All things in moderation....?

[sleepyjeff]

http://health.msn.com/centers/cardio/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100142823&GT1=8452

:coffee:

This latest finding will most likely keep the coffee debate percolating among health experts. ......Baylin and her colleagues from Harvard's School of Public Health looked at 503 nonfatal heart attack cases that occurred between 1994 and 1998 in Costa Rica. Their study, expected to be published in the September issue of Epidemiology, found light (one cup daily) and moderate (two to three cups daily) coffee consumption was linked to a higher incidence of first, nonfatal heart attacks when compared with heavy (four cups or more daily) coffee consumption. Most people in the study reported drinking two to three cups of coffee per day.

"We don't know, but think it may be caffeine, because that is the active component in coffee that we know increases sympathetic nerve activity, which raises blood pressure," Baylin speculated.

She stressed the study focused only on the short-term effects of coffee; the researchers only looked at the first hour after coffee was consumed. "The acute effect of coffee as a trigger for heart attack is modified by habitual consumption. People who drink it regularly are still at risk. Only heavy drinkers are not at risk," she said.

I knew the "all things in moderation" slogan was bogus:D

[Tramspotter]

:coffee: Sure a MI destroys smooth heart mussle cells but only the weak ones! :coffee:

Now where's the study that says drinking coffee helps mitigate the damage alchohol does on the liver?

I'll drink to that one :cheers:

[Gemini Cricket]

What happens to those of us that don't drink coffee? One cup and death?!
:D

[Alex]

Probably, but I suspect it would be induced by the vile taste. Not the presence of caffeine.

The press is notoriously horrible about summarizing medical studies and I would expect this to be the case here. I'd be interested to know if they filtered out other sources of caffeine, many people drink soda in quantities much larger than they would coffee. Also, since they were only studying short term effects how common the large consumption was. How many people drink four or more cups of coffee in an hour?

[Gemini Cricket]

the vile taste
Yep. Bleckk!

[sleepyjeff]

Probably, but I suspect it would be induced by the vile taste. Not the presence of caffeine.



I'd have to agree. The only way I can drink coffee is with lots and lots of milk....and I don't even really like milk.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

My best friend lives in Seattle, center of the coffee universe, and he says coffee doesn't taste so bad if you mix in enough milk. To which I reply, "Then just give me milk!"

[Kevy Baby]

I like to take my excesses in moderation.

Would that be considered moderately excessive or excessively moderate?

[Alex]

The former.

I lived in Seattle and didn't drink coffee. It was lonely.

[Not Afraid]

I drink about 2 cups a day and I don't dink any other source of caffine throughout the day (with the exception of an occasional iced tea or chocolate). My Mom died of a massiveheart attack. I'm doomed anyways.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Green tea, please.

(OK, any tea. But I'm now drinking to my health with green.)

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

I'm scared of flying because I'm scared the plane will plummet to the earth with me inside, screaming and wetting myself whilst begging someone as helpless as I am for help.

I still fly.

I'm scared that a drunk driver is going to run into me when I'm walking around my neighborhood at night, listening to some tunes and thinking about architecture.

I still walk around my neighborhood at night.

I'm scared that the things I sometimes put into my body will eventually lead to sickness.

I still drink coffee, occasionally have a smoke, drink alcohol and eat fried chicken, complete with a butter drenched waffle.

I'm scared of a lot of things, but I enjoy the things I like, and so long as those things are not an injury to others, I'm going to continue to enjoy them.

If I live to be a hundred, I don't want it to be because of deprivation.

[Prudence]

I still live in the Seattle area and I still don't drink coffee. I've even worked as a barista. (But this was back when it started and they weren't called baristas yet.)

[Capt Jack]

Probably, but I suspect it would be induced by the vile taste. Not the presence of caffeine.

Yep. Bleckk!

I'd have to agree. The only way I can drink coffee is with lots and lots of milk....and I don't even really like milk.

oh my god, how did I ever end up here?

I've been doin' the coffee thing since I was 9.
I used to use my milk money to get a small black java and a plain cake doughnut on the way to class .... in the 5th grade!

you people are just freaks.
:coffee: :coffee: :coffee:

[Stan4dSteph]

To those who says coffee is bad for me: fvck off and give me my latte!

