View Full Version : A possible substitute for the Beat Hotel?
Not Afraid
02-28-2007, 08:17 PM
One of my clients turned me on to this place. It's just what the Doctor ordered to replace the Beat (if it is, in fact replacable). I've also called them about Coachells, but we'll see. If there is room, it will be a miracle.
I present The Desert Star Bungalows Palm Springs. (http://www.palmspringsbungalows.com/stay/rates.htm)
LSPoorEeyorick
02-28-2007, 08:27 PM
Yeah, we're in. Happy Columbus Day.
lindyhop
02-28-2007, 08:52 PM
I think I've walked by this place. It looks very familiar.
Ghoulish Delight
02-28-2007, 10:14 PM
But would we have the option of wearing clothing in our rooms?
So is the Beat Hotel officially defunct, never to revive again?
Not Afraid
03-01-2007, 10:12 AM
So is the Beat Hotel officially defunct, never to revive again?
We don't know and they don't know. Things are up in the air at the moment. It may return - and I hope it does, but at this point it is non-operational.
Babette
03-01-2007, 12:22 PM
What about bungalow #6? The "View Bungalows" only shows #1-5 & 7, but a pic of the amenities clearly shows a door marked 6. Curious.
I think we'd have to go for #4 so NM could grill.
innerSpaceman
03-01-2007, 01:27 PM
Allowing for the disqualifier of never having been to the real Beat Hotel ... I must ask what in the world is beatnikish or swankified about this desert row of substandard motel rooms posing as "bungalows?"
mousepod
03-01-2007, 02:19 PM
Heather and I stayed here (http://www.korakia.com/) Xmas '99. We'd go back in a heartbeat.
Snowflake
03-01-2007, 02:32 PM
Heather and I stayed here (http://www.korakia.com/) Xmas '99. We'd go back in a heartbeat.
Oh, wow, fabulous
innerSpaceman
03-01-2007, 02:37 PM
Oh yeah, now we're talkin!
Are the hookas provided, or must we bring our own?
JWBear
03-01-2007, 04:32 PM
One of my clients turned me on to this place. It's just what the Doctor ordered to replace the Beat (if it is, in fact replacable). I've also called them about Coachells, but we'll see. If there is room, it will be a miracle.
I present The Desert Star Bungalows Palm Springs. (http://www.palmspringsbungalows.com/stay/rates.htm)
Swankadelic!! :snap:
Ghoulish Delight
03-01-2007, 04:36 PM
What about bungalow #6? The "View Bungalows" only shows #1-5 & 7, but a pic of the amenities clearly shows a door marked 6. Curious.
I think we'd have to go for #4 so NM could grill.
Hey, he ain't the only one who knows what to do with fire + meat.
Not Afraid
03-01-2007, 06:49 PM
Allowing for the disqualifier of never having been to the real Beat Hotel ... I must ask what in the world is beatnikish or swankified about this desert row of substandard motel rooms posing as "bungalows?"
Well, first of all, it is very similar to the Beat Hotel in many ways. Plus, it's pretty darn cool - and affordable. Plus, it only has 7 rooms, which I would hope we could fill and have the place to ourselves.
The hotel MP linked to has been on my list for a while. It's too expensive for a group thing - plus is is too large for my taste in desert swankings. I like when we have the entire hotel booked for our own purposes. The hotel I mentioned earlier seems to fit the bill, imho.
Babette
03-01-2007, 08:28 PM
Allowing for the disqualifier of never having been to the real Beat Hotel ... I must ask what in the world is beatnikish or swankified about this desert row of substandard motel rooms posing as "bungalows?"bah, curmudgeon :p It is all about your state of mind
Ghoulish Delight
03-01-2007, 08:31 PM
bah, curmudgeon :p It is all about your state of mind
And Korean food.
LSPoorEeyorick
03-01-2007, 08:31 PM
$400 rooms? No thanks. We can swing two nights at $180, but not any higher. Not while we're paying for two weddings.
I think the first ones are perfectly swanky enough. They definitely remind me of the Beat more, anyway, and I thought that was what this was about!
Babette
03-01-2007, 08:32 PM
And Korean food.And cocktail carts.
LSPoorEeyorick
03-01-2007, 08:33 PM
And cocktail carts.
And cult robes.
