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Moonliner
10-24-2005, 02:12 PM
Wow, it looks like Anne Rice has finally come up with something truly scary (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9785289/site/newsweek/)...

and just in time for Halloween! You go girl.

€uroMeinke
10-24-2005, 02:22 PM
Considering all the Catholic guilt that seemed to driop out of her recent novels, I'm hardly surprised. Historic Fiction was always her best, so prehaps her new work will be worth a read, but honestly I stopped reading her stuff years ago. It should be interesting to see how this all plays out in the media and between the various camps of vampire wannabes and poseur Christians.

mistyisjafo
10-24-2005, 03:10 PM
I read the first three Vampire books and lost interest once I dragged myself thru the third one. I'm not a big fan of her stuff. This new turn makes it even more so!

Gemini Cricket
10-24-2005, 03:17 PM
Will she still embrace her gay son (http://gaylife.about.com/cs/entertainment1/p/rice.htm)? Let's hope so.

:)

Moonliner
10-24-2005, 03:46 PM
Will she still embrace her gay son (http://gaylife.about.com/cs/entertainment1/p/rice.htm)? Let's hope so.

:)

I'm sure part of the reason for her conversion is the hope that she can cure her son.

Not Afraid
10-24-2005, 03:52 PM
I think what I find scary is that, in her time of challenges, she gave up her personal philosophies to return to the safety of the church. It is not uncommon in the lease, but is it really necessary?

I dread returning to the church of my roots and hope I never do.

scaeagles
10-24-2005, 03:56 PM
Interesting. Some changes are viewed as growth. Why is a change in her personal philosophy considered in this case to be a weakness? Perhaps it isn't a safety issue, but an issue of faith. This is scary? I fail to see why.

Not Afraid
10-24-2005, 04:03 PM
I look at it from a personal point of view. I just would not want to go back due to, well, anything. I know what she has done is not uncommon, it just frightens me that it was a possability - and that it might be for me. Scary.

€uroMeinke
10-24-2005, 04:03 PM
Personally, I don't think this is much of a departure, she spent a lot of time trying to reconcile the things of macabre myth and legend with her own religious beliefs - I think the last book I read even had a dialogue between Lestat and God.

What, I think will be most curious is Anne Rice could never let ambiguity rest, she had to explore and answer everything in excruciating detail. To me that seems the antitithesis of fiath. Her 3 volume account of Jesus' life may be her way of answering all her questions of God, explaining things in such a way that she can begin to believe them, but I suspect those in the religious community might take issue with her artistic license.

In the ned I think she might actually write a good story, but I doubt it'll do anything for anyone's spirituality, save her own.

Tito's Kitten
10-24-2005, 05:05 PM
I think it might be an interesting read.... I have not necessarily been a real fan of her work. I remember my sister LOVED her stuff. (She read to me Interview with a Vampire when I was about eight... You know just in case I had any questions...) I have read the Sleeping Beauty series but while religion does scare me a little (because of my experiences as a kid) I might read at least the first book.

Gemini Cricket
10-24-2005, 05:26 PM
Being a recovering Catholic, I think it's funny. (And I'm talking for myself here.) Seeing someone run to the CC for comfort is odd to me. The church is all about fear, something she's familiar with, so maybe it's a good fit for her. I'm not a big fan of hers and I'm even less a fan of her son (who is also an author, got famous because of his last name and writes tripe that's transparently controversial for The Advocate Magazine).
I feel for her with her close call with death, but her transformation has about the same validity in my eyes as Dennis Miller suddenly becoming a neo-con. Striving to cater to that bigger, popular group are we...?

€uroMeinke
10-24-2005, 06:16 PM
Eh, I'm not sure this is going to make her any more popular - She knows she may already be alienating her current fan base, and I'm sure there are a fair amount of folks on the devout side that view her with suspicion and fear her creation of a sexy jesus super hero.

Name
10-24-2005, 06:33 PM
sexier then Jesus Christ Superstar?

Morrigoon
10-25-2005, 12:17 PM
To be honest, I'm intrigued, and can almost guarantee you I'll read it.