[Tramspotter]

Where's our resident coffee expert when you need her? :)

[Alex]

Had a heart attack. (Said jokingly, of course, since I have no idea who the resident expert is)

[tracilicious]

Had a heart attack. (Said jokingly, of course, since I have no idea who the resident expert is)

Now wouldn't that have been easier if you had just said:

Had a heart attack. :p

[Alex]

No. Because then I would have had to deal with all the bull**** resulting from me using a smiley (and besides I posted one in the last week so my quota is up).

Also, it was a very last minute decision to add it after I submitted it and realized that with my luck it would turn out the expert was someone currently in the hospital near death so I wanted to make clear I didn't know who the person was.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I drank 3 cups of coffee and skipped lunch today. I've lost track, does that mean I'm going to die of a massive coranary tomorrow or that I'll live to 115?

[Kevy Baby]

...does that mean I'm going to die of a massive coronary tomorrow or that I'll live to 115?Yes

[Alex]

I'll take the contrary position and say "no."

[Not Afraid]

I'll just be snotty and say "Do we care?" ;)

[Stan4dSteph]

And I'll take the position of "cranky person who hasn't had coffee yet" and say "GRRRRRRRRRR! I NEED CAFFEINE!"

[lashbear]

Had a heart attack. (Said jokingly, of course, since I have no idea who the resident expert is)

...a light hearted way of saying it is to say "I think he had a lashbear" :D

[Kevy Baby]

Oh fine: just inject a little sobering reality into the frivolity

[SacTown Chronic]

Oddly enough, Kevin, that exact sentence is considered foreplay in lash's house.

[RStar]

Probably, but I suspect it would be induced by the vile taste. I like my coffee to taste like Hot Chocolate, so I often mix in some hot chocolate powder and milk. Oh, and lots and lots of sugar. I only drink one cup a day in the morning, but between the sugar and the caffine, I'm awake!:eek:

Besides, I like this quote from the article:


"Only heavy drinkers are not at risk," she said

So, I say, DRINK UP and save your life!!!!!!

[RStar]

I still fly, drink alcohol and eat fried chicken, complete with a butter drenched waffle.


I'm not sure if I should invite you over for a party, give you the number of my therapist, or invite myself over for a fried chicken complete with a butter drenched waffle dinner!
:D

[€uroMeinke]

I'm glad coffee is part of my healthy lifestyle

[Alex]

I don't drink coffee, consume minimal caffeine, have never smoked (other than once when 7 but my mom caught me and made sure the urge would never arise again), while I've tried various drugs none more than once, I don't eat red meat (or the other white meat), I run 2-4 half marathons a year.

And still I'm 100 pounds overweight and will probably die of a heart attack before I'm 50 except in my family men die of cancer before that.

Live life, don't worry so much about tweaking the odds.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Apropos of, well, almost nothing, I just felt like quoting this...

Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a ****ing big television, Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players, and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol and dental insurance. Choose fixed- interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisure wear and matching luggage. Choose a three piece suite on hire purchase in a range of ****ing fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing sprit- crushing game shows, stuffing ****ing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing you last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, ****ed-up brats you have spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that?

[Motorboat Cruiser]

while I've tried various drugs none more than once...

-snip-

And still I'm 100 pounds overweight

Methamphetamine can fix that for you in a jiffy.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

I'm not sure if I should invite you over for a party, give you the number of my therapist, or invite myself over for a fried chicken complete with a butter drenched waffle dinner!
:D

How about you invite your therapist and me to your party, where you'll be serving butter drenched waffle dinners?

[Capt Jack]

Live life, don't worry so much about tweaking the odds.

words to live by.

I shall serve out my life sentence here as I see fit, quibbling not over a few extra ticks on the clock.

[lashbear]

Live life, don't worry so much about tweaking the odds.

...and with that thought in mind, I am now sitting here eating a butter-drenched waffle. :)

[katiesue]

I drink coffee, black. Why put all that other crap in it? Usually one cup or so a day plus one or two Tab's are my caffiene quota.

[Kevy Baby]

I like my coffee like I like my woman: sweet and blonde

[lashbear]

I like my coffee like I like my men... Strong, sweet & Hairy.







.....OK, so maybe I don't like my coffee hairy...

:blush:

[JWBear]

I like my coffee like I like my men... Strong, sweet & Hairy.







.....OK, so maybe I don't like my coffee hairy...

:blush:
I've heard that about Aussie coffee..... :coffee: