Geeze! What's Next DNA samples to enter the park?

[Moonliner]

I ran across a news article (http://www.local6.com/news/4724689/detail.html) today. It looks like WDW is now requiring everyone entering the park to submit to a fingerprint scan. Now how wrong is that? :mad:

[Ghoulish Delight]

Technically, not a fingerprint scan. It measures the shape and size of certain features of your finger, it doesn't actually check your fingerprint.

Not that it matters, but for accuracy's sake...

[Moonliner]

Thanks as always for that clarification.


And remember kids, if you think this type of hooey is, well hooey then keep your cards and letters (https://secure.disney.go.com/wdw/contact/contactUs?id=ContactUsPage) coming!

[scaeagles]

Can I ask what the problem is with that? I really don't understand....perhaps I am being ignorant. What's the difference between that and presenting an AP with your picture? Or showing a drivers license as ID? Or using a PIN number at an ATM? All it is is a method of identification required by a private enterprise and it is much more fraud proof than any other method.

[DisneyDaniel]

Similarly, SeaWorld San Diego started requiring annual passport holders to scan their entire palm each visit for more than a year now. A mechanism at each entrance turnstile scans the shape and formation of your palm. It's rather inconvenient, but this is also the same place where the annual passport is printed on cardstock, just like the regular one-day ticket. A "water"-themed park where you can and do get wet in several shows and rides should print annual passports on plastic, but I guess they can save more money this way. :rolleyes:

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Why do they need to do this for day guests? :confused:

[Moonliner]

Can I ask what the problem is with that? I really don't understand....perhaps I am being ignorant. What's the difference between that and presenting an AP with your picture? Or showing a drivers license as ID? Or using a PIN number at an ATM? All it is is a method of identification required by a private enterprise and it is much more fraud proof than any other method.

So when exactly does the insatiable desire for corporate collection of personal data become too much for you? Hair Samples, Iris scans, Saliva for DNA, Urine Samples? What right does a corporation have to this type of intrusion?

[dramaqueen]

I think it is meant to save money so they don't have to employ as many ticket takers. I think the plan is to have seperate turnstyles where AP's can just let themselves in basically.

I don't think it will work very well, IMO.

[Moonliner]

I think it is meant to save money so they don't have to employ as many ticket takers. I think the plan is to have seperate turnstyles where AP's can just let themselves in basically.

I don't think it will work very well, IMO.

This is for EVERYONE not just AP's (not that I like it any better for AP'ers)

[Ghoulish Delight]

Why do they need to do this for day guests? :confused:To prevent transfering of multi-day tickets and people getting around re-entry handstamps. "Gee, I just washed my hands after lunch."

[dramaqueen]

having seen all the stupidity in the parks on a day-to-day basis, I have serious doubts that people will be able to get this technology. No matter how many signs they put up, people will be confused. I really hope it doesn't catch in- in this case, I am counting on the stupidity of the human race to save us all ;)

[Moonliner]

Humm...

Hey kids it's 102 degrees here in the line to enter WDW, while we are waiting why don't you eat these penutbutter cups I've been carrying in my pocket.

Now please stick your fingers in the box... :D

[scaeagles]

So when exactly does the insatiable desire for corporate collection of personal data become too much for you? Hair Samples, Iris scans, Saliva for DNA, Urine Samples? What right does a corporation have to this type of intrusion?

Well, I suppose, being a private enterprise, they have the right to ask for whatever they want. Just as they can ask for it, I can refuse and not accept their services. You are not harmed in anyway. It is a choice. Protest it all you want, and maybe it will make a difference and they will change their policy.

Now, I am not one for intrusion, but bio-identification (or whatever the proper term is) is here to stay and will only spread. I fail to see how the info could be used against me unless it was misidentified to another person. The security of this type of data does scare me in the world of ID theft.

[Prudence]

I like to think that I'm fairly intelligent, and I still had trouble with the scans. Also, you have to stick your fingers all the way in, but without getting any other fingers in the way. I have short, stubby fingers and it's hard for me to do. It doesn't help when harried CMs bark "all the way in!" at me. I'm trying!

Basically it makes entry a rather cranky proposition. Won't ruin my visits, but it's not a good time.

[DisneyFan25863]

Yeah, I was a tad miffed about them also. Think of all the germs and stuff that are in those boxes. Wasn't a very pleasurable experience. I kept imagining the scene in Men in Black when he puts his fingers in and the machine erases his fingerprints :D

[TigerLily]

my last job had these. Once you get the hang of them they are easy to use. The one they had unlocked the door so we could enter. They also had alcohol wipes next to them so we could wipe off our hands afterwards. I'm not sure how effective they are. one guy put his hand in upside down and it worked. Also, if someone had a ring on for the original scan then sometimes it wouldn't work if they didn't wear the ring. I never had trouble with it, but if I was running late I would almost certainly get behind someone who could not get it to work...LOL..

my new job has a swipe on our badges that unlocks the doors, but I suppose theme parks want to make sure thier pass holders are not sharing their passes.

The only thing that bothers me about doing this at DL is getting behind people who can't get it tot work. That will be frustrating.

[Name]

So when exactly does the insatiable desire for corporate collection of personal data become too much for you? Hair Samples, Iris scans, Saliva for DNA, Urine Samples? For me it will be stool samples

[Matterhorn Fan]

Contrary to what the article states, that wasn't "phased in over the last 6 months." The day they had the new "simpler" :rolleyes: ticket system, everyone had to use the scanners. I don't see how that constitutes "phasing in."

I wouldn't count on human stupidity to make this go away--the stupid humans seem to have been figuring it out for 6 months now. Not that it's efficient, but Disney's probably saving a couple hundred dollars since presumably not so many tickets are on the grey market.

It's rather inconvenient, but this is also the same place where the annual passport is printed on cardstock, just like the regular one-day ticket. A "water"-themed park where you can and do get wet in several shows and rides should print annual passports on plastic, but I guess they can save more money this way.Tell that to WDW. Between Splash Mountain, Kali River Rapids, and afternoon thunderstorms, a WDW AP is just as likely to get soaked as a SW pass.

But the one-time-use Christmas Party tickets are plastic. Go figure.