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Snowflake
11-07-2006, 07:00 PM
Okay, I have an ewire 2700 hg B modem. It's a combo DSL and wireless (and when my roomie comes back, her wireless will be connected to this as well).

I'm using the DSL, but I have noticed periodically that my internet speed slows down to a crawl. Now, the wireless light is not lit, but can a wireless user still camp on this modem and slow me down?

Or do I simply need to shut down and reset the modem?

BarTopDancer
11-07-2006, 07:25 PM
It is possible that someone has found your connection and is using it to access the internet. I suggest you lock down your network by putting a password on your connection.

Snowflake
11-07-2006, 07:55 PM
It is possible that someone has found your connection and is using it to access the internet. I suggest you lock down your network by putting a password on your connection.

Okay, color me an idiot, how do I do this?
Any handy dandy guide online I can consult to save you from having to type it?

Moonliner
11-07-2006, 08:20 PM
Once you find your way in to the administration console to set the password, you might also want to check the list of connected devices that most routers have. That will tell you if anyone else has recently connected to your router.

Moonliner
11-07-2006, 08:25 PM
Ps. The binoculars I'm using to look in your window are not all that strong, but it looks like you have a:

2wire 2700hg (http://www.2wire.com/pages/pdfs/5100-000326-000.Rev.A.pdf) and not an ewire 2700. Is that right?

BarTopDancer
11-07-2006, 08:30 PM
Try typing 192.168.1.1 into your web browser. It may bring up your admin console.

Moonliner
11-07-2006, 08:33 PM
According to the manual I linked to above, the console path would be:

http://2wire.gateway.net

(Since it's acting as the default gateway it can trap that address)

Now the password is a different matter...

Although page 13 does tell you how to reset it if you need to.

Ohh, and page 79 describes the device list I mentioned above.


Ps. If after checking the connected devices, you still feel the need to lock down your router then you need to do two things.
First stop broadcasting your SSID and second enable WEP encryption. Seach the manual for "SSID" and "WEP" for details.

MickeyLumbo
11-07-2006, 09:32 PM
hey moonie, you won't need strong binoculars to see what i've got!

see, look.:eek:

Snowflake
11-07-2006, 09:35 PM
Ps. The binoculars I'm using to look in your window are not all that strong, but it looks like you have a:

2wire 2700hg (http://www.2wire.com/pages/pdfs/5100-000326-000.Rev.A.pdf) and not an ewire 2700. Is that right?
:blush: you're totally right!

Snowflake
11-07-2006, 09:41 PM
According to the manual I linked to above, the console path would be:

http://2wire.gateway.net

(Since it's acting as the default gateway it can trap that address)

Now the password is a different matter...

Although page 13 does tell you how to reset it if you need to.

Ohh, and page 79 describes the device list I mentioned above.


Ps. If after checking the connected devices, you still feel the need to lock down your router then you need to do two things.
First stop broadcasting your SSID and second enable WEP encryption. Seach the manual for "SSID" and "WEP" for details.


Well the url pops up a cannot find server error page.

I clicked on and checked my connection and everything looks to be in order. As I said before, the wireless light is not lit, at least not now. I will keep an eye on that.

I'll be studying the manual....in this I am not too tech savvy!

But thanks for the ready and speedy help!

Ghoulish Delight
11-07-2006, 10:50 PM
You're on DSL, you share bandwidth. Could just be peak time in your neighborhood.

Moonliner
11-08-2006, 02:38 PM
You're on DSL, you share bandwidth. Could just be peak time in your neighborhood.

I think you have DSL and cable mixed up. A DSL connection is a straight shot to the DSLAM at your exchange.

Cable on the other hand lumps everyone in the same area together.

DreadPirateRoberts
11-08-2006, 03:09 PM
I think you have DSL and cable mixed up. A DSL connection is a straight shot to the DSLAM at your exchange.

Cable on the other hand lumps everyone in the same area together.

I thought the same thing, but then I did a little research (http://evolt.org/node/3301). You are correct in that you have a dedicated line to the Central Office, but it is shared from there, so it depends on the bandwidth at the Central Office. The sharing just starts in a different place.