Ghoulish Delight
03-01-2007, 08:35 PM
And tasting museum.
Babette
03-01-2007, 08:41 PM
And sticky notes.
Cadaverous Pallor
03-01-2007, 08:44 PM
And large balls.
Babette
03-01-2007, 08:45 PM
And bathing caps.
€uroMeinke
03-01-2007, 10:01 PM
Allowing for the disqualifier of never having been to the real Beat Hotel ... I must ask what in the world is beatnikish or swankified about this desert row of substandard motel rooms posing as "bungalows?"
As some have already alluded...You had to be there ;)
innerSpaceman
03-01-2007, 10:25 PM
yeah, the alluding is alluring ... but also seems a tad re-capture-lightning-in-a-bottle-ish.
Babette
03-01-2007, 10:27 PM
yeah, the alluding is alluring ... but also seems a tad re-capture-lightning-in-a-bottle-ish.Like the "Bed of Truth" :rolleyes:
LSPoorEeyorick
03-02-2007, 07:49 AM
But, see, we planned to re-capture that lightning every year for the rest of, well, forever. An annual creative retreat and general blowout. And with the loss of our location, we do need to find an alternative if we're going to continue with discovering our own creative continents on Columbus Day. And I'd prefer an alternative in the same vicinity, with the same general feel (if not quite as uniquely historical in decor and feel. Nothing will ever *be* the Beat Hotel.)
innerSpaceman
03-02-2007, 09:04 AM
And that's why I'm just not getting it. Nothing will ever BE the Bed of Truth.
But, hey, I wasn't there. I'll chalk up my not getting it to complete asstard ignorance.
Ghoulish Delight
03-02-2007, 09:09 AM
The beauty of it is that, at the very core, we got a weekend of sitting in and around a pool, eating, drinking, and relaxing with friends. If that's all we end up with the second go around, then it's a success. All of the other creativity and hilarity was gravy that'd I certainly hope will result again, but I wouldn't be out to recreate it. All I'd want to recreate are the conditions that lead to it.
Not Afraid
03-02-2007, 01:44 PM
Sadly, it sounds like ISM isn't going to be joining us this year.
Babette
03-02-2007, 11:06 PM
I don't think iSm is saying he doesn't want to go. I think he is on the outside looking in (a place I often fit into when the bed of truth is discussed). He has the right prespective to remind us that whenever something occurs as naturally legendary, it cannot be recaptured. You can reenact the place and people, but never the spontaneity. If you expect a repeat experience, it will be forced or you may be let down. That does not mean you can't create an annual event with similar elements. That does not mean you won't have another amazing time. It just means it will most likely be different.
Not Afraid
03-02-2007, 11:35 PM
That does not mean you won't have another amazing time. It just means it will most likely be different.
I sure hope it would be different! It would be very dull if it was exactly the same stuff - even if it was was fun the first time.
Disneyphile
03-06-2007, 02:51 PM
Ooooh, nice!!! :D I like it!
CoasterMatt
03-07-2007, 01:18 PM
Asstard The Ignorant sounds like an awesome wrestler name...
Ghoulish Delight
03-22-2007, 02:08 PM
Okay, now that we're all State side again, I'm digging this up. So, forgetting decisions on specifics and the uncertainty of the Beat Hotel, is there a group of people committed to doing something in the form of a beat retreat that weekend? 'cause CP and I had initially planned to use that as a jumping off point for our two week sojourn eastward to Chicago and New York. We want to start booking plane tickets and such, but that kinda hinges on knowing whether this is actually happening. If not, we'll just tack the weekend onto the front of the two weeks and maybe make it to Boston as well.
€uroMeinke
03-22-2007, 04:10 PM
Well, I am one of the few souls who have Columbus Day off, so I probably will be doing something. I'd love to do another Beat Retreat, so I'll try to expend some energy to make it happen - i.e. find an alternate venue. It certainly won't be like the last. As for getting to the specifics, that won't be happening anytime soon, since now our attentions will be focused on Coachella and figuring out how and where we'll be staying for that - but who know perhaps a new venue might emerge from the experience.
Ghoulish Delight
03-22-2007, 04:34 PM
No worries, no need for specifics. Just a yay-or-nay whether people want to do something. Whatever form the beat retreat takes will certainly benefit from as little advanced planning as possible, whereas our trip, being the obsessive planners that we are, needs more structure. But just knowing whether to block those dates out is all the info we need on that end.
