn't so incredibly blinding that the part where it seems like you go backwards appears half-assed. But it is still cool.
My vote: Two thumbs up. Fine summer fun.
(Also, as CoasterMatt noted above... so wierd how Dland was relatively crowded (45-60 min waits for Space).... and ToT was literally walk on. Oh ok, so we waited 2.5 seconds for the guy to show us where the library was.)
CoasterMatt
07-04-2005, 08:31 PM
From Dave Althoff Jr's Ride Technology pages
The PLC is a special-purpose computer which simply takes real-world signals, makes decisions based on those signals, and produces output signals based on those decisions. In its most basic form, a PLC program operates in exactly the same way as relay logic. But the PLC is more flexible than a bank of relays. For instance, a PLC can easily be equipped with a switch to count brake fins as a train goes by so that it "knows" all the cars are accounted for. It can count lap bar release pedals so that it can detect a bar left open. It can be connected to an anemometer to measure the wind speed and set brake pressures accordingly. The PLC can even detect train speed at various points on the course and monitor the ride's performance. These days, most roller coasters use PLCs to control the block system, and the rule remains exactly the same as always: No more than one train may occupy any block on the ride at any time. The difference is that the PLC has the flexibility...because it is programmable and because it can do advanced processing on its inputs...to also automate and optimize other functions on the ride, and to monitor the ride's critical systems. The PLC has made ride controls idiot-resistant, and simplified the process of diagnosing system faults.
The Allen Bradley unit is a human interface for the PLC - handy for keeping logs of incidents/incursions/downtimes/resets... that sorta thing.
Kevy Baby
07-04-2005, 11:43 PM
The PLC has made ride controls idiot-resistant...Never underestimate the power of an idiot!
Ghoulish Delight
07-05-2005, 08:21 AM
As far as RockIt Mountain is concerned, Greg shined a high beam light from his cell phone at the huuuuuuge asteroid that is now sitting where the orange golf ball used to be. (The lights are normally off on the asteroid). Al said that the RockIt mountain thing is supposed to be more "psychedelic", for whatever its worth.Yeah, I noticed that there was something suspciously hulking and dark in the middle of things. Also, there are clearly a few arches that straddle the track that seem like they will be lit for Rock-it Mountain.
Saw an ad for Space at the movie theater yesterday. Dangerously close to false advertising, if you ask me. The imagery they showed on that ad has NOTHING to do with what they actually did to the ride. If they keep that up, as well as the "new attraction" crap, I predict they will be fielding a lot of complaints from many very underwhelmed visitors.
Chernabog
07-05-2005, 02:40 PM
Saw an ad for Space at the movie theater yesterday. Dangerously close to false advertising, if you ask me.
Out of curiousity, what movie/theatre chain was it attached to?
What did they show in the commercial?
Hyping RockIt Mountain is one thing but hyping Space Mountain will be a major misstep. Most people are not nutty Disney freaks who go 30+ times a year like us. Most people didn't even know it was closed or anything and won't be blown away by the "new" space. I mean, even the family that goes once a year or so won't be that thrilled. Probably they came last year and went "oh darn, space is being renovated" and this year, whee, it's open. Unlike us, who have been 60 times since then.
Ghoulish Delight
07-05-2005, 02:45 PM
It was a Pacific theater. The imagery they showed, while obvious to anyone with at least a couple brain cells that it was not actual ride footage, implied large-scale changes to the visual effects of the ride. Things like firey graphic projection looking stuff. Hard to descibe, because it was very abstract, but, especially if someone already knows the ride, it made it seem like a LOT more was added than the few minor tweaks they did. Honestly, judging from what I could see of the darkened structures-to-be-used-later, I doubt that even RockIt Mountain will look anything like what they showed.
Ghoulish Delight
07-05-2005, 09:40 PM
Finally uploaded our photos from the day.
http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4201551&a=31816810&f=
Notice a few things:
* The impromptu flyover, accompanied (thanks to NA ) by the requisite Flight of the Valkyeries
* The seemingly stripped, or painted, or primed submarine inside the cave
* The ever so important gallon jug of vinegar backstage at Space Mountain.
surfinmuse
07-05-2005, 09:56 PM
Man, that CU of "ONE TON" was just inexplicably funny... after I've read accounts of you guys and that ride whose "audio" was not uh... balanced.
Not Afraid
07-05-2005, 10:54 PM
Nice pics of Gus Gus and €'s asses.
CoasterMatt
07-06-2005, 08:44 PM
Was the ad that you saw this (http://members.dslextreme.com/users/coastermatt/images/SpacePromo.wmv) one?