Moonliner
11-08-2006, 03:20 PM
I thought the same thing, but then I did a little research (http://evolt.org/node/3301). You are correct in that you have a dedicated line to the Central Office, but it is shared from there, so it depends on the bandwidth at the Central Office. The sharing just starts in a different place.

But that is a very important difference. With cable everyone in your neighborhood shares the same bandwidth pot. What they do directly effects each other. With DSL the central office typically has thousands of connections so the effect is (or should be) much less pronounced. In fact with a half decent provider you should never see the type of slowdown that's common with cable.

Not to mention the fact that cable also goes to a central office and so in addition to neighbourhood issues, you also have all the same potential central office connection issues of DSL.

DreadPirateRoberts
11-08-2006, 03:25 PM
But that is a very important difference. With cable everyone in your neighborhood shares the same bandwidth pot. What they do directly effects each other. With DSL the central office typically has thousands of connections so the effect is (or should be) much less pronounced. In fact with a half decent provider you should never see the type of slowdown that's common with cable.

Not to mention the fact that cable also goes to a central office and so in addition to neighbourhood issues, you also have all the same potential central office connection issues of DSL.


I agree, the performance will depend the bandwidth of the central office. If it's halfway decent, you shouldn't see a degradation in performance with DSL. We have cable, and it may just be where we live, but I have yet to see a slowdown, people must not be online using much cable bandwidth in our area.

Snowflake
11-08-2006, 03:57 PM
Maybe it is just bandwith? IN any case, I only notice it when I'm tryin gto upoload a large file to the server for podcasting. I'll just do that in the middle of the night from now on.

When my roomie gets back later this month, we'll see what issues she or I may have since she will be using wireless in the apartment. I won't be wireless untill I can afford a new PC.

DreadPirateRoberts
11-08-2006, 04:07 PM
Maybe it is just bandwith? IN any case, I only notice it when I'm tryin gto upoload a large file to the server for podcasting. I'll just do that in the middle of the night from now on.

When my roomie gets back later this month, we'll see what issues she or I may have since she will be using wireless in the apartment. I won't be wireless untill I can afford a new PC.

It might be useful to try running a speedtest (http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/)from time to time. Pick a server geographically close to you. See if the speed test varies based on the time of day. This will also show the disparity between the download and upload speeds.

Snowflake
11-08-2006, 04:49 PM
It might be useful to try running a speedtest (http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/)from time to time. Pick a server geographically close to you. See if the speed test varies based on the time of day. This will also show the disparity between the download and upload speeds.

Very cool link, thanks for the tip!

Tramspotter
11-13-2006, 12:38 PM
I think you have DSL and cable mixed up. A DSL connection is a straight shot to the DSLAM at your exchange.

Cable on the other hand lumps everyone in the same area together.

You think eh? How diplomatic. No, you are right GD has them quite reversed.

With DSL your actual distance from a switching sub station is the main issue & at the edges of coverage the signal gets more and more unreliable untill they can't garantee faster speeds.

Oh were I to have a phone company switch close enough to my place to provide decent bandwith I would be all over it. But alas they have had my area listed as DSL "comming soon" for as long as I can remember bah!

Before the TimeWarner takeover I couldn't complain much about my cable internet service. It has in the past provided decen't speeds and whenever they did have slowdowns associated with more subscribers they would add another node to handle traffic beter. Now that they have merged yet again what do I get but additonal bandwith caps, crappy peak hour speeds and daily outtages etc. etc.

Screw you Time Warner I want to be rid of your shamefully poor service and roast your crap partner that freaking roadrunner this thanksgiving.

Moonliner
11-13-2006, 12:44 PM
Screw you Time Warner I want to be rid of your shamefully poor service and roast your crap partner that freaking roadrunner this thanksgiving.

I feel for you Tramspotter. monopolies never give good service. Then again I have access to cable, top-tier DSL (the POP is 1/4 away) and Silly speed fiber (Fios) and still can't get good service.

Betty
11-13-2006, 02:27 PM
That's a shame. We recently went through the conversion from Comcast - having had DSL, then cable with comcast and now road runner - RR is really really super fast with the dsl and then comcast cable - which we were downloading huge files very fast with. Pretty much, fast, faster and fastest.

knocking on wood now so I don't screw that all up. :)