You Haven't Seen WHAT?!

[Gemini Cricket]

You're sitting at a dinner table with friends and the subject of movies comes up. Then suddenly someone mentions that they haven't seen a film that you consider to be a must-see flick. You're stunned that you call this person a friend. :D

Which films have you not seen that you know you should see?

ie. A lady at work confided in me that she's never seen the first 'Star Wars' trilogy. And she said she had no interest in seeing the 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy either. I was stunned.

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I'll start.


I have never seen:

'Breakfast at Tiffany's'
'Sullivan's Travels'
'Spartacus'
'Dolores Claiborne'
'The Great Escape'
'Cool Hand Luke'

[Gn2Dlnd]

Anything with Liz Taylor.

Weird, I know.

[Not Afraid]

My list is enormous and includes:

Most Monty Python
Most Jim Carrey movies
Most Mel Brooks
Most Comedies
There's Something About Mary
Billy Jack

Actually, if I based friendships on what films my frineds haven't seen, I wouldn't have any friends. But, I do love those moments when I find someone was obscure taste is films and can actually talk about our obscurities. That's always instant bonding.

[Scrooge McSam]

Eraserhead
The Birth of a Nation
Rushmore

[flippyshark]

I've tried and just can't get into Gone With The Wind, so I've never seen the whole thing, athough I adore the Carol Burnett parody. I'm sure the right someone could talk me into it.

Here are a couple of classics I actually own and have yet to see:

Bridge on the River Kwai
Lawrence of Arabia

They're just waiting for me, but I keep telling myself I need to wait until I have a better home theater environment to do them justice.

[Gemini Cricket]

Yeah, I know I started this thread but just reading the last couple of posts... I think I just pooped myself.
:D

I'm all: "But...wha? I can't, you what? But that's just not... How... Wha...?"

[flippyshark]

My list is enormous and includes:

Most Monty Python
Most Jim Carrey movies
Most Mel Brooks
Most Comedies
There's Something About Mary
Billy Jack


So, can you name any comedies that you do like? (Billy Jack is one of the funniest movies on your list, by the way.) Some Like It Hot, perhaps? Doctor Strangelove? Dude, Where's My Car?

[Not Afraid]

I'm more of a Woody Allen commedy type. I like wit over comedy. Philadelphia Story is a great example. The Thin Man, Presten Sturges films, Whit Stillman films - those are usually good. I like Brazil. The Love Bug is pleasing, but that's more of a nostalgia thing.

Dr. Strangelove wa good in parts but I didn't like it overall. Some Like It Hot is a great film, but I don't LOVE Marilyn.

The more "slapstick" a film gets, the less I like it. And, I hate dumb. (I'm gonna get reamed for that one.)

[Prudence]

Alas, I haven't seen a good portion of the classics.

[flippyshark]

It's easy to miss the older classics, as there are so many of them, and until the age of home video, they were inaccessible except at revival houses and late show TV airings. I'm never that shocked if someone tells me they haven't seen an older classic. Unless it is he Wizard of Oz. I've only met a small handful of people who have never seen that, and it is always surprising.

It's also surprising, though increasingly common, for me to run into folks who haven't seen many, or any, of the golden age Disney classics.

Anyone here managed to miss OZ or one of the Disney biggies?

[Prudence]

Okay - I have seen most of the classic Disney live action movies. And some not so classic ones. For awhile my dad had mandatory movie night and since he feels only G movies are appropriate for viewing, we saw plenty. Over and over again.

Still, I'm missing things like Citizen Kane, Manchurian Candidate (although I have this one - just waiting for the right moment, I guess), 2001, Close Encounters, etc...

Have seen Gone with the Wind though.

[lashbear]

I've missed most Disney movies since Hercules.

Oh, and I've never seen Bridge on the river kwai or Debbie does Dallas.


Has anyone seen "The man who would be king" ? Great movie.

[€uroMeinke]

The Sound of Music
Tommy
Superman (any #)
Spiderman (any #)
Deep Throat

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Still, I'm missing things like Citizen Kane...

:sputters:

That's just not OK.

Me? I'm down to just two of the "AFI 100" movies. Midnight Cowboy and Yankee Doodle Dandy. I'm low on foreign classics, though.

[Prudence]

Now I'm perusing that list - I've never seen any of the Godfather, Rocky, or Jaws movies. I've seen 25 on that list, which actually was more than I expected.

[Stan4dSteph]

The Godfather
The Matrix (any of the three)

[flippyshark]

Now I'm perusing that list - I've never seen any of the Godfather, Rocky, or Jaws movies.

Take it from flippyshark, JAWS is the only entry in that series you need to see. JAWS II is okay but hardly essential, and JAWS 3-D and JAWS THE REVENGE are so bad, they will make you wonder if the first one could possibly have been any good.

Godfather I and II are fantastic, and Part III is very much less so, though it's probably worth seeing just to wrap up the whole saga.

[keith - SuPeR K!]

90% of the movies mention in this thread i have not seen... i am not very well versed in movies...

[Not Afraid]

I'm low on foreign classics, though.

Hmmm, thread idea. I think I'll start one. "Foreign Film Guide".

Oh, and I haven't seen any M. Knight Shamalamadingdong films.

[katiesue]

I've never watched Wizard of Oz all the way through - flying monkeys and I'm done.

None of the Godfathers or Jaws movies.

Bridge over River Kwai a ton of times - and in once in German.

Beverly Hills Cop in German - not so funny

Citizen Kane I finally saw in it's entirety an oh my gosh - it definately deserves the AFI #1 spot. Amazing.

[keith - SuPeR K!]

i just saw my first indiana jones movie 2 months ago... the ride makes so much more sense now... lol

[tracilicious]

Any Jaws
Any Robocop
Citizen Kane
Any Rocky

I've only seen one Alien. I saw the first a few months ago.

[innerSpaceman]

Waaaa, zapppop was also a bit deficient in movies more than 10 years old. We kept meaning to go through my collection and watch the dozens of must-sees he'd never seen. But somehow, when we were alone at my place together, we'd just never seem to get around to watching movies.:rolleyes: [whistles]


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I feel sad for anyone who's not seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind. It's impossible to see the original version. It has been lost to time, two very key scenes missing that make it almost a different movie. Bah on Spielberg for self-censorship and history rewriting.



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I'm not sure there's any legitimate must-sees or classics that I haven't seen. I'm sure there must be a handful, but I'm not aware of what they could be. Maybe this thread will clue me in.

[€uroMeinke]

Hmmm, thread idea. I think I'll start one. "Foreign Film Guide".

Oh, and I haven't seen any M. Knight Shamalamadingdong films.

Nah, we saw the "I see Dead People" one - you remember, where early on I asked, "is he supposed to be dead or something?"

Oh, and Blair Witch

[CoasterMatt]

I've never seen Pink Flamingos in it's entirety.

[Alex]

Anyone here managed to miss OZ or one of the Disney biggies?

