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Alex
04-12-2006, 09:38 AM
You can (or at least could once up a time) see something similar with U.S. and Canada flags at the Blaine crossing into Canada (where you'd cross if you were driving from Seattle to Vancouver, B.C.).

Gemini Cricket
04-12-2006, 09:46 AM
When I see stuff like that, I think about how someone had to put up their gigantic flag first. Then the other responded not to be upstaged. I also think about how they must have had meetings on each side to decide how big the flag was going to be, how tall the pole should be, who was going to supply the rope to hoist it, who was going to pour the cement at the base etc. All done with a gigantic cost involved.
:D

innerSpaceman
04-12-2006, 11:03 AM
I have to laugh at the thought of building a 2,000 mile long wall, in this day and age. Ya know, without slaves and general anachronism.

I'm all for border control, too. And for the sun rising in the damn West for a change.

It's a 2,000 mile-long border to an economically devasted portion of the hemisphere. Harder though it might seem than erecting a King Kong Wall, changes MUST be made to keep those people solvent in their home countries. Nothing else is going to work. You can't stop immigration with force.

Even if you were willing to kill everyone coming across the border, you'd need 846,000 men with rifles to man the Kong Wall 24/7. Pulease.

BarTopDancer
04-12-2006, 11:08 AM
All done with a gigantic cost involved.:D

Tax dollars at work.

Gemini Cricket
04-12-2006, 11:11 AM
iSm said 'erect'.
:D

Alex
04-12-2006, 11:13 AM
Harder though it might seem than erecting a King Kong Wall, changes MUST be made to keep those people solvent in their home countries. Nothing else is going to work. You can't stop immigration with force.

I agree. I don't really think building a wall would be all that difficult but it isn't going to solve the problem that creates the desire for the wall.

We need to make legal immigration more appealing than illegal immigration. And we need to encourage people to prefer staying where they are. Alternatively, we create a fund so that each mont every resident of Belize is given $2,000. Then all the Meixcans will illegally immigrate to Belize.

The Shadoe
04-13-2006, 08:51 AM
Still, a wall is better than nothing. Having nothing there is almost analogous to a welcome mat.

If you're climbing over a wall or somehow getting past it, at least it's a strong reminder that you aren't wanted on the other side of it. And it may serve to deter some people wanting to cross depending on how it is built.

I have to ask why building a wall is a general anachronism? Maybe if you are of the belief that we should all be interconnected; who cares about nations? We're all citizens of the world!

Pshah. I don't buy that for a minute.

scaeagles
04-13-2006, 09:01 AM
We're not talking about an 8 foot cinderblock wall or a chain link fence here, though. We're talking high tech.

From what i've read, the fence would include an underground barrier of rods shoved down into the ground so that attmpts to tunnel under it would be virutally impossible. It would be a duel fence with 100 or so yards between them with motion and tunneling detectors. Should someone successfully surpass the first fence, the amount of time required to get over the second would allow border patrols to easily apprehend those in the zone.

Alex
04-13-2006, 09:03 AM
I would think that if you're cramming yourself into the back of a sweltering panel van, or hiking 40 miles through desert terrain with minimal supplies, or crawling through a claustrophobic mud tunnel, and all with a decent chance of death that the awareness you're not supposed to be where you're going is pretty strong.

I don't think a wall is anachronistic, just pointless and excessive.

Prudence
04-13-2006, 10:41 AM
Meanwhile, this morning's big story on the local news is that some painters left their work early to join the rally earlier this week and were fired for being AWOL. Fired for leaving work mid-day without permission! Shocking! :rolleyes:

scaeagles
04-19-2006, 07:28 AM
A few things to add.....

At the recent rally in Arizona that admittedly did draw around 100,000 people, one major push was the registration of new voters.

Only 121 registrations took place. I am wondering about the significance of this. Does this mean that the vast majority of the marchers were illegals? Does it mean that most of the marchers were already registered? Hmm.....

Also, the national boycott set for the first Monday in March has been cancelled. Politically a good move, as it would have backfired on their cause. I also figure, and I have no proof of this, that it had to do with the potential failure to get people not to go to work. They are here because they want money. In Arizona, about one year ago, there was an attempt at such an event and it failed mightily.

One other thing -

Let's talk about how illegals are treated in Mexico (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MEXICO_MISTREATING_MIGRANTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-04-18-18-08-31)

Vincente Fox, you and your demands can go to hell.

Nephythys
04-19-2006, 07:37 AM
First Monday in May you mean?

scaeagles
04-19-2006, 07:55 AM
Umm...yeah. Oops. But in my defense, they may be planning something for 2007 already.:)

Nephythys
04-19-2006, 08:04 AM
Umm...yeah. Oops. But in my defense, they may be planning something for 2007 already.:)


But May Day is the target every year. ;)

innerSpaceman
04-19-2006, 03:10 PM
Rats, and I was looking foward to ditching work. Bah.

Nephythys
04-19-2006, 03:12 PM
well- that's no surprise.