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scaeagles
05-01-2006, 10:10 AM
So.....predictions? I predict no matter what happens, the organizers will call it a huge success and the detractors will say it failed.

Personally, I doubt there will be much of an effect.

To do my part in helping it fail, I am taking my family out to dinner tonight, and my wife put off purchasing a dress she needs until today.

MouseWife
05-01-2006, 10:19 AM
I don't know where you live but I could 'hop skip and jump' right into Tijuana. {okay, maybe not but....}

This is actually a big deal here. I know a lot of people who are excited about shopping today as well. It is usually a very hectic experience any day.

I think it sucks for those who didn't want to do it; they'll lose a day of pay and maybe be in trouble.

We had a news report here that Fox {Mexicos president, not the network} was considering making illegal drugs legal in small amounts.

Right. Dude, you can't do a little bit of herion, okay?

I have so many theories on that one. But, one I can say is that what could happen is that it is legal for THEM but if an American gets caught with anything they will be thrown in jail and have to pay stiff fines or just be used to make an example of; seperating Mexican citizens from American citizens.

A report on being out today: Saw only one guy working landscaping...at Ralphs' we kept running into pallets of items that needed to be put away.
There weren't any lines, either.

But, Starbucks was crowded as usual. :coffee:

Gemini Cricket
05-01-2006, 10:19 AM
At first, I thought this said 'My 1st Boycott'. Like you went all activist or something. :D


I think it will have little effect. The press played it up to be a big deal, it's not.

I was inconvenienced for 2 seconds. My favorite burrito place was closed today. Seriously. No joke. I was mad, for 2 seconds. Then I went to get Orange Chicken at some Chinese joint.
:)

Ponine
05-01-2006, 10:29 AM
we expected a ton of people out today, being a school district, but so far, most were children, not adults.

scaeagles
05-01-2006, 10:33 AM
I don't know where you live

Phoenix.

About all that's happening right now is a "human chain" around a Home Depot where "day laborers" typically gather. Funny thing is that on the news report I heard is that the day laborers are there today and worried they won't be able to get work!

Moonliner
05-01-2006, 10:54 AM
Traffic seemed a bit lighter than normal today.

MouseWife
05-01-2006, 10:57 AM
I should drive by mine...{home depot}

Okay, Phoenix. I live in Chula Vista. Sometimes called 'Chula Juana'.

I haven't turned on the news yet. I guess I should.

Those who have good jobs can put in for a day off {who knows if they'll be reprimanded} but those who really can't afford to miss the work will suffer.

€uroMeinke
05-01-2006, 12:26 PM
I honored the day this morning by not going in to work and hanging out by the pool - Best protest ever!

Motorboat Cruiser
05-01-2006, 03:14 PM
I honored the day this morning by not going in to work and hanging out by the pool - Best protest ever!

I never realized that being an anarchist could be so ... peaceful.

Then again, I don't remember you having a pool, so what do I know. :)

Ghoulish Delight
05-01-2006, 03:18 PM
I never realized that being an anarchist could be so ... peaceful.

Then again, I don't remember you having a pool, so what do I know. :)He was posting from Desert Hot Springs at the very swanky hotel (http://www.dhsbeathotel.com/) they stayed at for Coachella.

Myself, I was celebarting by enjoying a vacation day by watching Cops...but now they've cut away from Cops to show breaking new coverage of some stupid protest, or boycott, or something.

Prudence
05-01-2006, 03:33 PM
Seattle's protest march is supposed to go past my school right about the time I'm supposed to arrive there to take my final tonight. If people do go march, I home they don't join up until it hits downtown.

Motorboat Cruiser
05-01-2006, 03:37 PM
He was posting from Desert Hot Springs at the very swanky hotel (http://www.dhsbeathotel.com/) they stayed at for Coachella.



Ah, I'm all caught up now. Thanks.

