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Snowflake
01-17-2007, 10:22 AM
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Angelus Rosedale Cemetary
1831 W. Washington Blvd
Los Angeles, CA
January 14, 2007
http://angelusrosedale.com/ (http://angelusrosedale.com/)


The Lowdown
A walking tour with author and historian Allan Ellenberger

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The Gig
Grave Hunting and just exploring

The Scene
Cool and crisp we met up at Angelus Rosedale cemetary for a walking tour and lunch meet with some film friends. Having been to a memorial service the night before, this seemed fitting in a funky sort of way.

Rosedale is one of the oldest cemetaries in Los Angeles and while light in the way of celebrity graves, many LA centric historic people are interred.

Rosedale is famed (and rightly so) for being one of the only cemetaries that was open to anyone of any race, creed or religion. Unlike the ultra snooty (at the time) Hollywood Memorial Park which would not accept those of jewish faith or those of color, Rosedale was open to all. Hence the mix from Hattie McDaniell (of Gone with the Wind fame) and Dooley Wilson (of Casablanca fame) to Anna Mae Wong (first Chinese American star, and she was gorgeous, BTW) to Todd Browning and Marshall Neilan (early film directors).

Apparently the link to Hollywood is still very apparent, Rosedale is recognizable as a location for just about any TV show needing a picturesque cemetary, this more than fits the bill. BTW, Hattie McDaniell's house and the Six Feet Under house are a hop skip and jump away from here.

The cemetary IS old, I saw grave markers dating back to the 1830s. Maddening to the amateur archaologist are the markers that only say "JAW" or JAW Jr" or "MOTHER."

It's no secret I love funarary art and Rosedale has many interesting markers, crypts and pyramids! I've posted my pics here (http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p7/rudyfan/) and have not had the time to caption them all, but they're pretty self-explanatory.

Well worth an afternoon visit, Rosedale is hilly and in some sections run down (see my pic of the family crypt of the Wards), many monuments are simply stunning, and no matter where you walk there is something interesting to see. The layout of the graves is also very weird in some areas, not lined up in perfect little rows, there are empty spaces and them clumps of graves facing in every direction so how can you tell where the bodies are? There is also a Confederate section (CA was a Nothern State, but CA civil war veterans are laid to rest here). Sad to see were the many graves to youn people (assume gang killings) and always sad are the graves for the infants. As it was Sunday the Columbarium was closed, but it is housed in a beautiful building. Hopefully my next trip, I feel Rosedale is well worth a return visit.

If you are hungry when you leave, just hang a right out of the cemetary, turn right on Normandie and just past Pico on the right is a greek place called Uncle Cristos. not much in the way of swank, platic plates and such, but the food portions were very generous and delicious. Uncle Cristos has parking in the rear, and a valet if it is crowded (which this Sunday after church, it was). There is also a Greek market in the placeif you need pastries or supplies for greek food.

Finally, if you are serious about grave hunting in LA, at least for celebs. After all, aren't dead celebs the best kind? My friend Allan's book is a great resource Celebrities in Los Angeles Cemetaries: A Directory (http://www.amazon.com/Celebrities-Los-Angeles-Cemeteries-Directory/dp/0786409835/sr=8-3/qid=1169054327/ref=sr_1_3/002-9946697-7252845?ie=UTF8&s=books)

Motorboat Cruiser
01-17-2007, 10:27 AM
Wow, one of the few that I haven't visited yet. Must find my way there one of these days. Thanks for the report! :)

DreadPirateRoberts
01-17-2007, 10:47 AM
Great report! In answer to your question about picture023.jpg, that's a Shriner's (http://www.shrinershq.org/)symbol.

Snowflake
01-17-2007, 11:29 AM
Great report! In answer to your question about picture023.jpg, that's a Shriner's (http://www.shrinershq.org/)symbol.


Great! Thanks! I thought it might be, but I was not sure. There were many many markers with the Masons and (for the ladies) is it eastern star? I guess being a Mason or Shriner or OddFellows is a dying breed.

DreadPirateRoberts
01-17-2007, 11:32 AM
Great! Thanks! I thought it might be, but I was not sure. There were many many markers with the Masons and (for the ladies) is it eastern star? I guess being a Mason or Shriner or OddFellows is a dying breed.

I'm sure some day there will be a question posted on a message board asking about this peculiar LoT symbol on a grave marker.

Ghoulish Delight
01-17-2007, 11:38 AM
I'm sure some day there will be a question posted on a message board asking about this peculiar LoT symbol on a grave marker.:decap:

DreadPirateRoberts
01-17-2007, 11:39 AM
:decap:

VGDM (Visible GD Mojo)

Snowflake
01-17-2007, 11:42 AM
Also, one cool remnant of LA's past is the line of Palm trees through the cemetary. According to the historian in our group, the Red Line ran a car through the cemetary and had a regular stop along the palm tree route for those attending services at Rosedale. It was from what I gather a regular stop, but all the remains are the line of palms.

Ghoulish Delight
01-17-2007, 12:31 PM
It was from what I gather a regular stop, but all the remains are the line of palms.Perhaps not for long (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15287692/)

The palm tree is an icon I would not be sad to see disappear. What a worthless piece of foliage

mousepod
01-17-2007, 12:37 PM
Perhaps not for long (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15287692/)

The palm tree is an icon I would not be sad to see disappear. What a worthless piece of foliage

The Mighty Oak! A new symbol for Los Angeles! Who wants to go in with me on a bistro?

Kevy Baby
01-17-2007, 10:56 PM
Great! Thanks! I thought it might be, but I was not sure. There were many many markers with the Masons and (for the ladies) is it eastern star? I guess being a Mason or Shriner or OddFellows is a dying breed.Masons for the men
Eastern Star for the ladies
DeMolay for boys 13-21
Jobs Daughters for girls 13-? - for the girls with Masonic ancestory
Rainbow for Girls for girls 12-? - for the girls without Masonic ancestory (though I knew many Rainbow girls WITH Masonic family members).
Shriners are for men, but I am not sure what the exact relationship was with Masonry

I was a very active member of DeMolay for many years. I was knighted, so you can call me Sir Kev.

Prudence
01-17-2007, 11:44 PM
Shriners are for men, but I am not sure what the exact relationship was with Masonry


There are different "paths" one can follow within Masonry if one chooses Scottish Rite and York Rite are the big ones, I believe. There are also related organizations within Masonry - sort of like clubs for masons. Shriners (Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine) is one, Eastern Star (which accepts men and women as members) is another.

This is about all I know, based on the placemats at the local masonic center. Because of school I haven't been too involved.

Betty
01-18-2007, 06:29 AM
The photos are really great. They just don't make grave markers the way they used to.

Not Afraid
01-18-2007, 09:37 AM
Great photos! I want to visit now.

Snowflake
01-18-2007, 10:11 AM
Great photos! I want to visit now.


Well, I want to go back, too!

BTW, I misspoke, the Greek Place is Papa Cristos (http://www.papacristo.com/) and I think would be well worth a second visit too. Somehow or other, I did not have any baklava, what's wrong with that picture?

katiesue
01-18-2007, 11:30 AM
I was a very active member of DeMolay for many years. I was knighted, so you can call me Sir Kev.


I'm past Honored Queen of Bethel #46 (Job's Daughters) - you can just call me Your Higness. ;)

I'm not sure what the max age limit was for Job's. Once you have been Queen then you're not really an active member anymore. There weren't any girls over 18 that I reacall though. My mom is in Eastern Star.