LSPoorEeyorick
03-22-2007, 08:03 PM
We're in for Columbus Day Two: Electric Boogaloo
blueerica
03-22-2007, 11:09 PM
I'm down for Locking and Popping. Oh wait, we're not talking about Electric Boogaloo... Damn. Let me know enough in advance and I'll let you know what's up with me. Though this year seems fairly slammed. (and it's not even April yet)
€uroMeinke
03-23-2007, 07:42 AM
Columbus Day is on October 8 this year - ideally we'd start celebrating on Saturday the 6th. I'll put it on the LoT calendar.
Not Afraid
07-08-2007, 11:35 AM
I've put in some calls to both the Beat and the Desert Star to see what is available.
Babette
07-08-2007, 11:45 AM
Does that mean there is once again a phone for the Beat?
Not Afraid
07-08-2007, 11:45 AM
There was at least a valid voice mail.
LSPoorEeyorick
07-09-2007, 06:42 AM
Well, keep us posted!
Has there been any further progression on this front? I was just noticing that we're only about two months away and probably need to start solidifying plans.
I'm happy to help with finding/booking a place, but we need to figure out what we want to do.
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 09:45 AM
The Beat is still out of service, apparently. The I've tried to contact the alternate hotel a few times via phone and email. I even got an email response from them saying "I'm sorry we haven't gotten back to you....we'll call you this afternoon" but they never called. Maybe someone else can have better luck. I having trouble finding time in my life to coordinate this - or much of anything else -- at the moment, so I haven't had time to hound them any more.
Ghoulish Delight
08-14-2007, 09:51 AM
I like the idea we kicked around at dinner the other evening of changing things up and going mountains instead of desert. Rent out a private lodge with several rooms. I think the change of scenery would be a refreshing reminder that recreating the specifics of the past is neither feasible nor desirable and that the only important constant is US, not locale.
Big Bear or Arrowhead seem like good candidates. I vote Arrowhead simply because I've never been while I've been to Big Bear several times.
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 09:57 AM
Also, Idylwild is a possability. Or, maybe Ojai? It's got a real artist vibe. I've got the weekend off and if we go somewhere or not, I'm going to enjoy not working.
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 10:03 AM
Lavender Inn in Ojai. (http://www.lavenderinn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=45) They are connected with the culinary institute. How fun would it be to have a group cooking class?
Ojai Retreat Center has 12 rooms. (http://www.ojairetreat.com/)
I really must stop. Planning is a great form of creativity for me, but time is a problem.
Cant. stop.
Ojai Film Festival Date: 10/4/2007 - 10/7/2007 Time: Phone: 805-640-1947 or 805-649-4000 www.ojaifilmfestival.com (http://www.ojaifilmfestival.com/) Four day International Film Festival. Screenings of independent narrative, documentary and animated films. Youth film festival, panel discussions, seminars and various special events. Location: various locations
EDIT - AGAIN!
I've got a few hours this afternoon since my marketing meeting was cancelled. If I can get a miracle accomplished then, I'll try my best. However, after that, I'm back to crazy-land again.
Ghoulish Delight
08-14-2007, 10:17 AM
Lavender Inn in Ojai. (http://www.lavenderinn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=45) They are connected with the culinary institute. How fun would it be to have a group cooking class?
Oh, I'd be SO in for that.
The whole Ojai thing is looking mighty attractive...
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 10:21 AM
Ojai is great. I did some quick checking on line (because it's beyond my control) and it looks like a few places are already booked. We DO have a travel agent on our board. Maybe we could get them involved?
Ghoulish Delight
08-14-2007, 10:22 AM
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Ojai Retreat Center has 12 rooms. (http://www.lavenderinn.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=45)
That place looks great, but their group pricing confuses me. At $2500 per weekend night for 12 rooms, that's more than $200 per night per room, more than the price for any of their individual rooms.
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 10:34 AM
Ventura? (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/Ojai%20Film%20Festival)
Temucula? (although a wine tasting focus has zip appeal for me)
La Jolla? (http://www.innlajolla.com/)
We stayed here (http://www.scrippsinn.com/) before it was refurbished. It is a GREAT location - next to the museum and on the beach.