And surely every station that carries COPS can't be pre-empted. Don't they show that on about 9 stations. Give it a half hour and you should be back in business. :)

tracilicious
05-01-2006, 03:54 PM
Is this an immigrant thing?

scaeagles
05-01-2006, 04:31 PM
I got negative mojo for my stance against the protest and the fact that I'm going to spend money specifically today to help counteract it (in the OP).

Why is that worthy of negative mojo?

They are protesting. I am countering the protest. So it's OK to protest but not to counter protest?

SzczerbiakManiac
05-01-2006, 05:00 PM
Wow...! So negative mojo is now being given when one disagrees with someone else's politics?
Sad. Very sad.

Ghoulish Delight
05-01-2006, 05:04 PM
Mild admin nudge: Please keep this on topic. This thread is not about mojo.

wendybeth
05-01-2006, 05:11 PM
Spokane is eerily devoid of any sort of anything. In other words, today is just like any other day!

(No protests to speak of, and all businesses are open that would normally be, so far that I know).

innerSpaceman
05-01-2006, 06:59 PM
Why is it ok to strike, but not ok to cross a picket line?

blueerica
05-01-2006, 08:17 PM
I have a question that came up somewhere else, and I can't for the life of me sort out the answers, and maybe I'm remembering it all wrong, so I'm hoping some of our legal gurus can come in and clear up some matters for me..

Here's what I remember from my very basic classes in US Gov't. If someone from CountryX comes to the United States, say, vacationing, they are then protected by the Bill of Rights (etc etc etc). If someone is here from CountryX in a more "illegal" manner, are they still protected by the Bill of Rights?

I will assume for the sake of assumption, and not derailment into Iraqi Prisoners, etc... that in this example Person 1 and Person 2 will not be subjected to cruel or unusual punishment, something supposedly guaranteed by the BoR...

Anyhow, I hope my confusion is understood by someone and that the answer will reveal itself so that I may... not be confused, or something.

Help!

Cadaverous Pallor
05-01-2006, 08:36 PM
My report: At my 95% hispanic school (probably 70% first generation immigrant parents) about 5 kids from each class were absent today. That's a lot of kids.

My point of view: Boycotting work or not shopping are fine by me, but who do you hurt when you take your kid out of school?

MouseWife
05-01-2006, 09:01 PM
blueerica~I can't remember that far back but I am only going to go by what I see: I believe the people that are picked up, even questioned about their status, must be treated fairly and justly. Even in the picketing and demonstrations, things have been kept civil {from what I've seen}. I think if the demonstrators were to get out of control that the police would use extreme caution in how they reacted.

Cadaverous Pallor~I would assume here in Chula Vista, that kids kept out were more likely unable to cross the border {it was blocked by a human blockade?}than their parents keeping them home. But, you live quite far from the border. So, yes, if those parents kept the kids out, they lost a day of learning and in my opinion, a lot of them really need all of the days they can get. If they are already behind {and I said IF} because of their primary language then keeping them out only hurts them.

At our school, now that you mention it, getting to school in the morning was easier AND I didn't notice a trail of cars up to ten minutes past the time school started.....hmmm...Target was quiet and the parking lot, wow, I found a good spot.

€uroMeinke
05-01-2006, 09:07 PM
I've got nothing against taking your kid out of school to do something like this (i.e. an occasional political protest, not weekly political rallys to the casue of your choice) - puts some real world context on life outside school.

But, having just gotten home without any knowledge of the goings on today, I wonder if this really will accompish anything. UNless ity was overwhellmingly successful (and I suspect it wasn't becasue I had a normal day) then people will say, "eh, we got along with the immigrants just fine."

I'm also troubled becasue no one really has articulated what this is really about or supposed to accomplish - raised awareness perhaps? I'm all for celebrating our countries cultural diversity, but I think this is a reaction to presumed legislation that hasn't gone anywhere yet. Then again, perhaps that makes it the ideal time to speak out.

MouseWife
05-01-2006, 09:13 PM
Well, from someone who pulls their kids out to go to Disneyland....{and other places which I find to be quite enriching to their mental growth:D }

What I gather is that this is being compared to strikes by the airline, garbage collectors, etc.