Disney biggies I've never seen:

Bambi
The Aristocats
Pretty much every animated film between Robin Hood and Beauty and the Beast
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Any version of The Shaggy Dog
Mary Poppins
The original Freaky Friday

[Andrew]

I have not seen Evil Dead or Evil Dead II or Bubba Ho-Tep. They are, however, on my list.

[Prudence]

Oh you *must* see Bubba Ho-Tep.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Gone with the Wind.
Any of the Matrix films
Some Like it Hot
Brokeback Mountain
Any Woody Allen movie after Annie Hall (All of the ones prior, though)
Cinderella
Pirates of the Carribbean 2- Dead Man's Chest :)
Star Wars Episode 2

[Gn2Dlnd]

Bambi



My mouth hangs open.

[Alex]

I have, however, read the book. Hardly anybody does that so I figure it is balanced out. Back in a more bilingual period of my life I even read the first few chapters in the original German.

[innerSpaceman]

Brokeback Mountain
Um, you may face gay card revocation, buster!



Bambi was the last classic Disney film I saw, not viewing it till I was 27 - at a LACMA retrospective all ALL Disney animated films to date (in 1987). It was a revelation.


I cried.





(ok, I was on ecstacy at the time.)

[Not Afraid]

I haven't seen Brokeback Mt either.

[Gemini Cricket]

I feel sad for anyone who's not seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind. It's impossible to see the original version. It has been lost to time, two very key scenes missing that make it almost a different movie. Bah on Spielberg for self-censorship and history rewriting.
I remember seeing a version of this film where Dreyfuss is throwing trees and items to construct his tower through the house windows as his family flees. I saw it on TV and have never seen it again. Is it on the DVD or is it one of the scenes Spielberg took out?

[flippyshark]

Ah, Close Encounters, it is so confusing - so many versions, so little time.

In brief -

original release - Roy Neary (Richard Dreyfuss) tosses trees and shrubs through his window while his wife and kids get in the car and leave. He uses this stuff to build a big Devil's Tower in his living room.

The Special Edition - Spielberg got to recut the film to his own liking, with the studio-mandated provision that he add a new sequence, in which the audience, along with Roy, gets to see the inside of the Mother Ship. This version omits a couple of establishing scenes in which we see Roy at his job in a power plant. Also, this version omits the ravaging of the backyard, but we see the finished Devil's Tower in the living room and have little idea of how it got there. (not a great choice) This version also includes a fairly disturbing scene in which a frustrated Roy attacks his wife (Terry Garr) during a nervous breakdown. Other added scenes include the discovery of a lost battleship in the desert, and a brief UFO flyover shadow.

Criterion laserdisc version - This rarity included the original theatrical cut, with the added material included as supplements at the end of each disc side.
I recall there was also a Theatrical Cut only disc.

The NEW Special Edition - laserdisc and DVD - This is yet another Spielberg approved cut, perhaps his final word on the matter. (?) The shrub-throwing is back, the early work scenes are still missing (but included in the supplements) the 'inside the mothership" sequence is gone (again included elsewhere on the disc.) The unfortunate nervous meltdown scene is still there. (It's really unpleasant and makes Roy's character more difficult to relate to.)

There are other differences, but these are the major ones I can recall without being at home or able to go watch any of the above. A definitive DVD would have to include the original theatrical cut as a branching opton, at least.

Did I say 'in brief?" Yeesh.

[Andrew]

Criterion laserdisc version - This rarity included the original theatrical cut, with the added material included as supplements at the end of each disc side.
The Criterion LD, as I recall, included an insert describing, for those with frame-addressable LD players, how to program the player to show the original release or Special Edition. I think I may even have this somewhere in the darkest reaches of the garage.

[Morrigoon]

I'm more of a Woody Allen commedy type. I like wit over comedy. Philadelphia Story is a great example. The Thin Man, Presten Sturges films, Whit Stillman films - those are usually good. I like Brazil. The Love Bug is pleasing, but that's more of a nostalgia thing.

Dr. Strangelove wa good in parts but I didn't like it overall. Some Like It Hot is a great film, but I don't LOVE Marilyn.

The more "slapstick" a film gets, the less I like it. And, I hate dumb. (I'm gonna get reamed for that one.)

My but she was yar....

[mousepod]

Don't know if anyone will be in San Francisco this weekend, but we'll be warming up the 61" TV and watching some flicks. Some ideas:

Most Monty Python
Most Jim Carrey movies
Most Mel Brooks
Most Comedies
There's Something About Mary
Billy Jack
The Sound of Music
Tommy
Superman (any #)
Spiderman (any #)
Deep Throat

anyone?

[Not Afraid]

YOU SUCK! ;)

[Disneyphile]

I have never seen "This is Spinal Tap". :blush:

(I just admitted to that last night, so our friends lent it to us and demanded that I watch it this weekend.)

I have also never seen "Casablanca" all the way through - I always fall asleep.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Movies with an asterisk are films I want to see but for whatever reason haven't yet. The others I have no interest in seeing.
Bambi*
Pulp Fiction
Citizen Kane*
any Western
Toy Story 2*
Polyester* (I will not watch this without the scratch-n-sniff card)
any of the Godfathers
Eraserhead
There's Something About Mary*
Breakfast at Tiffany's
I regret to say I have seen Tommy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073812/). I cannot express with words how much I hated that film. I'd rather be repeatedly punched in the stomach that watch that drug-trip again. I very much enjoyed the Broadway version though. (I.e., I like the story and the music, it was Russell's version of it that makes me want to tear my eyes out.)

[Gemini Cricket]

For goodness sake, people. I have 'Citizen Kane' on DVD. I'll loan it to you through snail mail if ya like. One must see it but must keep in mind that for its time it was a groundbreaking film. Yes, it's slow in places but it's a fine fine film.
:)

[LSPoorEeyorick]

For goodness sake, people. I have 'Citizen Kane' on DVD. I'll loan it to you through snail mail if ya like. One must see it but must keep in mind that for its time it was a groundbreaking film. Yes, it's slow in places but it's a fine fine film.
:)

I'll see that and raise you: we have a SPARE copy on DVD. Who'll borrow it? Hmm? Hmm? HMMMMM?

[Moonliner]

any Western



I'm a gonna have to call you out on that one pilgrim. Everyone has seen at least one western. How about Blazing saddles? Nothing with John Wayne? I know you must have at least seen the most popular western of all times: The original Star Wars.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I'm a gonna have to call you out on that one pilgrim. Everyone has seen at least one western. How about Blazing saddles?Blazing Saddles is a parody of Westerns (and a damn funny one at that!), I do not consider it a true Western. If you do, they yes, I have seen a "Western".Nothing with John Wayne?nopeI know you must have at least seen the most popular western of all times: The original Star Wars.I understand where you're coming form on that, but I'm going to have to insist that Star Wars: A New Hope is in fact not a real Western—it is a Space Fantasy (definitely not Science Fiction.)

[flippyshark]

I regret to say I have seen Tommy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073812/). I cannot express with words how much I hated that film. I'd rather be repeatedly punched in the stomach that watch that drug-trip again. I very much enjoyed the Broadway version though. (I.e., I like the story and the music, it was Russell's version of it that makes me want to tear my eyes out.)

