The Beatles - Love

[Freaky Tiki]

Has anybody else purchased the Album? I bought it yesterday, and I think its amazing. For having songs I've heard countless times, its still a completely new experience. It's really awesome,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVE_%28The_Beatles_album%29

[Ghoulish Delight]

We just obtained it this weekend. I was a bit skeptical as I'm generally unimpressed with the whole "mashup" concept, the popularity of which was clearly a factor in the creation of this album. But I must say, in the hands of someone with the artistic vision and intimate knowledge of the music that George Martin has, it's far less obnoxious. I still view it as a novelty experience, but it definitely brought a smile to my face in many parts and does make me want to go catch Cirque.

[Freaky Tiki]

I wouldn't trust anybody else but George Martin to handle such a task. The score behind While My Guitar Gently Weeps is nothing short of amazing.

[Alex]

Has anybody here seen the show yet? We were in Vegas over the weekend and I considered trying to get tickets but we opted for Penn & Teller instead (great show).

The two people I know who saw it were both unimpressed (first time I've seen that happen with a Cirque show) but they'd never seen another Cirque show so I don't know if they just don't like it or don't like this specific show.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I saw the show when it was in previews back in June(?), two weeks before the official premiere. For perspective, I am a huge fan of Cirque du Soleil. LOVE was a fun show, but IMO it "suffers" from a recent trend in CdS shows (especially the permanent ones in Vegas) to lean more toward dance than acrobatics. Dance is all well and good, but I go to a circus to see something more than that.

LOVE is the first CdS show to be presented completely in the round. I think it worked well for this show and the newly built theater was very cleverly designed for that purpose. However, if you happen to have long legs, be sure to get an aisle seat or you will be cramped with your knees to your chest the entire show.

The sound design is amazing. Not only is the auditorium fitted with a state of the art sound system, each seat has its own set of speakers. They incorporate some of the Fab Four's in-studio dialog and at times you feel like you're standing (well, sitting) right in the middle of them. There were several places (most notably the authentic recordings of Beatles' screaming fans) in the show where the sound was so loud it literally was painful. Hopefully that was ironed out before the premiere, but if you have sensitive ears, you might do well to invest in some cotton.

There's little in the way of plot, but that's par for CdS. However, if you're familiar with the Beatles songs, you'll spot some familiar characters populating the stage.

I saw the show with my mom, step-dad, and two friends who are my age (late 30s). We all thoroughly enjoyed LOVE. So yes, I'd recommend it.

[Gemini Cricket]

I have the Love CD. I like it.
:)

[CoasterMatt]

LOVE sounds great in 5.1 - I can't wait to try it out

[Not Afraid]

William Shatner does "Blackbird".

Or, at least that's the impression I got after hearing a review from a friend.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

William Shatner does "Blackbird".

Or, at least that's the impression I got after hearing a review from a friend.Really? Perish the thought! This Beatles fan was mightily impressed. All the vocals are original, so huh??

[mousepod]

Worst. Show. Ever.

[innerSpaceman]

I'm going to listen to the CD tonight. Perhaps in a few moments (inspired by this thread).

Nothing will stop me from seeing the show. I am among the world's biggest Cirque fans. I am among the world's biggest Beatles fans. Nuff said. I intend to see it before winter is out.

Who's up for a LoTs Vegas Swanktacular for Valentine's Day???!!


In-seat speakers sounds like it might work for this show, but I didn't like it for Ka (once the novelty wore off). One of the best things about Cirque shows is the live music, and the decision to go recorded for the last two Vegas shows is a poor trend, imo.

Another trend is that I've enjoyed each Vegas show a little less than the one before it. Sorry, but O, spectacular as it is, could never top Mystere in its heydey. I love Zumanity, but it's not the WOW that's O. And while I enjoyed Ka, I think it's their weakest permanent production to date. If the trend sticks, that doesn't bode well for Love.

That said, uber-rare is the bad Cirque du Soleil. I saw their traveling show, Delerium, last month - - and it reminded me to never skip anything they do. In fact, the only one I actually didn't enjoy was Quidam.

So while Love may not be great ... it would take a lot of work to make it actually loathesome.

[mousepod]

Sorry, I hate to make my return to LoT all loathe-y and all, but seriously, it was a major disappointment.

