Self-awareness: do you and I agree about me? about you?

[LSPoorEeyorick]

The Johari Window (http://kevan.org/johari) is taking the blog world (or, at least my personal microcosm) by storm.

The Johari Window was invented by Joseph Luft and Harrington Ingram in the 1950s as a model for mapping personality awareness. By describing yourself from a fixed list of adjectives, then asking your friends and colleagues to describe you from the same list, a grid of overlap and difference can be built up.

I'd be interested in seeing how solid everyone's sense of self is. If you wish, start your own at the website listed above, and then paste your own personal Johari Window link in this thread.

Mine is here. (http://kevan.org/johari?name=lspooreeyorick)

[€uroMeinke]

Mine is here: http://kevan.org/johari?name=cemeinke

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Here I be
http://kevan.org/johari?name=bornieo

[Prudence]

urg. That's a little hard to do. I can't describe myself very objectively.

[Ghoulish Delight]

http://kevan.org/johari?name=GhoulishDelight

[Not Afraid]

http://kevan.org/johari?name=Not Affraid (http://kevan.org/johari?name=Not Affraid)


Mine. Yeah, I know. Typo.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

http://kevan.org/johari?name=cadaverous pallor

ETA: The link was wrong, should work now.

[NickO'Time]

http://kevan.org/johari?name=TicToc
Cool beans thought I would try this even though I don't know alot of you. :cool:

[€uroMeinke]

http://kevan.org/johari?name=TicToc
Cool beans thought I would try this even though I don't know alot of you. :cool:

That's okay we can make stuff up - Heidi damn you - you've created a monster!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Based on the results so far...y'all don't remember me when we first met. I'm a far different person with people I've just met.

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Based on the results so far...y'all don't remember me when we first met. I'm a far different person with people I've just met.

Eh, i was just being nice. :evil:

[NickO'Time]

That's okay we can make stuff up - Heidi damn you - you've created a monster!
Cool Beans!

[Kevy Baby]

Heidi damn you - you've created a monster!I'll say, we've managed to jam the whole site:
Site overloaded.

Try again later.


Mine. Yeah, I know. Typo.Somehow, I am not surprised by this.

[scaeagles]

http://kevan.org/johari?name=Not Affraid (http://kevan.org/johari?name=Not Affraid)


Mine. Yeah, I know. Typo.

Yep. I expected to see "name=insane cat lady".

[Not Afraid]

Damn! I missed my chance!

[LSPoorEeyorick]

It seems to be working again, btw.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Nope, just tried. We broke it. ;)

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Heh, so far, everyone but me thinks I'm intelligent ;)

[Cadaverous Pallor]

http://kevan.org/johari?name=TicToc
Cool beans thought I would try this even though I don't know alot of you. :cool:Like € said, I made stuff up, and didn't match a single one of yours :D

Oh, and it's working again, btw

[Ghoulish Delight]

Aaaaaand it's down again.

[Gemini Cricket]

'Site overloaded'
Yeah, that kinda describes me.
:D

[Ponine]

Mine :
http://kevan.org/johari?name=Ponine

site is working just fine now... fyi

[Not Afraid]

Not working.

[Stan4dSteph]

It comes and goes. I got on at different times today.

[€uroMeinke]

I guess we know who scored higher for patience...

[Stan4dSteph]

I guess we know who scored higher for patience...:D Well so far you're the only one who has done mine.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

:D Well so far you're the only one who has done mine.That's because you didn't post yours!

[Not Afraid]

Interesting results. Not sure I buy this completely but, on a simplistic level, it is interesting.

[€uroMeinke]

I think what it does it tells you how other's view you - the more people who respond, the more trends you see in the scores.

If those are at odds with the way you see yourself, it could be a bit revalatory.

I am curious about how the descriptors were chosen, many seem similar to me, and some are missing altogether.

So far I've learned that above everything else, people seem to think I'm smart. So I guess that's cool, though I probably value some of the other traits more.

[wendybeth]

Okay- here's mine:http://kevan.org/johari?name=Wendybeth

I managed to answer one person's, then the site locked up.

[Alex]

I did it in another venue. Without also having negative attributes on the list it seems pretty one sided (there's a big difference between "you're smart" and "you're a prick about being smart"), though more interesting than most of these are that go around the internet.

[blueerica]

However, some words may have a negative implication to depending the reader and the writer, and what is understood and perhaps unsaid between them. Someone who's always considered themselves, foward, agressive, cutting-edge, etc... Might be offended if someone didn't think along those lines. There's a positive spin and a negative to just about every attribute.