Think about how risky it is to write anything as if God/Jesus is saying it. Anne has the skill to make the whole thing fascinating and to actually bring the characters to life. Say what you will about the modern-day behavior of WASPs, but Jesus himself is still a very compelling character when you remove the revivalist color-ed glasses from the story. I mean, think about it. He's a kid. But he's God. But he's still a kid. With parents. By his own/father's law, he must obey them. God obey humans. Think about it! He's trying to get the full human experience, yet all the while he knows he's God. And this good Jewish boy, raised knowing the circumstances of his birth grows up to be an angry itinerant street preacher who trashes a temple - the house of God... er, himself... er, his father...

I just think that Anne's talent will make this one hell of a good read. I remember how fascinating the "conversation with God" bit was in the other book. Totally fascinating to see how she'll breathe life into the characters.

Name
10-25-2005, 05:30 PM
Think about how risky it is to write anything as if God/Jesus is saying it. Noone paid any mind when Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John did it...........


And since they wrote those books many many many years after the events in them, it would be hard for anyone to tell me that they were not putting words in Jesus' mouth......

I don't know about anyone else, but I have a hard time remembering exactly what someone said, word for word, a few years after it was said.

€uroMeinke
10-25-2005, 07:47 PM
I remember how fascinating the "conversation with God" bit was in the other book. Totally fascinating to see how she'll breathe life into the characters.

And see, this was the exact moment I realized I was done with Anne Rice - heh, I'm begging to think you and I should pair up and do book and movie reviews ;)

Eliza Hodgkins 1812
10-26-2005, 12:16 PM
There were certain aspects of Memnoch the Devil I really liked. That was the last Rice book I read and enjoyed. But it was the darker aspects of Memnoch that fascinated me, I think.

Violin turned me off of Rice for good, I'm afraid. Perhaps that's treating her unfairly but my God that was awful.

Gemini Cricket
10-26-2005, 12:32 PM
I was turned off by her when she took back what she said about Tom Cruise being a bad choice for Lestat in a big newspaper article before the release of 'Interview with a Vampire'. Bleh. He WAS a bad choice. :D

Eliza Hodgkins 1812
10-26-2005, 01:10 PM
See, I thought he was a bad choice, then I saw the movie, and agreed with Rice. I thought he did a really good job.

Moonliner
10-26-2005, 02:44 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I have a hard time remembering exactly what someone said, word for word, a few years after it was said.

Really? I don't have that problem at all. I can recall exactly what was said months ago. groovy baby! (http://www.xenarchy.com/LoT/showpost.php?p=410&postcount=3)

Name
10-26-2005, 05:59 PM
ya, but can you remember anything I may have said verbally(not written or posted)?

Moonliner
10-26-2005, 06:04 PM
ya, but can you remember anything I may have said verbally(not written or posted)?

As a matter of fact I can remember every single word you have ever said in my presence :D

Name
10-26-2005, 06:42 PM
well, that would be about the same as the writer of the book of John, or so it is thought by many a bible scholar....... as many bible scholars don't think it was the actual apostle John that wrote John, but someone else many many many many many many many years later, like around 100 AD or somethin....

Morrigoon
10-26-2005, 08:49 PM
Noone paid any mind when Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John did it...........


And since they wrote those books many many many years after the events in them, it would be hard for anyone to tell me that they were not putting words in Jesus' mouth......

I don't know about anyone else, but I have a hard time remembering exactly what someone said, word for word, a few years after it was said.

Hey, I'm not saying I'll worship the book, just that it's likely to be a compelling narrative given the situation and the skill of the writer.

Name
10-26-2005, 09:20 PM
I was just verbalizing a stance on why I think it is absurd to be up in arms about the Ann Rice interpretation of Jesus speaking......

Not Afraid
10-26-2005, 09:39 PM
I was just verbalizing a stance on why I think it is absurd to be up in arms about the Ann Rice interpretation of Jesus spanking......

I need new contacts.

Morrigoon
10-27-2005, 08:28 AM
Who's up in arms? I think it'll be very compelling.

€uroMeinke
10-27-2005, 08:42 AM
I suspect a chapter in which Jesus explores his homosexulaity might rasie an eyebrow or two. Not that such a chapter is included, but based on AR's past works certainly not inconcievable.

Gemini Cricket
10-27-2005, 08:57 AM
I suspect a chapter in which Jesus explores his homosexulaity might rasie an eyebrow or two. Not that such a chapter is included, but based on AR's past works certainly not inconcievable.
Or you could just see/read the Terence McNally play 'Corpus Christi'.
:)