First off, I'm a major Beatles fan, so when I read the piece about the show and especially the music, I was fascinated and eager to hear what Sir George and his kid came up with.

Actually, let's rewind a little farther back.

The Beatles wrote and performed a dozen great albums and a bunch of singles. During their brief reign, George Martin supervised the recording of many takes of all of their songs and even mixed alternate versions for singles, mono releases or to be forever consigned to the vaults.

Fast forward.

John Lennon is murdered.

Fast forward again - more than a decade later, the vaults are busted open and the three remaining Beatles decide to put together a trio of "Anthology" releases to coincide with a massive ABC-TV bio. They glue some new instruments and vocals on some otherwise fine demos written as solo pieces by their departed member and rather than present alternate takes or mixes, they released glued-together zombie versions of several different takes. [Here's where I get Rumsfeldian in my rhetoric] New version? Sure. Sanctioned by the living Beatles? Absolutely. New Beatles songs? No way. The Beatles benefit with big bucks -- a half million copies of the first Anthology album sold on the first day. The real fans benefit from the byproduct of the now-leaky vaults - lots of good bootlegs with the complete performances and George Martin mixes.

Fast forward again. George Harrison wants to do a Beatles Cirque show. Some ideas are proposed. Then he dies. Two Beatles left decide to go ahead with the idea, and bring in their original genius producer, even though he is now pretty much deaf. He brings in his son to help. On the Cirque side, they develop a mostly acrobatic and gymnastic dance show with a story that tells the history of the Beatles (more on that later, maybe). Then there's this article in Mojo magazine... which loves Love, and I was fascinated and eager to hear what Sir George and his kid came up with...


(part two of this long post after I watch last night's Daily Show...)

[Stan4dSteph]

Just bought my tickets for Cirque 2007! :D Montreal, May 2007.

Glad you liked Delirium, ism. You should add to my Rank the Swank thread (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=2983&highlight=delirium)!

[Kevy Baby]

I have the Love CD. I like it.
:)In short, you like Love

[Kevy Baby]

While I have not heard the album in its entirety, what I have heard I enjoyed. I will be purchasing the album.

[innerSpaceman]

You should add to my Rank the Swank thread (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=2983&highlight=delirium)!
And so I have.

And my initial reaction to the CD is ... 'meh'

Not that it wasn't interesting and fun, but I don't think I'll be listening to it again. It's a novelty, and really not much more than that. I most enjoyed when many Beatles tunes were fugued together. And I'm sure a hit of LSD would have helped.


But if I want Beatles alternates, the aforementioned Anthology CDs are really more interesting. And I've only listened to those once or twice because the best examples of The Beatles works are the released works of The Beatles.


I'm deeply saddened by mousepod's review of the show. Still ... I've got to see for myself. Cirque du Soleil has let me down only one time out of a dozen, so the odds still favor at least an evening of some enjoyment.


(But, um, it's nice to see ya back around, mousepod!)

[mousepod]

OK... part two.

While I am clearly a Beatles lover, I consider myself a Cirque liker. I was wowed by Alegria, my first show, and have never been transported by another Cirque show quite the same way since. It was kind of like my first acid trip - while later experiences were fun, exciting, and even terrifying, I was never able to capture that initial feeling of awe again. I had never experienced a "permanent" Cirque show - for some reason I've skipped La Nouba time and time again - and my only Vegas theater experience was the tacky and godawful EFX (Hello Dolly --> Phantom --> EFX ... trace Michael Crawford's trajectory, shall we?). I didn't think I'd be in Vegas anytime soon - I live in California, which is of course a world away - so I expected that I would purchase the 5.1 mix of Love when it was released, and choreograph the show in my mind's eye while I grooved on the couch to The Beatles.

Then two things happened. First, I found out that my whole family was going to get together in Las Vegas for Veteran's Day weekend. Then, the 4 song pre-release promo of Love found its way onto my iPod. I ordered a pair of tickets for Love for Saturday night ($275 for the pair including service charge for ninth row - the first several rows go for $325 a pair) and bought my ticket for Las Vegas. I'd be in from Thursday, Heather would arrive on Saturday - and we'd come back to SF on Sunday afternoon.