Kevy Baby
08-14-2007, 11:09 AM
Hmm... I thought y'all were looking for a place to stay during Coachella. Obviously I was wrong.
Stan4dSteph
08-14-2007, 11:10 AM
Here's one:
El Capitan Canyon (http://www.elcapitancanyon.com/) - near Santa Barbara (here's another article about the beach area there (http://www.sunset.com/sunset/travel/article/0,20633,1630150,00.html))
ETA:
Crystal Cove Beach Cottages (http://www.crystalcovebeachcottages.org/html/index.html)
Palm Springs (http://www.sunset.com/sunset/travel/california/article/0,20633,1579936,00.html)
Idyllwild (http://www.sunset.com/sunset/travel/california/article/0,20633,1620201,00.html)
LSPoorEeyorick
08-14-2007, 11:43 AM
Hmm... I thought y'all were looking for a place to stay during Coachella. Obviously I was wrong.
Well, if you scroll up you'll see our discussion about making an annual tradition of doing a creative retreat on Columbus Day weekend. Quote below, emphasis, well, mine obviously, since I said it!
But, see, we planned to re-capture that lightning every year for the rest of, well, forever. An annual creative retreat and general blowout. And with the loss of our location, we do need to find an alternative if we're going to continue with discovering our own creative continents on Columbus Day...
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 11:43 AM
I put in a call to Tim (Mrs. Nesbitt) at Craig's Travel. He's going to do some research and put together some ideas for us. While I absolutely LOVE the planning process, I just don't have time. It's time to bring in a professional! He's going to read this thread to see where we're all at, idea-wise.
LSPoorEeyorick
08-14-2007, 11:50 AM
Tom suggested earlier the idea of renting a large house, as opposed to a few rooms in a large hotel. He mentioned-- and I agree-- that part of the appeal of the Beat Hotel was that (for the most part) it was just us, and there was a literal (physical) barrier between us and the outside world. Perhaps the rental of a cabin might be a cool idea. I have a bit of work stuff I need to get done, but when I have a second I'm going to look at vacationrentals.com (I think that's what it was, anyway) to see what I can find.
LSPoorEeyorick
08-14-2007, 12:05 PM
Ummm... HEL-LO.
If we can get 10 bedrooms filled, this would only be $150/night.
http://www.vacationrentals.com/vacation-rentals/23859.html
LSPoorEeyorick
08-14-2007, 12:10 PM
6 bedrooms, $130/night.
http://www.vacationrentals.com/vacation-rentals/10689.html
LSPoorEeyorick
08-14-2007, 12:12 PM
5 bedrooms, $179/night.
http://www.vacationrentals.com/vacation-rentals/19873.html
LSPoorEeyorick
08-14-2007, 12:40 PM
Where is Lake Tahoe, anyway?
7 bedrooms, $170.
http://www.vacationrentals.com/vacation-rentals/29318.html
So... if we go with a hotellish thing, it won't matter exactly how many are going. But if we go with a home rental, it will DEFINITELY matter because we need to put a deposit down on most of them.
So. Who's thinking of coming?
Ghoulish Delight
08-14-2007, 12:41 PM
I'm loving those vacation rentals. The price and privacy are spot on.
So, perhaps now, seeing as we're under the 2 month mark and availability is going to quickly be an issue, we should take the next day or so to get a head count.
CP & Me, LSPE & Tom, NA & € are definites. bluerica was an early maybe, don't know her status. Mousepod & H are going, whether they know it or not, even if we have to kidnap them. iSm? You going to uncurmudgeon enough to go, and bring your elusive boyfriend?
Ghoulish Delight
08-14-2007, 12:44 PM
Tahoe is further than we'd be willing to go, seeing as we need to be back to LAX for an afternoon flight on Monday. It's on the California/Nevada border, at the point where the border goes from straight north-south to angled to the southeast. About an 8 hour drive.
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 12:46 PM
Tahoe is too far for a weekend trip. Sadly, so is Big Sur - which has some fantastic options.
LSPoorEeyorick
08-14-2007, 12:49 PM
8 hours? Then... Tahoe can suck it, Trebeck.