Nice bits of Mission: Space (you can even see a few shots with 4 people across with OTSRs)
Bits of Paris's Space Mountain: Mission Deux
and a TINY smidgen of pseudo DL Space Mountain...
If that ad was what I was expecting on riding Space Mountain now, I'd be pretty upset...
Ghoulish Delight
07-06-2005, 09:05 PM
Yup, that's the one. I'd liken it to showing the bounce room from Tokyo in an ad for our Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh.
DisneyDaniel
07-06-2005, 09:55 PM
Was the ad that you saw this (http://members.dslextreme.com/users/coastermatt/images/SpacePromo.wmv) one?
Nice bits of Mission: Space (you can even see a few shots with 4 people across with OTSRs) Bits of Paris's Space Mountain: Mission Deux
and a TINY smidgen of pseudo DL Space Mountain... If that ad was what I was expecting on riding Space Mountain now, I'd be pretty upset...
OMG! That commercial is the most blatant example of false advertising I've seen in a very long time! "Hold on, breathe deep, find the end of the universe, no barriers." Yeah, right. :rolleyes:
The commercial shows asteroids exploding, debris and asteroid fields, volcanic mountains, rockets flying through smoke and gas, and a giant spaceship in the stars.
I loved the re-opened ride with its slight enhancements, as would most Disneyland fanatics, but that commercial is setting up Disneyland and poor Cast Members for an onslaught of complaints from Joe Public, or at the minimum will create major disappointment from guests. :mad:
Not Afraid
07-07-2005, 12:29 AM
OOOHHHHH! COOL! I haven't ridden THIS ride. When can we go?
Monorail Man
07-07-2005, 01:07 AM
Maybe, just maybe the Space that is launching now, is not the one that is launching on the 15th. After all, useally previews are to make sure that operations are working correctly. They may turn on more effects at the real opening. Just a thought. ;)
Chernabog
07-07-2005, 02:34 PM
Maybe, just maybe the Space that is launching now, is not the one that is launching on the 15th. After all, useally previews are to make sure that operations are working correctly. They may turn on more effects at the real opening. Just a thought. ;)
LOL yeah and maybe Jake Gyllenhaal will come to my office in an hour and bend me over my cubicle.
I was laughing my arse off at that commercial. I feel sorry for the Town Hall CMs. :p
Gn2Dlnd
07-08-2005, 04:34 PM
Jake just looked up at me and said to say thank you, but he's busy. :p
Monorail Man
07-10-2005, 12:05 AM
LOL yeah and maybe Jake Gyllenhaal will come to my office in an hour and bend me over my cubicle.
Maybe (http://www.micechat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=168756&postcount=124).... I was right! ;)
I am happy to report that I rode it for the first time tonight and after the first drop and turn to the left, there was a projection of an asteroid racing with the rocket. This was not the old "cookie", but a new effect that I have yet to see mentioned in other posts.
CoasterMatt
07-10-2005, 08:50 AM
Actually, we saw that projection on Sunday, the 3rd. It was really hit or miss (pun intended), and I don't think most people even realized what it was supposed to be.
In all honesty, I don't want to see a bunch of projections, because the more they do that, the more light in total is in the dome - the darkness is really fun...
BTW, wanna see the inside of "new" Space with the lights on? Check this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/Xcoaster/IM007260.jpg) out.
There are arches in there, just like Space Mountain at DLP has - as you can see in this (http://www.themeparkreview.com/eco/dlp/dlp13.jpg) picture.
Kevy Baby
07-10-2005, 01:19 PM
BTW, wanna see the inside of "new" Space with the lights on? Check this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v674/Xcoaster/IM007260.jpg) out.
There are arches in there, just like Space Mountain at DLP has - as you can see in this (http://www.themeparkreview.com/eco/dlp/dlp13.jpg) picture.Damn... you can't see the loop in either of those pictures
DisneyDaniel
07-10-2005, 11:08 PM
Maybe (http://www.micechat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=168756&postcount=124).... I was right! ;)
Yes, I've seen that asteroid. So far, that's nothing like the commerical showing asteroid fields--and your rocket maneuvering around them! Don't get me wrong, I love the darkened ride experience with stars everywhere and completely surrounding you during the ride; it's just that the commercial is deceiving.
Cadaverous Pallor
07-11-2005, 10:41 AM
Sorry MM, I saw that asteriod the first time I rode it. It's a cgen 3d asteriod. I yelled "cookie!" when I saw it, just for old times sake. :)
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