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Moonliner
01-23-2007, 04:40 PM
So who's going to watch tonight?

I might have to tune in for a bit just to see Mr. Bush twisting in the wind. I also want to see how much division there is within his own party. The applause shots are always good for that.

Does anyone know who is going to give the response this year?

Alex
01-23-2007, 05:23 PM
I believe it is James Webb giving the response (I heard the person being interviewed on NPR this morning -- "I don't intend to give a partisan response...I will highlight the Democrats' disagreement with is Iraq policy" is what I remember and think it was Webb but now I'm doubting myself.

Oh, and I don't plan to watch. I generally read the transcripts because watching is too focused on how well he says it (particularly in the analysis) and not enough on what is said).

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 05:33 PM
:rolleyes:
Democrats are trying to drown out President George Bush's State of the Union message by making clear he and his Republican allies are no longer in charge of national policy, especially on Iraq.

"They don't have a plan," Democratic Senator Jim Webb told reporters in a preview of his party's response to Bush's speech. "What they have put on the table is more a tactical adjustment."

Democrats have not agreed on a plan for Iraq either, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the burden of finding a solution rests on the White House.

"The president is the commander in chief. We don't have the authority" to execute a plan for bringing American troops home from Iraq, Reid said.


Wait- he's not in charge.

But.....it's his job to find a solution?

Link (http://www.breitbart.com/news/na/paBushtues21stateofuniondemocrats.html)

Utter fools.

CoasterMatt
01-23-2007, 05:34 PM
Jesus still loves you, Nephy :)

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 05:36 PM
Loves them too- good thing, because I don't.

Seriously- idiots. Do they KNOW how idiotic they sound???

Every day since then, the Democrats have hammered home the message that achieving bipartisanship must be as much a part of Bush's agenda as proposals on the war, energy independence and healthcare.


Oh-you mean like the way the dems silenced the GOP when they took Congress? Bi-partisan to a dem means you do what they want- and shut up like a good pet.

Gah! :rolleyes:

Gemini Cricket
01-23-2007, 05:39 PM
I'm not going to watch. I can't bear listening to the man speak.

Not Afraid
01-23-2007, 05:39 PM
If I watch, my eyes may get stuck in a rolling motion.

Especially after we had such good new from the latest BBC Poll (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6288933.stm).

CoasterMatt
01-23-2007, 05:40 PM
If I watch, my eyes may get stuck in a rolling motion.
PLEASE get that on video!

wendybeth
01-23-2007, 05:40 PM
The Dems just took over Congress, and I don't think the Repubs have been too terribly silent about ****.

Betty
01-23-2007, 05:43 PM
If you're going to watch - maybe this/ (http://www.drinkinggame.us/) will make it easier.

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 05:46 PM
The Dems just took over Congress, and I don't think the Repubs have been too terribly silent about ****.


It's not about silence in general -it's about the fact that the dems are hypocritical idiots who don't even seem to know what the other hand is doing-

Loathesome bunch- gak! :rolleyes:

wendybeth
01-23-2007, 05:47 PM
Lol, Betty!:snap:

wendybeth
01-23-2007, 05:49 PM
It's not about silence in general -it's about the fact that the dems are hypocritical idiots who don't even seem to know what the other hand is doing-

Loathesome bunch- gak! :rolleyes:

Getting carried away with that paintbrush again, there.

Not Afraid
01-23-2007, 05:49 PM
All cats are grey.

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 05:53 PM
Getting carried away with that paintbrush again, there.

No- when I think of the dems in congress I think nothing gracious or polite and damn it I am tired of them.

The hate and loathing for Bush is virulent here and other places- I have the same feeling for the dems.

Tit for tat goose and gander!

In 1994 they bitch about not having a loud enough voice in the Contract with America agenda- so they SAY they will not do the same- then as soon as they get in there they do the SAME thing and shut the GOP out of the first 100 hours as much as possible. HYPOCRITES!

wendybeth
01-23-2007, 05:54 PM
Well, we've felt the same way for quite some time now, so I do understand.

However- WE WON!!!!!! Deal.

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 05:59 PM
No- when I think of the dems in congress I think nothing gracious or polite and damn it I am tired of them.

The hate and loathing for Bush is virulent here and other places- I have the same feeling for the dems.

Tit for tat goose and gander!

In 1994 they bitch about not having a loud enough voice in the Contract with America agenda- so they SAY they will not do the same- then as soon as they get in there they do the SAME thing and shut the GOP out of the first 100 hours as much as possible. HYPOCRITES!

They don't have a plan for Iraq- but they whine about Bush's. If you don't like it- tell us what YOUR plan is- but noooooo......it is much more fun for them to point fingers. One says Bush isn't in charge- another says he is- so it's all his fault.

Gak!:rolleyes:

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 06:00 PM
Well, we've felt the same way for quite some time now, so I do understand.

However- WE WON!!!!!! Deal.


And YOU get to deal with our complaints too- God knows we listened to enough from your side. Now they won- let's see them do something other than be fools and idiots with Bush Derangement Syndrome.


So deal with that as well-

..and if and whan you lose again- I guess you will have to deal with that too.

Cest la vie!

wendybeth
01-23-2007, 06:05 PM
I may vote for Hillary after all.;):evil:

Gemini Cricket
01-23-2007, 06:08 PM
I love Hillary.
I wonder if the Dems will drown out Bush again this year with rebellious applause...

Isaac
01-23-2007, 06:29 PM
I'll set my MOXI to record it. Though I hate George Bush JR I just have to listen to him speak cause he's such a fool! Here's a few jems he's sputtered over the past few years:

"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis.

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H.

"They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark.

"Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C.


Here's one of my personal favorite GB JR quotes:


"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C.

BarTopDancer
01-23-2007, 06:54 PM
Jesus hates me ;)\

Good thing I have an in with the Pope.

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 07:17 PM
Damn SOTUS is interrupting AI time- grrr, better be on afterwards.

Bleaugh- speeches. gak

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 07:18 PM
I may vote for Hillary after all.;):evil:

I am often compelled to believe her- then I wake up.

Kevy Baby
01-23-2007, 07:22 PM
The Democratic party is filled with a bunch of idiots.

Just like the Republican party.

Gemini Cricket
01-23-2007, 07:24 PM
There are two colors of inept.

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 07:34 PM
Mauve and fuschia?

Moonliner
01-23-2007, 07:49 PM
Oh, and I don't plan to watch. I generally read the transcripts

The one thing I watch for is the reactions. For example, I know now that Bush's plan to give families a 15k tax break for health care is DOA. The republicans applauded while the dems sat stone faced. You won't get that from the transcripts.

Alex
01-23-2007, 07:53 PM
You needed to see the reaction to know that?

The applause and silence is just part of the staging. They all know who they are supposed to watch to see what the reaction is supposed to be.

€uroMeinke
01-23-2007, 08:04 PM
I'm waiting for the day the President whips us through his Power Point deck - really, who does speeches anymore in the real world?

innerSpaceman
01-23-2007, 08:09 PM
I listened to about half an hour, and couldn't stand any more. Sorry.

Nephythys
01-23-2007, 08:27 PM
heh- more than I did. Not a word.

wendybeth
01-23-2007, 08:51 PM
I listened to about half an hour, and couldn't stand any more. Sorry.
Fess up- you were playing the State of the Union drinking game and got pasted, right?

innerSpaceman
01-23-2007, 09:28 PM
oh, that would have been waaay more fun. When do you have to take a shot? Every time George embarrases himself, everytime he tells a flat-out lie, or every time he seems incredibly delusional?

wendybeth
01-23-2007, 11:18 PM
If you're going to watch - maybe this/ (http://www.drinkinggame.us/) will make it easier.


Many thanks to Betty for this one!

An excerpt:
EVENT

# of Drinks

Every time he says....

“The state of our union is strong…” (or some version of this)
1
+1 if he breaks down in tears
"the American people" 1
troops
small 1
surge quick 1
Iraq 1
Baghdad 1
"sectarian violence" 1 Car Bomb
recipe (http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink7774.html)
Iran
1
terror (however it’s pronounced)
small 1
detainees
1, with your hands behind your back
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 2 (+1 if he pronounces it correctly)
Saddam Hussein or Saddam
1
elections 1 if referring to another country's
2 if referring to the 2006 midterms
freedom 1
Homeland 1 if followed by "Security"; 2 if another context
"Bring it on" Arm-wrestle the person next to you; loser drinks
“nukular”
1
bipartisan or bipartisanship
2 (+1 if followed by giggle or chuckle)
"addicted to oil"
shot of extra-virgin olive oil
Medicare or Medicaid wait a really long time to get a drink you really need
education 1 (+1 if mispronounced)
"human-animal hybrid" What do centaurs and mermaids drink, anyway??
"illegal immigration" 1 shot of cerveza/tequila
God (or any euphemism for God)
2
sacrifice 1 - in the context of the armed forces
2 - for civilians
"fiscal discipline" or "smaller government" or "responsible government" if you're a:
congressman/lobbyist: Cristal, laugh derisively
private/other public sector employee: Andre, look glum

"tax burden" 1
hydrogen shout "Oh, the humanity!", take 1 shot
ethanol*
* With all of the ethanol "serious players" of this game will consume, they will be their own alternative energy source by about 10pm. We think you can figure this one out...
evil or evildoers 2
Ban Ki Moon shot of kimchi-infused vodka
Mark Foley one shot of Scotch, aged 16 years
"macaca" Invite George Allen for a drink - he doesn't have anything better to do...
"Don't mess with Texas!"
Locate the nearest Texan; mess with him/her; then drink

Isaac
01-23-2007, 11:26 PM
Holy crap!

At that rate we'd all be passed out before the address was over!

Motorboat Cruiser
01-24-2007, 12:58 AM
There's a recipe for alcohol poisoning.

Motorboat Cruiser
01-24-2007, 01:23 AM
So, he is going to balance the budget, but not raise taxes or end the war. And on top of that, he is going to somehow miraculously fund all of this other stuff he intends to do. Is that pretty much it?

What a strange ritual, this SOTU address. The Republicans know that none of the stuff they like is going to get done. The Dems know that none of the stuff they like is going to get done. The president knows that none of it is going to get done, and finally, we know it isn't going to get done. And through all of this bullsh*t, there is mandatory applause after every friggin sentence. How bipartisan of everyone. :rolleyes:

It's damn near comical, if it weren't so repulsive.

Alex
01-24-2007, 08:21 AM
When I am president I will return to the pre-Wilsonian practice of just having the state of the union report delivered to congress in written form.

And since the constitution doesn't require it to be annual I'll put it off (like I do all report writing) until absolutely required (and send it on my last day in office after pulling an all nighter and having a midnight breakfast at IHOP).

Snowflake
01-24-2007, 08:24 AM
oh, that would have been waaay more fun. When do you have to take a shot? Every time George embarrases himself, everytime he tells a flat-out lie, or every time he seems incredibly delusional?

So that would be every time he opens his mouth, right? I would not last 5 minutes.;)