Once when I was looking at Ojai for a previous stay, I came upon the Emerald Iguana Inn and her sister, the Blue Iguana, and I made a note of them as lovely places for a future stay, particularly for a creative vacation. Unfortunately, I don't know if we could fill either place entirely ourselves, and the Green Iguana, at least, is probably a little over our target price range.
But look, pretty...
http://www.emeraldiguana.com/
http://www.blueiguanainn.com/
Cadaverous Pallor
08-14-2007, 01:42 PM
Ack, don't have time to do so at the moment, but someone PM the possible people, in case they aren't opening the thread!
I'm blown away by the lovely homes we could have all to ourselves!!
innerSpaceman
08-14-2007, 02:35 PM
Hmmmm, I'll mention this to the elusive boyfriend ... but I really doubt we can afford to do it. $ = tight rite now.
blueerica
08-14-2007, 02:59 PM
Yikes... I just won't be able to do it with school and the new paycheck givers.
But... do have fun!
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 06:13 PM
A house would be great if it is in a cool location. Although, with the Beat, we never left the place. (Well, once for Korean BBQ.) I'm anxious to see what Tim has found for us. Ojai is sounding quite fun and the film festival looks promising.
€uroMeinke
08-14-2007, 08:16 PM
A home might be cool, but it'll be a bit of a crap shoot - I'd want to make sure that we at least had a private room we could retreat to as well as a cool common area. I find I would really like a pool.
Oh, at it would be great if it were clothing optional - even if only in the pool area...
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 08:19 PM
What was great about the Beat was that there were no neighbors. That would concern me about a home unless it was isolated.
Mrs. Nesbitt
08-14-2007, 09:09 PM
Once when I was looking at Ojai for a previous stay, I came upon the Emerald Iguana Inn and her sister, the Blue Iguana, and I made a note of them as lovely places for a future stay, particularly for a creative vacation. Unfortunately, I don't know if we could fill either place entirely ourselves, and the Green Iguana, at least, is probably a little over our target price range.
But look, pretty...
http://www.emeraldiguana.com/
http://www.blueiguanainn.com/
The Emerald Iguana is adults only has only 5 rooms left that weekend at $209.00 per night.
The Blue Iguana is the family friendly resort and only has 4 rooms available.
Issue with these smaller hotels is you are breaking up a weekend. They prefer Friday / Saturday night stays instead of Saturday / Sunday.
Columbus Day is not a major holiday weekend. I am checking to see what I can find and should post some ideas tomorrow. My guess it looks like 5 to 7 rooms?
Mrs. Nesbitt
08-14-2007, 09:43 PM
Not finding much in Ojai. I found this property about 14 miles from there. Would have to verify availibilty tomorrow.
http://www.santapaulainn.com/
I did find this one that looks like it has plenty of availibilty. I will have to verify, but it looks like a good choice.
http://www.strawberrycreekinn.com/
For Lisa
Art Galleries-Named one of the 100 Best Small Art Towns in America by the popular book of the same name (by John Villani), Idyllwild proudly boasts more than 15 art galleries featuring works by local artists. Called the Art Alliance of Idyllwild, the group also holds art events throughout the year. Ask the innkeepers for a seasonal Visitors Guide or an Art Alliance brochure, which includes a map and a description of each gallery.
Not Afraid
08-14-2007, 10:00 PM
I've stayed at the Strawberry Creek Inn (although, I think it had another name at that point). I think we're too rowdy for such a tranquil place. I also believe the owners live on property - which was fine at the Beat because Steve was so cool, but I'm not sure it would work for this group. We're probably frighten them ;)
Mrs. Nesbitt
08-14-2007, 10:45 PM
Here are a couple of other choices. I have sent in requests for two homes in Palm Springs that sleep ten. Have to see if they will just do a weekend. Should know tomorrow. I am checking out another hotel a group used this year in Palm Springs. They can be a fairly rowdy group and this hotel was very accommodating. If that all that fails, we move on and try again. :D
http://www.elrancholodge.com/index.html
http://www.alpinegardens.com/index.html
LSPoorEeyorick
08-14-2007, 11:07 PM
What was great about the Beat was that there were no neighbors. That would concern me about a home unless it was isolated.
That is what concerns me about renting some of the rooms in a small hotel-- I loved how we were able to "take over" the Beat.
Mrs. Nesbitt
08-15-2007, 03:18 PM
I tried a few home rentals in Palms Springs. Either they were sold out or required a three nights stay.