I listened to the preview tracks and was fairly impressed with the mash-up gimmick. Sure, the editing was sloppy in places, but it wasn't like the producer had the original tapes and millions of dollars of equipment at their disposal (if I did smilies, there'd be a big sarcastic something right about here). As someone who used to play "Beatles needle-drop" with his friends (you'd graze a Beatles record with the needle and identify the song), it is definitely fun in a train-spotting sort of way, but "Good Night" really never did belong with "Octopus's Garden", did it?

Anyway, I'm not a gambler and I'm not shopping too much these days (saving for a move to more Southern climes in the near future - beware), so Las Vegas was about strolling and people-watching for me. It became pretty depressing after the first 20 minutes (quick aside - when I try to describe Disney parks to folks who are familiar with the Vegas of the past 20 years, I tell them that Disney parks are built with money made from people's happiness...) I knew that I couldn't just stroll the strip on Friday night, so I talked my brother-in-law into going to see Ka with me. While I found the music in Ka to be a little "Cirque-y" for me (the mix of new age, "world", and neo-tribal that I have grown to expect from them), the show was a revelation. From the moment the show started, I was transported. It was over-the-top, for sure, but I was amazed by the costumes, the staging and the performers. It was a wonderful balance of "how do they do that?" with "holy crap!". I left the theater thinking, "If this is Cirque circa 2005, imagine how great Love is going to be, especially with Beatles music." To paraphrase the Fab Four, that was my first mistake.

part 3 (the final post in a series) in a bit. I need to clear my head and listen to my favorite new rock anthem for a few minutes.

[mousepod]

Last post - this is the one that actually contains my review of the show.
(By the way - it's nice to be back iSm)

Heather arrived early Saturday morning. We were all staying at the Venetian, and we had a little birthday luncheon for my niece, who had just turned one, in my parents' suite. We strolled down the strip (all the way to Mandalay Bay) and back in time for a casual bite at the Grand Luxe (or something like that) restaurant in the Venetian, which turned out to be a Cheesecake Factory. In all, seven of us were going to shows: 3 to O, 2 to catch Celine (for real), and 2 (that's us) to Love. The Mirage was right across the street, and since we were going to the late show, we ran upstairs for a disco nap.

The casino floor of the Mirage was fairly crowded. The Carnegie Deli (try the corned beef) on our left, the Siegfried and Roy Secret Garden somewhere off in the distance to the right - but straight ahead was the theater that would be the scene of my enrapturement -- or so I hoped.

Like Ka, the ushers and ticket takers were all in costume, to start the experience immediately, er, straight away. We were welcomed by a lovely meter maid. The show is presented in the round, as SzczerbiakManiac pointed out. The 6,000+ speakers that the press release talks about basically amount to the same stereo speakers in the seat back that they use in the Ka theater, plus a speaker pointing at you from the seat back in the person's chair directly in front of you. The inside of the theater is actually not that exciting. There are two 100-foot long movie screens on two opposing walls, and there are movable scrims that quarter the theater (which come out on occasion for some neat movie tricks). The pre-show music featured Beatles music with the lead vocals removed. I treated Heather to some unsolicited geek karaoke. Then the show started.

Love is a freaking mess. It tells a loose story of the history of the Beatles, starting with the rooftop concert (ask a Beatles fan to explain this to you), and flashing back to the Blitz (all of the Beatles were WWII babies) and progressing back up to the breakup. The show is a series of vignettes, all of which feature a few very talented people doing clearly difficult yet beautiful dance pieces while surrounded by a dozen or more people in loud costumes running around them being silly. It's as if someone not connected with Cirque saw Twyla Tharp's take on Billy Joel and said "Let's do this with Beatles music." Then, after the choreography was done, someone else said "We need to have a bunch of acrobats running around in cool costumes, too." Some of it was cool, but most of it either stretched my credulity to the limits (an extended trampoline sequence featuring a phone box - a breakdancer spinning on his head and then gesturing for applause - a loooong inline skate sequence) or was completely offensive. Not offensive in a "they've ruined the Beatles music" way, but offensive in a "Oh my f-ing god, that was seriously homophobic" way. (The rest of this paragraph contains spoilers). One "gag" featured three male characters entering the stage holding flowers. One woman comes out, walks up to the first man, takes his flowers and walks out on his arm. Then two women enter and both of them approach the second man, accept his flowers and walk out on his arms. The last man stands alone the stage with his bouquet when a muscular shirtless hunk enters opposite. The first man quickly hides his bouquet behind his back. Big laughs. Hi-friggin-larious.