Connotations, baby...

[blueerica]

Here's me:

http://kevan.org/johari?name=blueerica

[Prudence]

oh fine. i'm such a follower.

http://kevan.org/johari?name=ethelberga

[Gemini Cricket]

Here's mine:

http://kevan.org/johari?name=Gemini Cricket

:)

[Cadaverous Pallor]

There are very few negative ones - nervous, self-conscious - but would anyone actually pick those for a friend. Telling someone they're self-conscious may not be the best idea for a self-conscious person ;)

This "test" is limited but definitely fun anyway.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I love reading the varied responses! Especially in seeing how people view GD and I in comparison.

Gemini Cricket thinks I'm the sensible and dignified of the two - riiiight. ;)

[Gemini Cricket]

Gemini Cricket thinks I'm the sensible and dignified of the two - riiiight. ;)
It's the rebellious goatee.
:D

[tracilicious]

Me too, me too!

http://kevan.org/johari?name=tracilicious (http://kevan.org/johari?name=tracilicious)

[Moonliner]

I'm late to the party as always...

http://kevan.org/johari?name=Moonliner

[lizziebith]

Finally, the site wasn't overloaded, so here's mine: Lizzie's Johari (http://kevan.org/johari?name=lizziebith)

[Prudence]

Sometime after we've all responded to all we're going to, I'd be interested in hearing what really surprised people. But not before, because I don't want to skew results.

[scaeagles]

Hmmm....why don't I think anyone will pick "warm" or "loving" for me????

http://kevan.org/johari?name=scaeagles

[wendybeth]

Hmmm....why don't I think anyone will pick "warm" or "loving" for me????

http://kevan.org/johari?name=scaeagles

I really could have had fun with this.......but I behaved myself. Don't get too used to it.;)

[scaeagles]

I behaved on yours, too, so I need to mess with someone. Where are Sac and MBC????

[wendybeth]

Lol!!! I just saw that- ty!

Yeah, where are those two at, anyway????

[€uroMeinke]

There are very few negative ones - nervous, self-conscious - but would anyone actually pick those for a friend. Telling someone they're self-conscious may not be the best idea for a self-conscious person ;)


Hmmm, I've answered self-conscious for the people I thought it applied - but I didn't necessarily see it as a negative. But we all bring our values to the traits at hand. Personally, I was annoyed that words like Artistic, talented, and creative were missing from the list.

I think what's also interesting it to see what remains in the "unknown" quadrant, While I may be intelligent, clever, wity, ingenious, etc - I seem to be missing out on the loving, caring giving, which might be a subtle way of spelling out Alex's "Smart/Prick" archtype.

[Gemini Cricket]

Leo says I am caring. I'm all choked up. I need a moment...
:D

[Gemini Cricket]

You know, I'm such a dinglecheese. I didn't see that you could pick six. I only picked 5 for everyone. I apologize.
D'oh!
:D

[€uroMeinke]

You know, I'm such a dinglecheese. I didn't see that you could pick six. I only picked 5 for everyone. I apologize.
D'oh!
:D

You know, I did the same thing myself on the first few - including my own. Oh well, I'm sure our peers made up for our oversights.

[scaeagles]

Leo says I am caring. I'm all choked up. I need a moment...
:D

It was the closest thing they had to "bleeding heart liberal".:)

[wendybeth]

'Dinglecheese'- lol! I don't think I've heard that one before....

Scaeagles, in all honesty you could be described as warm: when you talk of your family. In politics, you be the Iceman.;)

[MickeyLumbo]

you broke it again, wenchybeth;)

[wendybeth]

you broke it again, wenchybeth;)

Lol- GC comes up with some good ones, doesn't he?

Sign on already, Mickey!!

[MickeyLumbo]

Lol- GC comes up with some good ones, doesn't he?

Sign on already, Mickey!!

yes, he does. i thought wenchybreath was good too! LOL

i'm here...lurking in the shadows of safety.:cool:

[Kevy Baby]

My turn (http://kevan.org/johari?name=Kevy%20Baby)

[Ghoulish Delight]

My turn (http://kevan.org/johari?name=Kevy%20Baby)
I tried to pick "dignified" and "mature"...I've never seen a browser laugh before.

[lizziebith]

Wow! Most of the traits I picked were unknown to others... Guess I need to get out more! :D

I really liked the ones that were picked though...hmmmn. Time to look the old self over a bit, methinks.