Their 'goal' is for the illegals to get amnesty.

Sounds almost like blackmail, doesn't it?

I know the kids I've seen on t.v. seem very proud to be out and protesting.

I did hear another nationality {on behalf of their people} on t.v. say how they felt they wanted to be united with Americans and that this was not the way to achieve that.

scaeagles
05-01-2006, 09:14 PM
Why is it ok to strike, but not ok to cross a picket line?

Not OK for whom? That's an artificial boundary put in place by those in support of organized labor. I'm cool with organized labor, and I'm OK if they wish to strike. However, I can cross a picket line with completely clear conscience should I not agree with the issues they are striking about.

What if there was a nurses strike when I was due for my surgery? I think I'd have gone in anyway regardless of what the strike was over.

scaeagles
05-01-2006, 09:16 PM
I have no problems with parents taking kids out of school for a day to do something that is a non school educational experience. I did a couple of things during HS years that would fall into that category.

Edited to add the caveat: I only support this if it is a good student who keeps up with school work and maintains their grades. Someone who can't keep their grades up should probably not skip school for something like that.

Alex
05-01-2006, 09:49 PM
Why is it ok to strike, but not ok to cross a picket line?

It's not ok to cross a picket line?


For me, to the extent that I was affected it was in that I was able to start driving home from Disneyland at 3 p.m. and it only took about 75 minutes to get into the Grapevine. If that is what happens when illegal immigrants and their friends remove themselves from society for a day then I am all in favor of this happening every day.

wendybeth
05-01-2006, 10:09 PM
I know I'm going to get zinged for this, but if their goal was to let us know how badly we'd suffer without illegals making our lives easier, then I consider this a failure. They are not sneaking into this country for our benefit- they are doing so to improve their own lives. Yes, the vast majority of us came from elsewhere, but over the years laws have changed and the world has changed. I'm all for immigration reform, making it easier for qualified persons to become citizens, but this free-for-all we have going now is stupid and dangerous. I'm reading all these statements from business owners saying they lost money today because their illegal employees failed to show up to work today, and frankly I could give a rat's ass for them. I confess I am also a bit confused as to the true intent of the strike- is it just to showcase our dependence on illegals, or immigrants in general, legal or not?

I also wonder how many of the wealthy had to do things for themselves today?:D

MouseWife
05-01-2006, 10:19 PM
Quoting wendybeth:"I also wonder how many of the wealthy had to do things for themselves today?" Ah, yeah.

I saw a man on the news who was pulling a wagon with a big sign on it saying he was against illegal immigration and that we need to take care of our problem.

The news reporter asked him if he felt as if he were wearing one of those 'Kick Me' signs on his back? He said yes but he also hoped he was kicking them back, making them think.

He said that these people {the immigrants} are paid low wages and they have no rights, they are doing jobs no one will do and for what? {and I say no one will do because the companies get away with paying them nothing...}He said they are our new slaves. Is that worth fighting for?

And, to me, the idea of giving them amnesty~aren't there 11 million of them? And aren't they saying {mostly} Viva Mexico? But they are here.

I think we are strapped as it is. And, they are illegal. So...we are to give them amnesty when they are doing an illegal act? Perpetuating the cycle?

Yes, actually, I think most of us are from other countries. But, I think we have arrived here legally.

Well...right?

And I just caught a bit on the news that in Oceanside there is a big riot {what I gathered, maybe too harsh} going on and police are going up there from Coronado, National City and Imperial Beach {I think the last} to help. I believe that Oceanside has more gangs than down here. I could be wrong.

scaeagles
05-01-2006, 10:20 PM
I also wonder how many of the wealthy had to do things for themselves today?:D

I had actually thought a bit about this today.