One other bit worth spoiling is the vignette where four guys on wires enter the stage in black smoke-emitting costumes flapping broken umbrellas for wings. They thud onto the stage. A man in a lab coat comes out and yells at them: "Blackbird! Singing in the dead of night! Take these broken wings and learn to fly!" etc etc. as the birds attempt to fly. No cheap joke is omitted in this one, from the knee to the groin, to the finale, where the lab coated man snaps on a rubber glove and administers the punch line to one of the Blackbird's butts. Yay Beatles. I remember seeing Paul McCartney a few years ago in San Jose, and he explained to the audience that the song was about the Civil Rights Movement. Not anymore, Sir Paul.

I regret skipping Mystere and O. I want my money back. I want my evening back. Maybe I missed something, but it's gonna take a lot of 'splaining to get get me to reconsider my opinion.

End of rant.

"...and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make"

[Tref]

End of rant.

Hmm ... well, I think the record is quite good myself.

Can you keep a secret? On the Nineteenth track, at precisely, 3:42, I believe I may have heard the voice of God!

Do you doubt my words?

[innerSpaceman]

Hmmm, maybe I'll skip the show after all.


Don't be sorry you skipped Mystere, mr. mousepod. Unless you have a time machine, you have missed that shining moment by more than a decade. In its day, it was the best thing Cirque had ever done, and that show of the first few years remains - imo - the best thing Cirque has ever done.

Funny you should compare Ka to your first acid trip ... because all my friends who first saw Mystere with me that first night felt we were on LSD (and we were all quite familiar with the feeling).



Oh, but do regret you skipped O, a show many times magnificenter than Ka.


Perhaps Love simply has too many letters in the name. I'm beginning to believe it sucks, and at those ticket prices ... well, I just may skip it. Not decided yet. Very sad.

[flippyshark]

(saving for a move to more Southern climes in the near future - beware)

Southern USA, or Southern CA? You aren't moving to Florida, are you? :D

I've talked to a few inveterate Cirque freaks who rated Love as by far their least favorite Cirque show.

[innerSpaceman]

Hmmm, maybe I'll see it just to find out if it would replace Quidam on my most loathed list.

[innerSpaceman]

Reviving this thread to say I loved Love and that the two bits mousepod complained of are no longer in the show.


Good work, mousepod!



I'm glad I saw the post-mousepod version. Those two items do indeed sound lame. The show I saw was nothing but one visually spectacular set-piece after another, with knock-your-socks-off sound. I enjoyed it immensely and would see it again, and recommend it.

The "history of the Beatles" concept must have been so weak that I didn't even notice it existing. The show did indeed start with the WWII Blitz that John, Paul, George and Ringo were the following generation of, and there was an intermediary bit about the screaming girl rabid fandom. But otherwise I saw nothing of The Beatles history, and experienced only free-form Cirque performance adaptations of their music.


(I interpreted the chimneys in the opening number to be the sort of Liverpool imagery employed at the start of Yellow Submarine. There was nothing that particularly indicated it was supposed to be the roof of the rooftop concert.)

[mousepod]

I'm delighted that the homophobic bits were removed from the show. They had no place in it. Perhaps if I saw the current version (knowing what I know), I'd like it a whole lot better.

[Isaac]

Not offensive in a "they've ruined the Beatles music" way, but offensive in a "Oh my f-ing god, that was seriously homophobic" way. (The rest of this paragraph contains spoilers). One "gag" featured three male characters entering the stage holding flowers. One woman comes out, walks up to the first man, takes his flowers and walks out on his arm. Then two women enter and both of them approach the second man, accept his flowers and walk out on his arms. The last man stands alone the stage with his bouquet when a muscular shirtless hunk enters opposite. The first man quickly hides his bouquet behind his back. Big laughs. Hi-friggin-larious.
I'm pretty sure this was in the show because I remember a male character running away when another male character tried to accept his flowers. Maybe he wasn't shirtless in the performance that iSm and I saw last Saturday but I remember this 'gag'.

The storyline lacked direction,the visuals should have been much grander, and there should have been more variety in the acrobatics. Still, LOVE was a fun show (and I'm NOT a Beatles fan).

Zumanity and O are my 2 fav Cirque shows.


PS: EVERYONE MUST SEE SPAMALOT !! :D

[libraryvixen]

PS: EVERYONE MUST SEE SPAMALOT !! :D

Did you see Spamalot at the Wynn? If so, how was the theatre?

[wendybeth]

I want to see Spamalot a lot, but it's never going to come here. Might have to keep an eye on Seattle......

[Prudence]

It's in Seattle at the end of this month. (I have tickets for the 26th.)

[wendybeth]

Damn it. I mean, I'm glad for you- but, damn it. Heh heh....next time, let me know and we can both go, okay? Can you imagine how annoying we could be at a MP-inspired show?:evil:

[innerSpaceman]

test

[innerSpaceman]

Oh, btw, that was a test to see if I could post in this thread at all.

Apparently, there's some LoT gremlin that won't let me post about, well, I can't say it, in any thread.

Perhaps if I don't mention ... what I can't mention ... this post will go through.

Let's see, shall we?


(Pardon my experimentation)

[innerSpaceman]

Now what happens if I type "Beatles"?

[innerSpaceman]

Ok, that's not it. How about - Cirque du Soleil?

[Not Afraid]

that's just bizzah!

[innerSpaceman]

Ok, I can't figure out what about my post concering the Beatles and Cirque du Soleil the LoT gremlins don't like.

[innerSpaceman]

Oh, it's beyond weird. I just retyped my post from scratch, leaving out all formatting codes and the embedded quote, and I get a "Forbidden" message.

Weirder still, when I tried to enter the same post in the other Beatles thread, I get the same "Forbidden" message.


Yet I can post in other threads, and I can post other posts in this thread.



This is the weirdest LoT thing to happen to me since two April Fool's ago!

[Kevy Baby]

Oh, it's beyond weird. I just retyped my post from scratch, leaving out all formatting codes and the embedded quote, and I get a "Forbidden" message.

Weirder still, when I tried to enter the same post in the other Beatles thread, I get the same "Forbidden" message.


Yet I can post in other threads, and I can post other posts in this thread.



This is the weirdest LoT thing to happen to me since two April Fool's ago!Obviously VBulletin disagrees with your opinions.

[innerSpaceman]

Um, don't think I still don't think immediately of you, dear Kevy, when LoT gremlins have their fun fu<king with me.

[€uroMeinke]

I suspect somewhere in that post of yours you've discovered the magic keystrokes that block posting - perhaps you can pass your post along in an email and see if someone else can post it?

[Isaac]

From the mind of innerSpaceman:
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The storyline lacked direction,the visuals should have been much grander, and there should have been more variety in the acrobatics.
I'd have to agree with most of these critcisms. I despise the trend in Cirque du Soleil for theater in the round. It severely limits the level of grandeur that can be presented. This is the third such show of theirs I've seen in short order, after Delerium and Corteo, and I'm sick of this limitation. Love did fantastic things with lighting and nifty effects, but I was aware of the limits of basically looking at the audience on the other side as the main backdrop of the show.

And yeah, the acrobatics were less varied and the circus elements were generally weaker than usual. I knew this going in. Franklyl, it's been true of every Las Vegas show after Mystere. The impressive acrobatic and circus acts are found in the traveling shows (Corteo, for instance, was full of 'em), but the Vegas shows are far more concentrated on choreography, style and gimmick. Compared to the traveling shows, I find "O", Ka and even Zumanity lacking in the death defying, thrilling acrobatics that Cirque became famous for. That Love followed this trend to a weaker acrobatic level was no surprise to me.

It was pretty and entertaining and interesting to experience. But after the opening number, I don't think I was particularly impressed with any "circus" act performed.

Eh, I still liked it. It didn't have an original score either, which is a big draw to me of the Cirque shows, too. I liked it for what it was ... which was admittedly a lesser animal than many of its fellow Cirque productions.


That's not to say it was bad. Less than the best of Cirque du Soleil is hardly "bad."