Tommy is a hard movie to defend, but I have an unreasoning love for it. (Admittedly, the Broadway version was better sung, more coherent and in every way more palatable.) Still, I have a feeling NA will find something to dig in it, if she gets around to it. For my money, any movie that features Ann Margret writhing in sensual ecstasy in a pile of baked beans, chocolate and soap suds is worth seeing.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

With all due respect to anyone that hasn't seen them, I just wanted to point out that the Godfather 1 and 2 are really outstanding films, IMHO. Definitely worth checking out.

[Matterhorn Fan]

Oh you *must* see Bubba Ho-Tep.I was going to say not to hurry.

I'll make my list from another list. Here are the films on the AFI 100 list that I haven't seen:

1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)
2. CASABLANCA (1942)
3. THE GODFATHER (1972)
5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)
8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)
12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950)
13. THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)
14. SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959)
16. ALL ABOUT EVE (1950)
17. THE AFRICAN QUEEN (1951)
18. PSYCHO (1960)
19. CHINATOWN (1974)
23. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941)
24. RAGING BULL (1980)
26. DR. STRANGELOVE (1964)
27. BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967)
29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939)
30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)
32. THE GODFATHER PART II (1974)
33. HIGH NOON (1952)
34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)
35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)
36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)
37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)
38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)
39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965)
40. NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959)
42. REAR WINDOW (1954)
44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
45. A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE (1951)
46. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (1971)
47. TAXI DRIVER (1976)
50. BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (1969)
51. THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (1940)
52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953)
53. AMADEUS (1984)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
56. M*A*S*H (1970)
57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)
59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955)
62. TOOTSIE (1982)
63. STAGECOACH (1939)
64. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977)
65. THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS (1991)
66. NETWORK (1976)
67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962)
68. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS (1951)
69. SHANE (1953)
70. THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971)
72. BEN-HUR (1959)
73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)
74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)
76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)
77. AMERICAN GRAFFITI (1973)
78. ROCKY (1976)
79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978)
80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)
81. MODERN TIMES (1936)
82. GIANT (1956)
83. PLATOON (1986)
85. DUCK SOUP (1933)
86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935)
87. FRANKENSTEIN (1931)
88. EASY RIDER (1969)
89. PATTON (1970)
90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)
92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)
93. THE APARTMENT (1960)
94. GOODFELLAS (1990)
96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)
97. BRINGING UP BABY (1938)
98. UNFORGIVEN (1992)
99. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (1967)
100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

So I've not seen 74 of these. Hmmm.

I'm not (but maybe should be) ashamed to say that I haven't heard of some of these. Or maybe I have (or maybe I've even seen them) but the title's just not ringing a bell.

I've seen parts of some on this list. There are a few where I'm not sure if I've seen them or not (presumably because I've seen parts)--namely, To Kill a Mockingbird and Streetcar.

I also haven't seen any of the Matrix movies (though I've seen one scene from the first movie, and most of the Animatrix), either of the Spidermans, Titanic (never!), Mulan (I have it), Hercules (I have it), Spirited Away (I have it). . . .

[Ghoulish Delight]

Good idea. And wow, my list was shorter than I thought. 62 I haven't seen. I would have expected more. I did notice that the majority of the ones I eliminated were one I've seen in the last 5 years or so. So it seems my viewing is accelerating.

1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)
3. THE GODFATHER (1972)
4. GONE WITH THE WIND (1939)
5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)
8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)
9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993)
10. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN (1952)
13. THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)
14. SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959)
16. ALL ABOUT EVE (1950)
17. THE AFRICAN QUEEN (1951)
21. THE GRAPES OF WRATH (1940)
27. BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967)
29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939)
30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)
31. ANNIE HALL (1977)
32. THE GODFATHER PART II (1974)
33. HIGH NOON (1952)
35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)
36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)
37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)
38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)
39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965)
43. KING KONG (1933)
44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
48. JAWS (1975)
52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
55. THE SOUND OF MUSIC (1965) *but I saw the Commodor in a stage version
56. M*A*S*H (1970)
57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)
59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955)
62. TOOTSIE (1982)
63. STAGECOACH (1939)
66. NETWORK (1976)
67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962)
68. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS (1951)
69. SHANE (1953)
72. BEN-HUR (1959)
73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)
74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)
75. DANCES WITH WOLVES (1990)
76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)
79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978)
80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)
81. MODERN TIMES (1936)
82. GIANT (1956)
85. DUCK SOUP (1933)
86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935)
87. FRANKENSTEIN (1931)
88. EASY RIDER (1969)
89. PATTON (1970)
90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)
91. MY FAIR LADY (1964)
92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)
93. THE APARTMENT (1960)
96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)
97. BRINGING UP BABY (1938)
98. UNFORGIVEN (1992)
99. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (1967)
100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

[flippyshark]

So I've not seen 74 of these. Hmmm.


I can help you with 25 of the titles you list - and a certain bellhop can probably supply even more.

[Alex]

Here's what I haven't seen on that list:

9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993)17. THE AFRICAN QUEEN (1951)
30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)
34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)
73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)
74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)
75. DANCES WITH WOLVES (1990)
82. GIANT (1956)
85. DUCK SOUP (1933)
90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)
92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)
99. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (1967)

[Matterhorn Fan]

I can help you with 25 of the titles you list - and a certain bellhop can probably supply even more.True. That list of mine makes me look kinda pitiful, but I've been catching up with my Disney live-action stuff in the last few years.

[mousepod]

I haven't seen about 20 movies on this list. What surprises me is that they're all movies that I've had so many opportunities to watch, but have passed over in favor of schlock. Dr. Zhivago? Haven't seen it. But I have seen The Island of Dr. Moreau. Multiple times. To add to Flippy's post - I've got most of the AFI list on DVD, too... so if you're in my neck 'o the woods...

[Motorboat Cruiser]

There are 53 on that list that I haven't seen. I actually did better than I thought I would, actually.

[Gemini Cricket]

Here's my AFI have not seen list:

44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)
88. EASY RIDER (1969)

A friend of mine that I went to college with said that we saw 'The Birth of a Nation' for class. But I do not remember it...
:)

[innerSpaceman]

Before I get to the list .... my hand is forced by earlier posts to lay down some smack fact on Close Encounters.

The Criterion version is NOT the 1977-release version. Two scenes are missing, and haven't been seen on TV, laserdisk, VHS, DVD or theatre screen since 1978 when the original film went out of release.

In doing the Special Edition, Spielberg was told by the studio folks to speed things up, and get rid of all those damn references to things reminding Roy Neary of Devil's Tower. In the Special Edition, there is but one left - - when the kid, Barry, is building a dirt mound at the hill where everyone returns to see if UFOs will do likewise. Roy recognizes the shape ... but, quite importantly, this version of the film includes no scenes of Roy building such a mound himself, in his house. The 'mountain of mashed potatoes' is the first time in this version - and all subsequent versions - that we see Roy "building" his own version of the mountain. The absurdity of the situation may still be funny, but the joke is lost without the set-up - - namely that Roy has been obsessively building a mountain in the midst of his model train layout.


The most recent "Director's Cut" restores the scene where Roy first perceives the shape (in a pillow) and restores the scene where he goes bananas and takes apart everything outside his house as raw materials to build a GIANT MODEL of Devil's Tower to replace his small train set version.

But - the mashed potatoes scene is STILL the first time we see Roy making his own version of "the shape." His obsession with the shape, which featured prominently in the original film, was toned waaaay down ... and remains a reletively minor plot point to this day.


Bah.


In the first missing scene, Roy and his wife Ronnie are getting ready to go to the AirForce News Conference and we can see that Roy has turned the playroom into UFO Central, with dozens of cut-out articles and a couple of Star Trek models. Most importantly, it's the scene where we see that Roy has added a prominent mountain to his model train layout.


The second missing scene immediately follows the army's plans to stage the phoney chemical spill. It has just been revealed to the audience that the target of the UFOs is Devils Tower. And even though you may not have ever seen Devils Tower before you've seen Close Encounters, you know what it looks like as soon as you see that shot of the Wyoming contour map.

The next scene, the missing scene, is of Roy in his playroom making desperate modifications to his mountain. The suspense here is great, because the audience now knows exactly what must be done. Just lop off the top and score the sides of the mountain with ridges. And just as Roy begins to scrape grooves into the side of the mountain, he is called away to dinner ...

In the only version of this sequence that is available today, the film would have you believe that Roy's mashed potato mountain is the first sculpture that he does. And it is not until later that you see his miniature train set mountain for the first time. This is totally wrong.



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Oh, and one word about the insertion of that nervous breakdown scene that was not in the original version: Roy does not attack his wife. He is sitting in a bathtub the entire time and is rather submissive and pathetic. It's Ronnie who gets hysterial, angry, and screaming. She yells at the kids, the kids start yelling, and Roy is the one pleading for calm.


It is a disturbing scene. Once you've seen it, however, you realize that the following scenes have some logistical and story continuity errors if the "nervous breakdown" scene is missing. I think Spielberg may have left it out of the original because it makes the family seem far more dysfunctional, and tends to give away the ending that Roy would choose an unknown outer space adventure over his life on earth.





Sorry for the length. Great films butchered by editing is a particularly peevish peeve of mine.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

The 'mountain of mashed potatoes' is the first time in this version - and all subsequent versions - that we see Roy "building" his own version of the mountain.

It's been a few years, but for some reason, I thought the first time he saw the shape was in the shaving cream while he was shaving. Or is that after the mashed potatos? Or am I creating this whole thing from a false memory.

I'll accept any of these as plausable. :)

[innerSpaceman]

As for the list, I've seen everything except "The Third Man," "The Jazz Singer" and "A Place in the Sun."



Like I posted earlier, I'm not the kind of person who hears "You haven't seen WHAT??? very often.

[innerSpaceman]

It's been a few years, but for some reason, I thought ...
Ah yes, correction indeed - - the shaving cream is first (a few moments before the pillow) .... and, technically, since he plays with it ... mashed potatoes is the second time he tries to make the shape in revisionist versions of the film.

[Kevy Baby]

Oh, and I haven't seen any M. Knight Shamalamadingdong films.Sixth Sense is good to see, but after that... eh

[Ghoulish Delight]

I've seen those scenes. It was a while ago, the first time I saw it, which was probably 5 years ago. I vividly remember him making the all important final modifications. And I was particularly puzzled the next time I saw it that the mountain-building seemed so...missing. So unless I saw it in utero, your claim of "not seen since 1978" seems suspect. But I am glad to finally know I wasn't imagining things when it felt like there was a lot missing, especially since it was on TMC, which usually doesn't do that kind of chopping.

[innerSpaceman]

Actually, having just watched all of M. Night's movies in preparation for tomorrow's opening of LitW, I find Sixth Sense to be my least favorite ... though it is obviously his most popular film.



As for any in utero viewings of Close Encounters ... all I can say is that I have not been able to monitor every single TV airing of this film ... but I have sat longingly through more television viewings than is healthy, and I have never seen those missing scenes aired on TV.


I'm postive, however, that they've never been released on any home video version ... and I call BAH, and Shenanigans on the esteemed "Criterion Collection" edition for falsely advertising itself to be the 1977 version of the film. Filth and lies, my friends, filth and lies.

[Kevy Baby]

I was curious how many of the AFI 100 I hadn't seen...

1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)
5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)
7. THE GRADUATE (1967)
8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)
12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950) (though I have seen the Glenn Close stage production)
14. SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959)
16. ALL ABOUT EVE (1950)
17. THE AFRICAN QUEEN (1951)
19. CHINATOWN (1974)
21. THE GRAPES OF WRATH (1940)
23. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941)
24. RAGING BULL (1980)
26. DR. STRANGELOVE (1964)
29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939)
30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)
31. ANNIE HALL (1977)
33. HIGH NOON (1952)
34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)
35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)
36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)
37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)
38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)
39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965)
40. NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959)
42. REAR WINDOW (1954)
43. KING KONG (1933)
44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
45. A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE (1951)
46. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (1971)
47. TAXI DRIVER (1976)
51. THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (1940)
52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
55. THE SOUND OF MUSIC (1965)
57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)
59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955)
61. VERTIGO (1958)
63. STAGECOACH (1939)
67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962)
68. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS (1951)
69. SHANE (1953)
70. THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971)
72. BEN-HUR (1959)
73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)
74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)
76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)
79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978)
80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)
81. MODERN TIMES (1936)
82. GIANT (1956)
83. PLATOON (1986)
84. FARGO (1996)
85. DUCK SOUP (1933)
86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935)
87. FRANKENSTEIN (1931)
88. EASY RIDER (1969)
90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)
91. MY FAIR LADY (1964)
92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)
93. THE APARTMENT (1960)
94. GOODFELLAS (1990)
96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)
98. UNFORGIVEN (1992)
99. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (1967)
100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

65 not seen. What a loser.

But I HAVE seen Blazing Saddles about 42 gazillion times.

[lashbear]

The Lashbear "Haven't seen" List:
9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993)
13. THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)
21. THE GRAPES OF WRATH (1940)
24. RAGING BULL (1980)
29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939)
30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)
34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)
35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)
37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)
38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)
44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
53. AMADEUS (1984)
59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955)
63. STAGECOACH (1939)
68. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS (1951)
69. SHANE (1953)
71. FORREST GUMP (1994)
73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)
74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)
76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)
79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978)
80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)
82. GIANT (1956)
84. FARGO (1996)
88. EASY RIDER (1969)
89. PATTON (1970)
94. GOODFELLAS (1990) 96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Actually, having just watched all of M. Night's movies in preparation for tomorrow's opening of LitW, I find Sixth Sense to be my least favorite ... though it is obviously his most popular film.


Just out of curiosity, what was your favorite? That is, if you liked any of them. :)

[innerSpaceman]

My favorite is Signs, with Unbreakable running a close second.

I love The Village more with each viewing.


The Sixth Sense is by no means a bad film, and was a legitimate cinema phenomena when it was in theaters. Except for €, most people didn't guess the twist and - far more important and rare - no one gave it away, spilled the beans, or talked about Fight Club.

[Alex]

Unbreakable is my favorite. Signs and The Sixth Sense are both roughly equal. I was apalled at how bad The Village was but haven't seen it since so maybe I should give it the chance of a second viewing. But the very idea of it is so trite and rehashed that it is hard to find enough enthusiasm to sit through it again.

And if you haven't seen The Third Man you really should go out of your way to do so.

[innerSpaceman]

I think too many people are hung up on the unsatisfactory nature of the patented M. Night "twist" in The Village. The movie is so much more than that. His movies don't need a twist. Signs doesn't have a twist.


I will certainly go out of my way to see The Third Man. Who knows? Maybe I'll see the other 2 AFI listers also.

[Not Afraid]

I don't reember a thing about Close Encounters except the famouse kid scene. It is quite possible I've never seen it.

[Not Afraid]

There are 17 I don't THINK I've seen, three of which I'm not sure about.

8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)

13. THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)

21. THE GRAPES OF WRATH (1940)

36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)

43. KING KONG (1933)????????

44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)

54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)

63. STAGECOACH (1939)

64. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977) ?????

69. SHANE (1953) ????????

74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)

83. PLATOON (1986)

85. DUCK SOUP (1933)

89. PATTON (1970)

90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)

96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)

98. UNFORGIVEN (1992)

[Alex]

If you only go out of your way for one of those it should be On the Waterfront. Most of those others are great movies (I wouldn't really put Birth of a Nation, Close Encounters, or The Jazz Singer on the list, they are more valuable as oddities advancing cinema than as films themselves). But On the Waterfront is truly a great one.

[Prudence]

I'll see that and raise you: we have a SPARE copy on DVD. Who'll borrow it? Hmm? Hmm? HMMMMM?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

*waves hand in air while bouncing in seat*

[innerSpaceman]

Close Encounters ... more valuable as oddities advancing cinema than as films themselves.

:confused: WTF:confused:



:eek:




:rolleyes:

[Motorboat Cruiser]

"Unforgiven" is a pretty wonderful film as well, IMHO.

[tracilicious]

Unbreakable is my favorite. Signs and The Sixth Sense are both roughly equal.


I love Unbreakable. It's by far my favorite. Signs is a close second, and my favorite alien movie ever. I loved The Village, and wasn't aware that most people don't. I will never watch Sixth Sense again. It was scary, and has made all the imaginary friends tromping around the house seem rather menacing to me. In fact, I'm halfway convinced that a certain cow and the girl who owns the cow that showed up six months later might not have been imaginary at all. Which is probably bollocks, but Sixth Sense got into my brain.

I've never seen Close Encounters, nor did I have the desire to until this thread. It does piss me off that I can't see the real movie.

Here's what I haven't seen from AFI:


1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)
5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)
7. THE GRADUATE (1967)
8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)
10. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN (1952)
12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950)
14. SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959)
16. ALL ABOUT EVE (1950)
18. PSYCHO (1960)
19. CHINATOWN (1974)
20. ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST (1975)
21. THE GRAPES OF WRATH (1940)
22. 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968)
23. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941)
24. RAGING BULL (1980)
26. DR. STRANGELOVE (1964)
27. BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967)
28. APOCALYPSE NOW (1979)
30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)
31. ANNIE HALL (1977)
33. HIGH NOON (1952)
34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)
35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)
36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)
37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)
38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)
39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965)
40. NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959)
42. REAR WINDOW (1954)
43. KING KONG (1933)
44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
45. A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE (1951)
46. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (1971)
47. TAXI DRIVER (1976)
48. JAWS (1975)
50. BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (1969)
51. THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (1940)
52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953)
53. AMADEUS (1984)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
56. M*A*S*H (1970)
57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)
62. TOOTSIE (1982)
63. STAGECOACH (1939)
64. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977)
66. NETWORK (1976)
67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962)
68. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS (1951)
69. SHANE (1953)
70. THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971)
72. BEN-HUR (1959)
73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)
74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)
76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)
77. AMERICAN GRAFFITI (1973)
78. ROCKY (1976)
79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978)
80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)
81. MODERN TIMES (1936)
82. GIANT (1956)
83. PLATOON (1986)
85. DUCK SOUP (1933)
86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935)
87. FRANKENSTEIN (1931)
89. PATTON (1970)
90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)
91. MY FAIR LADY (1964)
92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)
93. THE APARTMENT (1960)
94. GOODFELLAS (1990)
96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)
97. BRINGING UP BABY (1938)
98. UNFORGIVEN (1992) 100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

So I haven't seen 75 on the list. Quite honestly, I hadn't even heard of some of them. :blush:

[Alex]

:confused: WTF:confused:

Just to be clear, I like Close Encounters a lot! I just don't think it really goes on the list of the 100 greatest films of all time.

[Mousey Girl]

Since I can't remember what movies I haven't seen, I am going to copy the idea of others:

1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)

2. CASABLANCA (1942)

3. THE GODFATHER (1972)

4. GONE WITH THE WIND (1939)

5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)

7. THE GRADUATE (1967)

8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)

9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993)

11. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946)

12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950)

15. STAR WARS (1977)

17. THE AFRICAN QUEEN (1951)

18. PSYCHO (1960)

22. 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968)

23. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941)

24. RAGING BULL (1980)

27. BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967)

28. APOCALYPSE NOW (1979)

29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939)

30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)

31. ANNIE HALL (1977)

32. THE GODFATHER PART II (1974)

33. HIGH NOON (1952)

34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)

35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)

36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)

37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)

38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)

39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965)

40. NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959)

41. WEST SIDE STORY (1961)

43. KING KONG (1933)

45. A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE (1951)

47. TAXI DRIVER (1976)

50. BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (1969)

51. THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (1940)

52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953)

54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)

57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)

59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955)

63. STAGECOACH (1939)

64. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977)

67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962)

69. SHANE (1953)

70. THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971)

72. BEN-HUR (1959)

73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)

74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)

76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)

78. ROCKY (1976)

79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978)

80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)

81. MODERN TIMES (1936)

82. GIANT (1956)

84. FARGO (1996)

85. DUCK SOUP (1933)

86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935)

90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)

91. MY FAIR LADY (1964)

92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)

93. THE APARTMENT (1960)

94. PULP FICTION (1994)

96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)

97. BRINGING UP BABY (1938)

99. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (1967)

100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

Some of the above I have seen parts of, but never the full movie. Other recent movies I have not seen are Titanic, Brokeback Mountain and the majority of Oscar nominated films.

If I know ahead of time that a movie will make me cry I will not watch it. If just the tv commercials make me cry, and they aren't even the full trailer, I will not watch. The new Sept 11th movie is one I will be avoiding at all costs.

[tracilicious]

I've just had the brilliant idea to add a separate netflix queue with the top 100 and get one disk out of three every time. I wonder how long it will take to see everything?

[DreadPirateRoberts]

"Unforgiven" is a pretty wonderful film as well, IMHO.

Great movie.

"Hell of a thing killing a man... you take away all he has and all he's gonna have."

[Gemini Cricket]

As for any in utero viewings of Close Encounters ... all I can say is that I have not been able to monitor every single TV airing of this film ... but I have sat longingly through more television viewings than is healthy, and I have never seen those missing scenes aired on TV.
Now I am completely confused about which version of 'Close Encounters' is the real version. Is there anything close to a real version out on DVD? I'm confused.

Ya know, there's a reason why they call the final version of the film the locked version. It should stay locked. All this tweaking is confusing.

[mousepod]

I saw CE3K the first week it was released -- I even have the program. Even though I was 10 (going on 11) when it was released, I have a strong memory of most of the scenes that iSm describes. Whether the memory is real or imagined due to the power of suggestion is another thing. Is it possible that any of the missing footage showed up in any of the TV airings? I remember that the first time is was on network TV, it was spread over two nights...
... the hunt is on!

[Gemini Cricket]

Here's my AFI have not seen list:

44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)
88. EASY RIDER (1969)
I just added these to my Netflix queue. Must see all... :)

[Ghoulish Delight]

Watched Citizen Kane last night. It's entirely impossible to form an opinion on it. Having seen large chunks of it in passing, and, of course, it being so talked about and so esteemed. Not to say I didn't like it, I did. But as for its status as the best movie ever, I know I'm simply not qualified to even begin to analyze that. Too far removed from the time it was made, and too overloaded with baggage about it.

[Gemini Cricket]

If I remember correctly (film school was a long time ago) here are some reasons why CK is a primo film:

- creative chiaroscuro lighting and lots of shadows...
- dissolves and wipes used in a film
- low angles that showed the ceilings of sets (not very common back then, often sets had no ceilings at all)
- non-linear storyline
- overlapping dialogue
- deep focus shots
- characters aging in a film with the use of make-up
- long takes that lingered without cuts
- special effect shots (ie the camera going through the club sign)

These are some I remember. These techniques were not commonly used back then and rarely used together in the same film.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Oh, I'm well aware of all the technical marvles in the film. But Pearl Harbor also has a laundry list of technical achievments. Doesn't make it the best movie of all time. Not that I'd compare the two, just saying that beyond the technical reasons, I'm unable to judge the intangible impact of the movie having been deprived of seeing it sans prior knowledge.

[Gemini Cricket]

Oh, I'm well aware of all the technical marvles in the film. But Pearl Harbor also has a laundry list of technical achievments. Doesn't make it the best movie of all time. Not that I'd compare the two, just saying that beyond the technical reasons, I'm unable to judge the intangible impact of the movie having been deprived of seeing it sans prior knowledge.
Kane vs. Pearl Harbor

One was a first for its time. One is canned spew.

Kane has been a model for hundreds and hundreds of films that followed it. But I guess the same could be said for PH. :D

[Ghoulish Delight]

One was a first for its time. One is canned spew.
Which is exactly my point. I can list the technical whizz-bangs of Pearl Harbor, it remains a crappy movie despite them. Citizen Kane's technical achievments aren't what make it a classic. They're what made it noteable at the time (just as the special effects are what made Pearl Harbor noteable at the time), but it's the creative qualities that has made it last.

[Gemini Cricket]

Which is exactly my point. I can list the technical whizz-bangs of Pearl Harbor, it remains a crappy movie despite them. Citizen Kane's technical achievments aren't what make it a classic. They're what made it noteable at the time (just as the special effects are what made Pearl Harbor noteable at the time), but it's the creative qualities that has made it last.
Maybe it's the creative use of the technical achievments that makes it a classic?
There's also the huge story about how Hearst tried to crush Welles and the film for portraying his wife negatively. I'm sure that added some appeal to the film then and now.

[flippyshark]

Before I get to the list .... my hand is forced by earlier posts to lay down some smack fact on Close Encounters.

The Criterion version is NOT the 1977-release version. Two scenes are missing, and haven't been seen on TV, laserdisk, VHS, DVD or theatre screen since 1978 when the original film went out of release.


Consider me humbly smacked. I could swear my Criterion ld claimed to be the theatrical cut (it also claimed exclusivity on this point, as I recall) but I foolishly sold the damn thing, so I can't check the label. If even that was a tampered print, then things are indeed totally out of whack with this picture.

I'm also stunned at how badly I've misremembered that added "mad' scene - guess I hated it so much I made it worse in my head. You're right in that it adds good reason for Roy to leave his family behind. (Also interesting that Spielberg, in the doc on the latest editions, says that he would never make this film now that he has a family of his own. I'm glad he did so before he got domesticated.)

Hopeless innacurracy is the price I pay for writing posts from work when I'm too tired to fact check.

For what it's worth, I do remember those two scenes you describe. I hope Columbia will do right by this title someday. For anyone here who has never seen it, I think even the bastardized re-cuts are worth your time.

[Matterhorn Fan]

I'm suprised by how many people here have not seen "The Graduate." Isn't that on television often enough?

[Freaky Tiki]

I've seen it, but never on TV. Good flick.


I've never seen Grease...and you won't pay me enough money to watch it. I've seen stage productions of it, and have enjoyed them, but I never want to see the movie.

[Gn2Dlnd]

55.

Toot!

[Gn2Dlnd]

Signs doesn't have a twist.


Oh really? We should talk.

(actually, not a "twist," but an interpretation)

Twist, twist, twist. Funny word.

[Disneyphile]

Since I don't want to bore you all with an anticipated overly long post, here's the list of films from that list that I have seen in entirety:


1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)
4. GONE WITH THE WIND (1939)
6. THE WIZARD OF OZ (1939)
9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993)
10. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN (1952)
11. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946)
15. STAR WARS (1977)
25. E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL (1982)
34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)
41. WEST SIDE STORY (1961)
48. JAWS (1975)
49. SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS (1937)
53. AMADEUS (1984)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
55. THE SOUND OF MUSIC (1965)
58. FANTASIA (1940)
60. RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (1981)
62. TOOTSIE (1982)
64. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977)
65. THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS (1991)
71. FORREST GUMP (1994)
72. BEN-HUR (1959)
75. DANCES WITH WOLVES (1990)
78. ROCKY (1976)

Yeah, it's kinda sad. I'm not that, um... cultured. :blush:

[Alex]

I don't really think either Unbreakable or Signs had twists, more just revelations on the implications of what you'd been seeing. Neither ending changed the meaning of what had been seen before.

[Kevy Baby]

I'm suprised by how many people here have not seen "The Graduate." Isn't that on television often enough?There aren't many movies that I would want to see on TV for the first time. I just KNOW that too many important elements are missing when I see a TV version. Even if no content is lost, the ALWAYS untimely commercials and pan and scan (a HUGE peev of mine) are enough to ruin any movie.