What would happen in other industries should the money paid to illegal aliens go to other discretionary places? Not just by the wealthy, either.....in my middle class neighborhood many homes have their yards maintained by hispanic laborers (not mine - I have found that yard work is a scam invented by men with young children to escape them on Saturdays :) ). I will not dare to presume that they are all illegal, but it is assuredly a safe assumption that some are. What if they took that money and invested it or bought something they otherwise wouldn't have and just did the work themselves? Other areas of the economy would benefit immensely.

So....I'm not going to zing you WB. This is one of those rare times we are in agreement.

scaeagles
05-01-2006, 10:24 PM
He said that these people {the immigrants} are paid low wages and they have no rights, they are doing jobs no one will do and for what? {and I say no one will do because the companies get away with paying them nothing...}He said they are our new slaves.

Yep. This is why migrant farm worker organizer Cesar Chavez so adamantly opposed illegal immigration. He knew that the effect of the flood of illegals would be to lower the cost of labor an make it impossible for the legal working poor to get a better wage.

Cadaverous Pallor
05-01-2006, 10:27 PM
I have no problems with parents taking kids out of school for a day to do something that is a non school educational experience. I did a couple of things during HS years that would fall into that category.

Edited to add the caveat: I only support this if it is a good student who keeps up with school work and maintains their grades. Someone who can't keep their grades up should probably not skip school for something like that.I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of those kids stayed home and watched cartoons.

wendybeth
05-01-2006, 10:29 PM
One of the persons whining in the news was a landscaper whose illegal help skipped work. He's out $12,000 for the day, which makes me wonder how much he'd be out if he had legal workers? The answer is zip, because they would have been at work. Now, I realise the rest of the time he makes out like a bandit because he underpays and doesn't have to worry about taxes so much, so hopefully he's put some of that money aside to help defray today's expenses.

It also makes me think that perhaps they have miscalculated- knowing that so many illegals are willing to organize and act out will surely make people more leery of them on the whole and maybe spur the anti's into action.

scaeagles
05-01-2006, 10:29 PM
I'd bet you're right, CP. To many (most?) it was not a protest, but an excuse to have a day off.

MouseWife
05-01-2006, 10:33 PM
I had seen on t.v. that in the Fresno area {darn it, what is that called???} some companies are helping the families by building neighborhoods with homes they can afford to buy and live nicely with their families.

I don't recall if they were legal or not.

MouseWife
05-01-2006, 10:37 PM
One of the persons whining in the news was a landscaper whose illegal help skipped work. He's out $12,000 for the day, which makes me wonder how much he'd be out if he had legal workers? The answer is zip, because they would have been at work. Now, I realise the rest of the time he makes out like a bandit because he underpays and doesn't have to worry about taxes so much, so hopefully he's put some of that money aside to help defray today's expenses.

It also makes me think that perhaps they have miscalculated- knowing that so many illegals are willing to organize and act out will surely make people more leery of them on the whole and maybe spur the anti's into action.

Oh, yes. You KNOW they don't pay much. Add to that medical, etc.

Out $12,000 for the day? Because he probably paid the workers a pittance.

Will our economy suffer? Or will it dip for a bit and then become more strong if we fix this problem?

blueerica
05-01-2006, 11:06 PM
I guess to further my question, do they have the "protected" rights to free speech as legal citizens might have?

This has been a most interesting thread. I love you guys, you know... :)

Tramspotter
05-02-2006, 12:19 AM
SC your all wrong man you gotta get in the Jr High mentality and quit being all white and uptight... Then you will see what its all about

You gotta understand this protest has deep meaning attached it was totally spontaneously started by a 1/4 Salvadorian Kid who got picked on by the Mexican's at school but then he made peace with them cause of when he was called a wetback by some a-hole white senior now he has a dream (and a fauxhawk) and shares it all I got the my-space bulletin I know what’s up.