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[innerSpaceman]

That was without my prologue about the theater that hosts Spamalot in Vegas. I will now attempt to post just that section ... and - if it takes me to the "Forbidden" error page again ... we have inadvertently discovered what an admin told me is a secret set of characters that prevents posting.

[innerSpaceman]

The Grail Theater

[innerSpaceman]

as it's called, was a plain and simple affair,

[innerSpaceman]

but the entry/exit area was cute,

[Kevy Baby]

Um, don't think I still don't think immediately of you, dear Kevy, when LoT gremlins have their fun fu<king with me.Are you still holding the April Fools Day thing against me? Let me remind you:

I was an unknowing victim of the prank - not the perpetrator of it. I had no prior knowledge of that incident. I am not the responsible party.

I just happened to figure it out quickly and played along with it.

Neither have I EVER committed a board hack - I don't have those kind of skills.

Get over it - it was a long ago.

[innerSpaceman]

with lots

[innerSpaceman]

Ssshhh kevy, I'm busy trying to figure out the secret word combo that cannot be posted on the Lot. I'm parsing my prologue out phrase by phrase, and I think I've got it.

[innerSpaceman]

of Python

[innerSpaceman]

gags

[innerSpaceman]

ok, that's it. You cannot post the last word of my 2nd to last post followed by the single word of my last post.

In other words the synonym of The Giant Snake Chokes cannot be posted.


Wow.

[CoasterMatt]

The Giant Snake Chokes... I think they opened for Iron Maiden a few years ago

[€uroMeinke]

ok, that's it. You cannot post the last word of my 2nd to last post followed by the single word of my last post.

In other words the synonym of The Giant Snake Chokes cannot be posted.


Wow.

cool - I wonder if the same is true for other vBulletin message boards...

[Not Afraid]

WOW! I'm an admin and can't do it.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

WOW! I'm an admin and can't do it.

Maybe GD can disable ModSecurity and see if that makes a difference

Here's a link that might be useful (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167121).

[Snowflake]

cool - I wonder if the same is true for other vBulletin message boards...

Nope, at least not on Mice Chat!

245

and I can't either on LoT.

[Alex]

Further testing shows it isn't that exact phrase, the word "python" followed by a space is enough to trigger it.

[Not Afraid]

I didn't do it.

[Alex]

Isn't an issue at MousePad either. And searching online isn't finding anything so it seems to be unique.

It is case insensitive.

Also it would appear to have been introduced after September 15, 2006 (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showpost.php?p=96713&postcount=14), when CP was the last person to use the word "python" without immediately following it by punctuation or a line break.

[innerSpaceman]

So I can type Monty Python. But can't type Monty (You Know What) with a space after it? How frelling weird!

[Stan4dSteph]

I blame FEJ.

[Alex]

Oh, and if you want to test it without having a lot of test posts show up. Type your test in the Quick Reply box and then rather than clicking "Post Quick Reply" click "Go Advanced". That also triggers the Forbidden message. If you get the advanced page then the text you entered will post.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

python_ is a programming language, I think something is catching the keyword and kicking it out.

[Alex]

But then it should do so generically on vBulletin.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

But then it should do so generically on vBulletin.

I think it goes though Apache first, so I'm guessing it's in Apache.

[Alex]

Yep, that's what I just realized.

[Alex]

Note that putting python_ in any submitted form on LoT gets this result (search page, for example).

[DreadPirateRoberts]

This reminds me of BTD's signature

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4654/exploitsofamomresizedyd8.png

[Alex]

Can't quickly find anything on this specific method of producing the error but searching "apache forbidden python" will get you plenty of examples of it. Looks like it something in the Apache httpd.conf.

Don't know if that means going through the LoT hosting company or if that is something under direct control. (Assuming of course if something so random is worth the fix).

Personally, Lisa and I would probably be fine with anything that makes discussing Monty Not-Funny more difficult.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

We aren't the only ones. Here's what I found on the vbulletin site:

Error sending PMs with the word Python_ in them? (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207804&highlight=python)

http://www.vbulletin.com/go/modsecurity

[Alex]

Damn. Your Google-fu is more powerful than mine today.

I just can't believe that I didn't immediately notice that it was a server error and not a vBulletin or PHP error.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

Damn. Your Google-fu is more powerful than mine today.


Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in awhile.