I was wondering about the lack of "negatives" too, but now that I think about it...why? I mean, would I need some of those terms to describe myself? Gosh, I guess so. I'm thinking of stuff like: self-absorbed, anti-social, dishonest, selfish, greedy, jealous. Not that I'd choose those in particular, but shouldn't they be there? (I might have chosen the first couple...;) )

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Ok, I guess I'm late to the party. I had a flat tire. :)

http://kevan.org/johari?name=motorboat cruiser

[Moonliner]

Now wait a second, how can my "blind spots" be: intelligent, knowledgeable and observant

I'm blind to how observent I am? It seems a bit of a contradiction. :)


Plus the chart forgot: Cute and Cuddly.

[Ponine]

Plus the chart forgot: Cute and Cuddly.
I totally agree!!!

[scaeagles]

Now wait a second, how can my "blind spots" be: ..... observant

I'm blind to how observent I am? It seems a bit of a contradiction. :)


I'm experiencing the same thing. Although I showed my wife that I picked observant and she laughed pretty hard. I suspect she wouldn't have picked that for me.

[blueerica]

http://kevan.org/nohari?name=blueerica

The anti-johari...

Smoke the rats out of my cave!!!

[wendybeth]

Can't do it, Erica. I don't know your 'dark side', so I couldn't really find anything to hit on there.

Now, if Scaeagles wants to give it a shot....:evil:;)

[Not Afraid]

I'm so far behind!

[Matterhorn Fan]

Mark me down as late to and reluctant to join the party (is there an adjective on the list for that?): http://kevan.org/johari?name=matterhorn%20fan

[lizziebith]

Heh. I love the anti-Johari one: My Dark Side... (http://kevan.org/nohari.cgi?name=lizziebith)

EDIT: fixed link

[scaeagles]

Can't do it, Erica. I don't know your 'dark side', so I couldn't really find anything to hit on there.

Now, if Scaeagles wants to give it a shot....:evil:;)

Go for it!

Wow - do we want to mess with the dark side? Can we do this without hurting each others feelings? I'm brave enough to post mine, but I don't know if I'm brave enough to click on anothers.

scaeagles' dark side (http://kevan.org/nohari?name=scaeagles)

Also, I don't know if I would be qualified to post about such things with those I interact with on a message board here. Everyone here is pretty polite, with the occassional spat here and there.....I don't know how much of someones true "negative" self can come out here.

[lizziebith]

^ I think it's true that one's MB persona can be pretty, um, unreal. Still, I'm really doing this for myself, so I don't mind letting it all hang out. You folks have proven to be very trustworthy to me. Now, to click on your nohari-window, scaegles...I'm curious! :D

ETA: I did it. I'm just looking at the negative ones, not choosing descriptors (you can click on the link at the bottom to peek without playing). I'm interested in seeing how we view ourdarkselves; I don't think I know enough to choose words like that for any of you. Yet. Heh.

I see blueerica and I have a couple in common...

[Not Afraid]

Sure. Beat me up, Scotty.

http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Not Affraid (http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Not Affraid)

[Gemini Cricket]

I won't be showcasing anyone's dark side.
One's enemies do enough of that.

[scaeagles]

I won't be showcasing anyone's dark side.
One's enemies do enough of that.

Yeah - I can't do that either. If someone posts what they believe their dark side is, I'll certainly check it out, but I really don't see any words on there that would describe anyone posting here.

[lizziebith]

So true. I've known NA for years and I was really shocked at most of what she chose (there was one we shared that isn't so bad, but meh, I'm sure we both hate it). How cool is that, though? To know that our negative self-image is not what others see??

[€uroMeinke]

Here's my Darkside:

http://kevan.org/nohari?name=cemeinke

Though I was dissappointed that the antonym they chose for "religious" was "unethical" instead of "Blasphamous"

[lizziebith]

W00t! I share with Chris too!

Come to the dark side...we have cookies. :D

[Not Afraid]

And the cookies are Devilishly good! :evil:

[€uroMeinke]

uh oh - am I the only one to comment on people's nohari's?

[€uroMeinke]

That was some other Chris

Honest

[lizziebith]

what are you two doing online on V-day night???

[Not Afraid]

Insulting our spouses. ;)

[lizziebith]

That was some other Chris

Honest

Heh, BUSTED!! Honestly, ya did good. :blush:

[lizziebith]

Insulting our spouses. ;)

Oooooh, sounds sexay! I'd join in but mine is at a business meeting...

[Ghoulish Delight]

Here's mine to view... http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Greg

Feel free to respond, doesn't bother me (you bastards).