Illegal Immigration is so way not even a problem if you think so you are a racist and junk

Viva La Raza! I am so on board for this ****

Our next move to soften the movements perceived angry edge and gain much momentum from our uninterested high school brothers and sisters is to adopt a mascot with a younger more viral appeal therefore I propose The Spanish Fly (http://www.liquidgeneration.com/content/a55hat.aspx?cid=1552)

So do your part every little bit matters and ****
Us kids have voices that need hearing too yo
Peace out Bitches!
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Mousey Girl
05-02-2006, 05:24 AM
The Old People went out driving yesterday to see what local businesses were closed so that they could see where they would never go again. They found it odd that there were news reports that Jack in the Box was closed, but the many locally owned Mexican restaraunts were open.

Betty
05-02-2006, 05:49 AM
If all illegal immigrants (not immigrants - ILLEGAL immigrants) are made legal - there will be a new wave of illegal immigrants and all the "old" ones will lose their jobs to the new ones who will work for less money.

What I learned from yesterdays events...

There was ZERO traffic on the way to work. The offramp I exit usually has a wait of 3-4 lights before getting through. I was the only one exiting yesterday. There was only 1 person in line at the drive through during lunch instead of 5 or 6. Lot's of kid were absent from school... wouldn't it be nice if overcrowding was reduced all the time.

The only way I was impacted was in a positive way.

The news calls it Immigrants Day and what not and that's just a blatent lie. It's not IMMIGRANTS - but people who are doing something that is blatently illegal.

I would love to have each company have a way to securely check S.S. cards. Then - CRACK DOWN on EMPLOYERS.

No jobs. No pay. No people thinking there will be a better job here.

Just think of what all of those people who protested could do if they all stood together in Mexico. No work, no school, just one big - HEAR US! Think of the change they could bring about in Mexico!

Personally, I would rather pay higher prices for vegetables then health care.

And all this - they are doing jobs American's won't do. That's incorrect. It should be - they do jobs american's won't do for less then minimum wage. I know plenty of people who would work in a restauraunt or in construction. Just think - we might actually have a kid from down the street mow our lawn and earn some money - an actual paper boy from our neighborhood.

I find myself more worked up over this issue then really -anything other I can think of. A vote on this issue, for me, takes precendence over a woman's right to choose - and that is something I never thought I'd be willing to budge on. Of course, I don't think it'll ever come down to that. both political parties are so incredibly stupid that the "immigrant vote" is clearly more important then my own is.

€uroMeinke
05-02-2006, 06:52 AM
There are so many approaches to immigration and this event didn't articulate any. It's supporters paint the opposition as people who want to stop imiigration all together. The opposition see the supporters wanting amnisty for all illeagle immigrants, or open borders. I don't think either is completely true, but perpetuation of the extremes makes for good media.

Sadly, I think both sides are closer on this issue than I think. Personally, this is one area where I think George Bush came up with a sensible approach - i.e. a guest worker program. There's obviously a niche being filled by the existing illeagle immigrants - let's find a way to take advantage of that in a more manageable fashion.

MouseWife
05-02-2006, 07:31 AM
Didn't they turn down the 'Guest Worker' program?

And, it wasn't Oceanside last night but Escondido. I turned off my computer before the news came on at 11.

Oh, Betty, wouldn't that be awesome if our classes were not crowded? I know education for all 'yada yada' but why can't Mexico educate their own people? I know the wealthy there are fine. They need to take care of their poor the way we try to here.

At a local school meeting, a woman from a completely different neighborhood was talking to the principal and he said 'Well, if you know someone in the area...but I can't really talk about that. Too political.'

A woman in the office during registration was very upset because the secretary was asking for certain papers {that we all have to provide} and she just didn't want to abide by them and was upset she had to. See, one of them was an affidavit that the person she was registering lived with her. There are houses that you see 3-5 cars drop off kids and that person will take them to school.

Now, that is all fantastic that their kids are getting a great education but then the schools are unaccessable for my kid. They have the tricks necessary to get in to the better schools and I don't

I know, off track.

MouseWife
05-02-2006, 07:37 AM
Oh, back on track.

I agree with the employment comments. If there weren't people willing to do the job for way less the companies would have to. Why move our factories to other countries? We have so many people here unemployed.