It always cracks me up when I see Blazing Saddles on broadcast television. They have to take so much out that they invariably have to put in cut scenes just to make it reasonably lengthy. I saw one version where they added three different additional ways that Sheriff Bart captures Mongo. :rolleyes:

Putting Blazing Saddles on broadcast TV makes as much sense as trying to show porn.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Scarface
Scent of a Woman

[Kevy Baby]

Scent of a Woman was a wonderful movie, but I can't help getting an image of Al Pacino sniffing his finger whenever I see that title.

My name is Kevin and I'm a pervoholic.

[innerSpaceman]

And yes, the Criterion laserdisc of CE3K LIED on its label. It's frelling why I got into laserdiscs in the first place, and it was a lie (although, at the time, it did restore a great deal of footage that had been cut).



* * * * * *

I did end up starting a thread (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=3976) about M. Night's films ... so if you want to muse about any of those movies, or want to chastise people for not having seen them, feel free to say what you might about M. Night over there.

[Snowflake]

Anyone here managed to miss OZ or one of the Disney biggies?

I've not seen most of the Disney shorts, for starters.

Never seen Song of the South, Ichabod & Mr. Toad, Sword and the Stone and until I bought the DVD, never had seen Lady & the Tramp.

[mousepod]

Hey Snowflake,

If you ever want to see any of those flicks (or more), remember that we're in the same city...

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I will attest to the thoroughness of Mousepod's DVD collection, as well as his hospitality. :)

[lizziebith]

*types while looking fondly at the Close Encounters poster in her office*

Here are the AFI 100 I've missed:

13. THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)
21. THE GRAPES OF WRATH (1940)
37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)
44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)
69. SHANE (1953)
78. ROCKY (1976)
80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)
89. PATTON (1970)
90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)
93. THE APARTMENT (1960)
96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)
100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

Only 14 missed (and I might have seen a couple more - I just don't remember) -- not bad when I tell people all the time I could care less about movies! :p

[Gemini Cricket]

Also, my offer to let anyone borrow 'Citizen Kane' is still out there if you want me to mail it to you. Just don't scratch the DVD, is all I ask.
:)

[Gn2Dlnd]

I will attest to the thoroughness of Mousepod's DVD collection, as well as his hospitality. :)

Horse brutality?!?

[Gemini Cricket]

Horse brutality?!?
No no, that's Harry Potter's new play...
;) :D

[Nephythys]

ie. A lady at work confided in me that she's never seen the first 'Star Wars' trilogy. And she said she had no interest in seeing the 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy either. I was stunned.



I know someone at work who also has not seen ANY of the Star Wars movies. :eek: Blew my mind.

[lashbear]

Horse brutality?!?

Actually - the AFI has their head up their asses for not including The Rocky Horror Picture Show in the top 100 ! Look at it's success and the whole way of life it inspired.

.....Not to mention guys in panties, fishnets & stilettos.

[Kevy Baby]

....Not to mention guys in panties, fishnets & stilettos.I think you answered your own question.

[lashbear]

:p

[RStar]

I don't subscribe to that way of life, but I still agree that Rocky Horror should be in the top 100. I love that movie! I even have a copy with the audiance participation, and another with the actions that pop up at the bottom telling you what to do (IE "Throw Rice", ect.).

But nothing beats seeing it live!

[lashbear]

I don't subscribe to that way of life
If the suscription form is missing from this issue, please contact our publishers, and they would be happy to send you another, obligation free. :D

But seriously.....

I even have a copy with the audiance participation, and another with the actions that pop up at the bottom telling you what to do (IE "Throw Rice", ect.).

Have they released this? :snap: Is it a professional one, or fan-made? I'd love to have built-in talkback/participation "subtitles" for when I show it to virgins at home.

[Matterhorn Fan]

I'm updating my "never seen that" list:

2. CASABLANCA (1942)
3. THE GODFATHER (1972)
5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)
8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)
12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950)
13. THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)
14. SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959)
16. ALL ABOUT EVE (1950)
17. THE AFRICAN QUEEN (1951)
18. PSYCHO (1960)
19. CHINATOWN (1974)
23. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941)
24. RAGING BULL (1980)
26. DR. STRANGELOVE (1964)
27. BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967)
29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939)
30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)
32. THE GODFATHER PART II (1974)
33. HIGH NOON (1952)
34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)
35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)
36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)
37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)
38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)
39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965)
40. NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959)
42. REAR WINDOW (1954)
44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)
45. A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE (1951)
46. A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (1971)
47. TAXI DRIVER (1976)
50. BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (1969)
51. THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (1940)
52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953)
53. AMADEUS (1984)
54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)
56. M*A*S*H (1970)
57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)
59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955)
62. TOOTSIE (1982)
63. STAGECOACH (1939)
64. CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND (1977)
65. THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS (1991)
66. NETWORK (1976)
67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962)
68. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS (1951)
69. SHANE (1953)
70. THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971)
72. BEN-HUR (1959)
73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)
74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)
76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)
77. AMERICAN GRAFFITI (1973)
78. ROCKY (1976)
79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978)
80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)
81. MODERN TIMES (1936)
82. GIANT (1956)
83. PLATOON (1986)
85. DUCK SOUP (1933)
86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935)
87. FRANKENSTEIN (1931)
88. EASY RIDER (1969)
89. PATTON (1970)
90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)
92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)
93. THE APARTMENT (1960)
94. GOODFELLAS (1990)
96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)
97. BRINGING UP BABY (1938)
98. UNFORGIVEN (1992)
99. GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER (1967)
100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

[Gemini Cricket]

Matterhorn Fan,
If I paid you, would you see these films?
Signed,
GC
:D

[Snowflake]

I'm updating my "never seen that" list:
MatterhornFan listed a bunch O great films here


:eek: :eek:

You're foolin' aren't you???????

:eek: :eek:

[Ghoulish Delight]

So I can scratch Midnight Cowboy off my list...twice. We watched it last night. Now, I thought I had seen it some many years ago, but I couldn't recall a single thing about it. But watching it now, I recognized every scene, even if I had no clue what was coming next. So, as it turns out, I HAD seen it, just nearly completely forgotten it.

[Gemini Cricket]

'The Third Man' came yesterday on Netflix. I'm watching it tonight...
:)

[mousepod]

'The Third Man' came yesterday on Netflix. I'm watching it tonight...
:)

Let me know if you LOVE The Third Man. Orson Welles did a radio show in the early 50s called "The Lives of Harry Lime" - a sort of prequel to the movie. I have all 52 episodes in mp3 format - perfect for ipod commuting. I'm happy to share...

[Snowflake]

'The Third Man' came yesterday on Netflix. I'm watching it tonight...
:)


OHHHHHH! Great GREAT movie! Carol Reed at his finest! Orson Welles, one of the great character intro shots ever. The final sequence, sheer brilliance, the ferris wheel sequence, great! The score by Anton Karras, haunting. The little kid with the ball, unforgettable! The photography, deep blacks and shadows, sharp whites, just a fabulous movie!

[Snowflake]

Let me know if you LOVE The Third Man. Orson Welles did a radio show in the early 50s called "The Lives of Harry Lime" - a sort of prequel to the movie. I have all 52 episodes in mp3 format - perfect for ipod commuting. I'm happy to share...