[€uroMeinke]

I had to whittle my original "bad" list down from 13

[lizziebith]

I'm starting to see a pattern here *takes notes*.

[Not Afraid]

THis is actually harder because once I get into a "groove" of characterizing a person I tend to stay in that same groove.

[€uroMeinke]

"so what did you do on Valentines Day?"

"Oh, I just went online systematically insulted all the people I love"

[lizziebith]

Oh, not insulted at all...luckily, even though stuff is showing up in my "blind spot," I'm pretty self-aware. Oh, but I guess less insecure than I've always believed, LOL!

I haven't mentioned this before, but I freaking LOVE the word "aloof." ALOOF ALOOF ALOOF! Man, that's a great word!

[€uroMeinke]

Heh "aloof" is a given since we're all part of this elitist clique ;)

My other favorite is "chaotic"

[lizziebith]

I belong to this other board that has a million smiles for almost every possible situation, but alas, "aloof" and "chaotic" are not among them. Sheesh I'd love to see those smilies!

[scaeagles]

The people brave enough to actually input on others have my respect. I originally thought that I could not fill in for another, but I am intrigued (and not offended in the least) by the responses of the two that have contributed.

Some words I can see even if I did not choose them myself. Others kind of made me laugh and wonder what I've done to make someone perceive me that way. I'm actually much more fascinated by this than the "positive" version. Because of that fascination I am wondering if I should do it for (to?) another.

[€uroMeinke]

Heh - you know I won't take offense

[Prudence]

I only get to choose 6? http://kevan.org/nohari?name=ethelberga

[Not Afraid]

Go ahead, Leo. What are we gonna do, stretch your sphincter?

[scaeagles]

MBC might take offense at you applying for the job he wants.

[€uroMeinke]

Hmmm, if you don't get anyone to comment - I wonder what they really think about you...

[LSPoorEeyorick]

I refuse to let my dark side out on this board.

:aloof:

[LSPoorEeyorick]

http://kevan.org/nohari?name=LSPoorEeyorick

[Capt Jack]

Go ahead, Leo. What are we gonna do, stretch your sphincter?

*capt jack runs from the room screaming*:eek:

[LSPoorEeyorick]

I had a hard time answering other peoples'! So much that I signed my name with something positive about each person. I don't like putting out negative mojo, it's not really my style. But I'm brave, and I'll accept what anybody has to say about me.

[Prudence]

Is it bad if I really *like* one of the negative attributes?

[scaeagles]

Hmmm, if you don't get anyone to comment - I wonder what they really think about you...

I could probably close my eyes and randomly pick words with as much accuracy as if I thought about them. It is far easier to pick the nice ones.

[Gemini Cricket]

It was the closest thing they had to "bleeding heart liberal".:)
I don't see that as a choice on the negative Nohari window, either. Us liberals must not be all bad.
:D

[scaeagles]

I don't see that as a choice on the negative Nohari window, either. Us liberals must not be all bad.
:D

That would be a funny thing - set these windows up with "republican good" and "republican bad" and also "democrat good" and democrat bad" words. That could be amusing.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Also, where is the "obsessive" descriptor? Surely that would have been the first one I'd have clicked for myself. There seemed to be a lot of missing pejorative examples I would call myself.

Also, past one or two of the "aloof"s and "loud"s, does anybody else have trouble coming up with negative traits for the people around them? It requires that you enter five, and I don't think I actually know five nohari descriptors for anybody here.

[Tramspotter]

http://kevan.org/johari?name=tramspotter
http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Tramspotter

[tracilicious]

Heh. I love the anti-Johari one: My Dark Side... (http://kevan.org/nohari.cgi?name=lizziebith)

EDIT: fixed link

Tee-hee, I'm sure none of the things I picked suit you, it was just too fun not to pick the worst ones!

[lizziebith]

Tee-hee, I'm sure none of the things I picked suit you, it was just too fun not to pick the worst ones!

"Violent" <------ that one truly gave me a giggle!

[tracilicious]

"Violent" <------ that one truly gave me a giggle!

That was my favorite one! I found myself unable to answer anyone's accurately. For most, I just haven't seen enough of their "bad" side to answer accurately, for a few, I probably could answer accurately, but honestly was afraid of offending. Here's mine. Answer honestly, I won't be mad!

http://kevan.org/nohari?name=tracilicious

[Cadaverous Pallor]

OMG, I can't wait to get home and do this nohari thing...the site is blocked at work.