And, the medical issue might just be helped, too. If there wasn't the burden of unpaid bills {illegals, this is a big deal here being so close to the border} maybe the costs would go down. I know they are also high because of lawsuits.

blue erica~ legally I can't say but I think this is such a delacate issue they won't be hard on anyone for anything. I was surprised that the Japanese {or was it Chinese?} woman who made the protest at the White House was put in jail. Or do they have different rules for different immigrants???

Hmm.

tracilicious
05-02-2006, 08:10 AM
(not mine - I have found that yard work is a scam invented by men with young children to escape them on Saturdays :) ).

Heh. Michael mows the lawn with the baby in a back carrier and Indi next to him with his bubble mower. :evil:

innerSpaceman
05-02-2006, 08:25 AM
I think what the boycott was trying to say was that immigrants, both legal and illegal, represesent a significant enough portion of the economy that it would be missed if it were absent. I don't happen to think participation was high enough to adequately demonstrate that ... but I think the attemped message was perfectly clear.

Most of us simply had a no-traffic drive to work, and we are giddy about that. But think about it for a minute. Isn't that a pretty amazing effect? We loved it, but if that many people weren't going to work every day ... don't you think that would have an effect on the economy?

I won't know whether any effect was had at my office till this morning ... when I find out whether the trash was emptied and the premises were cleaned. Frankly, I don't think many immigrants working lower-tiered jobs could have afforded to stay home from work ... and that the REAL point of the economic picture was for them not to spend rather than not to earn. We will likely never know the result of the no-spending boycott, but I suspect that's where the large part of the ecomonic effect lies.

I support such a demonstrative boycott ... even though I'm not in favor of illegal immigration and the way it drives down wages for working American citizens. But I believe that trying to thwart someone else's protest is in bad form, and that's why I neg mojo'd scaeagles.

And you don't have to believe that crossing a picket line is a wrong thing to do, but it's what I believe. I'll neg mojo anyone who crosses a picket line, so don't mess with me, got it?!?


I must also announce with some regret that I will no longer be able to participate in these fast moving and fascinating discussions of real world events. The LoT is now blocked at work, and there will be a lot less of me on the LoT from now on. Bah.

scaeagles
05-02-2006, 08:26 AM
I must also announce with some regret that I will no longer be able to participate in these fast moving and fascinating discussions of real world events. The LoT is now blocked at work, and there will be a lot less of my on the LoT from now on. Bah.

That's a bummer.

Regarding trying to thwart the demonstration.....the illegals are trying to demonstrate their power (granted, with some support from those here legally). I am trying to show they don't have as much as they think. If I stand by and allow the walk out to have a larger effect than it should, than I believe I am allowing them to garner power that I don't think illegals should have. If the impact of the walk out is limited, then their desire to wield political power as illegals doesn't succeed and perhaps the politicians will not fear them as much as they apparently do.

And I didn't out you on the negative mojo....I specifically left the giver of bad mojo anonymous because I didn't want it to be personal at all. I was just surprised that my comments were worthy of negative mojo and was wondering if other thought I was out of line but weren't saying so.

Motorboat Cruiser
05-02-2006, 08:50 AM
Regarding trying to thwart the demonstration.....the illegals are trying to demonstrate their power (granted, with some support from those here legally). I am trying to show they don't have as much as they think. If I stand by and allow the walk out to have a larger effect than it should, than I believe I am allowing them to garner power that I don't think illegals should have. If the impact of the walk out is limited, then their desire to wield political power as illegals doesn't succeed and perhaps the politicians will not fear them as much as they apparently do.



Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

I must also say that I get irked when the word "illegal" is conveniently left out of all the comments from the protesters who claim " we are all immigrants!". Some of those who are most opposed to amnesty feel that way because they went through a hell of a lot to get here legally, worked hard to learn english and assimilate, and don't understand why someone who circumvented that entire process and broke the law to be here deserves the same rights. I have to agree with them.