Oh please do!
I will PM my email!

[Gemini Cricket]

I'll definitely let you guys know what I think of it after.
I really want to rent the 'Magnificent Ambersons' too.

[mousepod]

I don't think Ambersons has been released in the US yet. If you have the ability to watch PAL DVDs (and there's no good reason why you shouldn't), let me know...

And since there's such a huge demand for the Harry Lime mp3s (ok, only Snowflake so far, but still...), I put up the first ten episodes for your convenient downloading pleasure (http://www.mousepod.com/lot/harrylime/). If there's a call for 'em, I'll post the rest.

[Gemini Cricket]

I don't think Ambersons has been released in the US yet. If you have the ability to watch PAL DVDs (and there's no good reason why you shouldn't), let me know...
Dang it. I saw it on TCM or FMC and thought for sure it would be on DVD. Dagburn!
I don't have PAL capabilities. Darn it.
Time to harass Ted Turner again. I wrote TCM several times to release 'The Man Who Came to Dinner' on DVD. It finally came out a month ago or so. (I'm sure it had nothing to do with my letters, but sheesh why'd they wait so long?)

[mousepod]

The Philips DVP642 player (currently $55 on amazon) will play PAL discs on your NTSC player, has a simple region-free hack (with the remote), and will play many divx files (just download 'em and burn 'em to a cd or dvd). I'm not the only LoTer who has one (how many parentheticals will it take to convince you?).

[Gemini Cricket]

I want one.

[Matterhorn Fan]

Matterhorn Fan,
If I paid you, would you see these films?
Signed,
GC
:DHey, give me some credit, now.

If you compare that list with the previous one I posted, you'll see that I've taken one off. Go ahead, look.


I did balance it out with the relatively crappy "The Ninth Gate" (it had Johnny Depp in it) and "Stargate" (saw it when it was in the theater and love the TV series; I still love the TV series). But still. Yesterday was a good movie day for me!

Another should come off that list by the end of the weekend. But if you'd like to pay me to watch great films, I'm not going to put up too much of a fuss. ;)

[Alex]

The Ninth Gate was pretty bad but I heartily recommend the book it is based on: The Club Dumas by Arturo Pérez-Reverte.

It is very good and all the things that didn't make any sense in the movie make sense in the book.

[Matterhorn Fan]

I think I may have bought that book for my dad one Christmas. I wonder if I own a copy. Someday I'll have to go through the books I own and figure out what I own and what I don't. It's going to be a very big job.

[Nephythys]

My list of "have not seen"-

1. CITIZEN KANE (1941)

2. CASABLANCA (1942)

3. THE GODFATHER (1972)

5. LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (1962)

7. THE GRADUATE (1967)

8. ON THE WATERFRONT (1954)

9. SCHINDLER'S LIST (1993)

11. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (1946) (Ok I have- but not for a LONG TIME)

12. SUNSET BOULEVARD (1950)

13. THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI (1957)

14. SOME LIKE IT HOT (1959)

16. ALL ABOUT EVE (1950)

18. PSYCHO (1960)

19. CHINATOWN (1974)

20. ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST (1975)

21. THE GRAPES OF WRATH (1940)

23. THE MALTESE FALCON (1941)

24. RAGING BULL (1980)

26. DR. STRANGELOVE (1964)

27. BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967)

28. APOCALYPSE NOW (1979)

29. MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON (1939)

30. THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE (1948)

31. ANNIE HALL (1977)

32. THE GODFATHER PART II (1974)

33. HIGH NOON (1952)

34. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (1962)

35. IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT (1934)

36. MIDNIGHT COWBOY (1969)

37. THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES (1946)

38. DOUBLE INDEMNITY (1944)

39. DOCTOR ZHIVAGO (1965)

43. KING KONG (1933)

44. THE BIRTH OF A NATION (1915)

47. TAXI DRIVER (1976)

50. BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID (1969)

51. THE PHILADELPHIA STORY (1940)

52. FROM HERE TO ETERNITY (1953)

53. AMADEUS (1984)

54. ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT (1930)

56. M*A*S*H (1970)

57. THE THIRD MAN (1949)

59. REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955)

61. VERTIGO (1958)

63. STAGECOACH (1939)

66. NETWORK (1976)

67. THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (1962)

68. AN AMERICAN IN PARIS (1951)

70. THE FRENCH CONNECTION (1971)

73. WUTHERING HEIGHTS (1939)

74. THE GOLD RUSH (1925)

76. CITY LIGHTS (1931)

77. AMERICAN GRAFFITI (1973)

78. ROCKY (1976)

79. THE DEER HUNTER (1978)

80. THE WILD BUNCH (1969)

81. MODERN TIMES (1936)

82. GIANT (1956)

83. PLATOON (1986)

84. FARGO (1996)

85. DUCK SOUP (1933)

86. MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY (1935)

87. FRANKENSTEIN (1931)

88. EASY RIDER (1969)

89. PATTON (1970)

90. THE JAZZ SINGER (1927)

92. A PLACE IN THE SUN (1951)

93. THE APARTMENT (1960)

94. GOODFELLAS (1990)

96. THE SEARCHERS (1956)

100. YANKEE DOODLE DANDY (1942)

yup-

[Capt Jack]

3. THE GODFATHER (1972)
77. AMERICAN GRAFFITI (1973)
89. PATTON (1970)



omg! whats wrong with you people!!! :eek:
(sorry, just three of the many I nearly have memorized.)

[mousepod]

Ok... all 52 episodes of Harry Lime (http://mousepod.com/lot/harrylime/) are up.

If you haven't seen The Third Man yet, don't listen to any of these. The end of the movie is spoiled in the opening moments of the first episode.

[Not Afraid]

I want one.

No. You NEED one.

Buy it. It has been a wonderful thing to have.


I need to see The Third Man again. It's been ages.

[Snowflake]

I don't think Ambersons has been released in the US yet. If you have the ability to watch PAL DVDs (and there's no good reason why you shouldn't), let me know...

And since there's such a huge demand for the Harry Lime mp3s (ok, only Snowflake so far, but still...), I put up the first ten episodes for your convenient downloading pleasure (http://www.mousepod.com/lot/harrylime/). If there's a call for 'em, I'll post the rest.

Thanks Mousepod!:snap: :cheers:

I'm downloaded them now!

[Snowflake]

Ok... all 52 episodes of Harry Lime (http://mousepod.com/lot/harrylime/) are up.

If you haven't seen The Third Man yet, don't listen to any of these. The end of the movie is spoiled in the opening moments of the first episode.

oh dear, I guess I will be downloading for a while then. Thank goodness they don't take too long!

[Alex]

MousePod, any chance of putting up a large zip file so I don't have to download 52 large files one at a time?

You're providing the service though, so don't put yourself out.

[mousepod]

No problem, Alex. Just give me a while to upload it.

[mousepod]

Ok... for Alex and anyone else who wants their Lime in a big chunk:
all 52 episodes of Harry Lime in one zip file (http://mousepod.com/lot/harrylime/HarryLime.zip).