I promise I won't be insulted :)

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Great. Now we crashed nohari.

[Matterhorn Fan]

I didn't know I was extroverted. This is definitely news.

[Not Afraid]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's those Aries traits that make you so much liike me.

[Matterhorn Fan]

I wanted to put "stubborn," but that wasn't a choice. It would have been the first thing I clicked.

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

BTW, Lisa, your Nohari comments refer to you "SPACE NAZI" mode. ;)

Mine:
http://kevan.org/nohari?name=bornieo

[Not Afraid]

BTW, Lisa, your Nohari comments refer to you "SPACE NAZI" mode. ;)


Oh yeah. You got that right. I'm sort of glad I don't do that very often. :eek:

[CoasterMatt]

I know, I'm a bit late to this party, but here's mine - http://kevan.org/johari?name=CoasterMatt

[Kevy Baby]

I can't believe you people think I'm silly. Wherever does that notion come from?!?

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

http://kevan.org/johari?name=Audra+Rosemary

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Well, everyone must love me, because my nohari has only 1 contributor! Come'on some one hate me!!! ;)

[wendybeth]

I can't, Bornieo- not even as a joke! I know, I just tried. I got stuck on 'needy', and that's as far as I could go....:D

Gotta stop being so sweet, dear.

[€uroMeinke]

Well, everyone must love me, because my nohari has only 1 contributor! Come'on some one hate me!!! ;)

Eh, I only got two responses - I figured I'd at least get some retaliatory comments. I guess I have to work on my badness level

[Prudence]

It's actually kind of fun to see how different groups of people respond. Right now mine are LoT folks compared with Cit+ people from way back. I think the nohari one is the most interesting, because the Cit folks have way more dirt on me.:D

[scaeagles]

Alright Lisa and Chris....I did your nohari. Happy now????

I'll go slam on other people later today. :)

[€uroMeinke]

Alright Lisa and Chris....I did your nohari. Happy now????

I'll go slam on other people later today. :)

Yea!

[Ponine]

Well, everyone must love me, because my nohari has only 1 contributor! Come'on some one hate me!!! ;)
golly, I've only even been in your presence for like.. five minutes... I cant hate you.
And "TALL" isnt on the chart!

[scaeagles]

I find what has been posted about me to be very interesting.

In the Johari, there have been 13 respondants, and 30 attributes listed. Not one of those attributes is above 50%, and only 2 are above 30%. I wonder what that means.

In the Nohari, I have only 3 respondants, with 13 attributes listed. Only two are selected more than once, and one of them really amused me. Dispassionate? I would never, ever describe myself as dispassionate. The other listed twice - boastful - well, I can certainly understand that being selected.

And by the way, I believe I have now done both johari and nohari for everyone with a link posted here. If I have missed anyone, I apologize. Let me know if I missed you and I'll get to it. An I really do want nohari responses. I find them to be really interesting.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Me thinks I don't know myself very well, and that you people are too nice.

Although, self-concious seems to be tried and true. "Complex" is rather surprising, but it's making me grin.

I hope to get to everyone's eventually. But I've been working between 10 - 13 hours a day for the past couple of weeks, so it may be a while...

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Grr, I keep forgetting to get caught up on this at home. Don't worry, I'll get around to bashing everyone ;)

[Cadaverous Pallor]

While I'm working on beating others up (the library computers apparently are ok with me doing this in public) I invite you to beat me up. http://kevan.org/nohari?name=cadaverouspallor

[Tramspotter]

Even if you even only know me as an aquantaince or enemy please fill mine out positive and negative I really could use the info to check my preceptions this kindof isn't a game or curiosity right now.

Added::: (was going to pankake as that would make most fearfull to post... But it's honest and I trust most here anyhow really don't worry I am asking for and can more than take it. (after what I did to myself johari-smohari nohari-notatallharry. Heh ))

http://kevan.org/johari?name=tramspotter
http://kevan.org/nohari?name=Tramspotter

[MickeyLumbo]

Grr, I keep forgetting to get caught up on this at home. Don't worry, I'll get around to bashing everyone ;)

i have decided to stop trying to participate as each time i visit the site it is down. sounded interesting, but, i have less free time.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Psst everyone....site is working.....for now....don't tell too many friends!

[scaeagles]

There' a lot of people around here that need to get crackin' on this.

Here I was happily going about my business, having filed in the back of my mind the johari/nohari windows, and then CP has to resurrect it.

Well, since she has and only 4 people have filled in my nohari, get to it, people!