Alex
05-02-2006, 09:28 AM
Using a source (http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20060502-091238-7136r) that I believe would tend to prefer higher estimates puts the nationwide participation in protests and rallies at about 1.5 million. Since most of these people were apparently legal (on the news everybody interviewed claimed to be a citizen there in support of the cause, *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*) let's assume that 1 million were illegals.

This is less than 10% of the estimated number of illegal immigrants in the country. I'd guess that most of the illegals actually went to work or at least used the day to get a nap at home.

Muddying the situation will be how much of the economic impact yesterday was not actually caused by a huge impact from the absence of illegal immigrants but rather a precautionary measure in case there was one? Apparenly the Port of Los Angeles saw about 90% of their container truck drivers not show up. According to a spokesman this wasn't so much because there are a lot of illegals driving the trucks but because the drivers were concerned about delays and the resulting fines if they were late in delivering a container. So they did extra trips over the weekend and then took Monday off. Whether that is spin or truth, I don't know.

However, even if it were shown that the disappearance of illegal aliens caused severe economic hardship this would not be an argument against their removal. But more an argument for the degree to which wages are being artificially depressed in certain sectors of the economy.

Regardless of the presence of cheap labor the garbage still needs to be taken out at iSm's building. If the people willing to do this for $4.25/hour aren't there either they'll pay more or develop some way of getting out the garbage with the workforce they can attract.

scaeagles, if the gringos have to go out and spend an unusual amount of money to mask the economic impact of a strike/boycott is that not a tacit admission of their economic power? You can't go out and spend extra money every day. Essentially you'd be in an economic war like the one that bankrupted the Soviet Union. The Mexicans would be Reagan.

scaeagles
05-02-2006, 09:35 AM
scaeagles, if the gringos have to go out and spend an unusual amount of money to mask the economic impact of a strike/boycott is that not a tacit admission of their economic power? You can't go out and spend extra money every day. Essentially you'd be in an economic war like the one that bankrupted the Soviet Union. The Mexicans would be Reagan.

Well, I suppose so, but in truth I didn't spend anything that I wouldn't have spent anyway. I just chose the day to do it based on the boycott. My wife was going to buy a dress, but chose to do it Monday instead of over the weekend. We usually go out to dinner (at least) once on the weekend, so we didn't and chose to go out to dinner on Monday instead.

I have a feeling that a lot of people are like me in that regard and that the net effect will be zero. Just like I would guess there are day laborers that took the day off that will look to pick up an extra day of work on another day. If a family chose not to do their grocery shopping on Monday because of the boycott, it doesn't mean they won't be out buying milk on Tuesday.

Net effect is zero. It was all for show. As was me choosing to spend money on a particular day.

SacTown Chronic
05-02-2006, 09:49 AM
I dunno, sca. Getting you to change your shopping and dining habits sounds like power to me.

scaeagles
05-02-2006, 09:57 AM
I dunno, sca. Getting you to change your shopping and dining habits sounds like power to me.

I don't really think so. Regardless of their boycott, I was able to shop and dine out when they said they were going to bring the country to a halt, which many organizers did say. They did no such thing.

SacTown Chronic
05-02-2006, 10:13 AM
No, they don't have the power necessary to bring the country to a halt in one day. Only the terrorists have that kind of juice.

SzczerbiakManiac
05-02-2006, 10:36 AM
I noticed no difference in my commute yesterday. I had no disruption in my commerce. My workload yesterday was normal.
I roll me eyes at this protest.

Though I fully support their right to do so.

Isaac
05-06-2006, 07:57 PM
I did not notice anything different last Monday.

When I first heard about the boycott my initial thought was '....Great. Like mexicans don't already have a reputation for being lazy & not wanting to work.'

I have no sympathy for an illegal immigrant wanting equal rights of legal citizens. No one is twisting their arms to live in our country or take the jobs that are offered to them. If they want the rights of legal citizens they should try to become legal citizens rather than gripe.

Ho hum.

BarTopDancer
05-07-2006, 07:00 PM
To quote Leno..

What are they going to do if we don't meet their demands? LEAVE?!