Here is the hotel in Palm Desert where a group stayed before and had no problems. They are a fairly rowdy crowd. To take over the entire hotel you would need a pretty good size group as this hotel has 30 rooms.
http://www.inn-adc.com/theinn.html
LSPoorEeyorick
08-15-2007, 03:28 PM
Thanks for doing the legwork, Mrs. Nesbitt! We appreciate it.
Kevy Baby
08-15-2007, 04:26 PM
I say just go for a home invasion: drive up there and cruise around until you find a place that looks good. Barge in and tie-up the homeowners and stuff them in a closet. Just make sure to feed them well and untie them when you leave.
Not Afraid
08-15-2007, 06:03 PM
ARGH!
I just want to go here by myself (http://vacationrentals.com/vacation-rentals/4596.html). ;)
Kevy Baby
08-15-2007, 06:24 PM
I just want to go here by myself (http://vacationrentals.com/vacation-rentals/4596.html). ;).
Rates:
• 3 Nights Minimum
• $1,500-$1750/nightly
Weekly $7,250-$8,750
Mrs. Nesbitt
08-15-2007, 08:00 PM
That is the problem with the house rentals. The rate is either to high, 3 night minimum or sold out. I checked quite a few places today without much luck.
You may have to settle for something. I just don't think you going to ever find a replacement for what you had. I will keep checking though.
Ghoulish Delight
08-15-2007, 10:44 PM
Just throwing this out there, while Ojai or Palm Springs would definitely be my first choice of setting, there's also still the mountain (Arrowhead/Big Bear) option. Just a thought, I don't know if availability is better or worse there, but it might be worth looking in to if there's a better chance of finding a place we could fill.
innerSpaceman
08-16-2007, 08:13 AM
as confirmed by visual display at the venue with too loud sound last night: zapppop and I are out, once again. We'll be in Las Vegas over Columbus Day weekend.
That's two years in a row. We are officially not part of the Columbus Day / Beat Generation. :(
Cadaverous Pallor
08-16-2007, 04:29 PM
as confirmed by visual display at the venue with too loud sound last night: zapppop and I are out, once again. We'll be in Las Vegas over Columbus Day weekend.
That's two years in a row. We are officially not part of the Columbus Day / Beat Generation. :(Why the heck did you plan something that weekend? It better be a wedding or some other commitment you couldn't get away from...
Not Afraid
08-16-2007, 06:07 PM
Sooooo, are we giving up?
I'm not ready to give up yet. I'll do some looking tonight and see if I can come up with anything.
LSPE and I would be willing to get a place for three nights, if that was necessary and the rate was reasonable. Anyone else's thoughts on that?
innerSpaceman
08-16-2007, 07:18 PM
Why the heck did you plan something that weekend? It better be a wedding or some other commitment you couldn't get away from...
Um, yeah. It's a wedding.
My sister's.
I'm performing the ceremony.
Kind of a serious obligation. (But I had zero idea it was columbus day weekend)
Isaac
08-16-2007, 07:28 PM
Why the heck did you plan something that weekend? It better be a wedding or some other commitment you couldn't get away from...
He didn't plan it; his sister did....and yes, it's a wedding.....hers....and she kinda wanted her little brother to perform the ceremony after hearing about the ceremonies he's performed. So yeah, we're not available that weekend.
innerSpaceman
08-16-2007, 07:46 PM
Columbus Day weekend is overrated anyway.
Let's do this on a different minor holiday each year! Groundhog's Day. Flag Day. Arbor Day.
The possibilities are endless!
Ghoulish Delight
08-16-2007, 07:47 PM
We're in for a 3 night stay over nothing, for sure.
DreadPirateRoberts
08-16-2007, 09:07 PM
Just throwing this out there, while Ojai or Palm Springs would definitely be my first choice of setting, there's also still the mountain (Arrowhead/Big Bear) option. Just a thought, I don't know if availability is better or worse there, but it might be worth looking in to if there's a better chance of finding a place we could fill.
If you are up for the mountains, you could give this place a try
Whispering Pines Cabins (http://www.whisperingpinescabins.org/index01.html)
I've never stayed there, but I know it is quiet, it doesn't have the hub bub of Big Bear. The disadvantage is there is only one restaurant in town, so you'd probably have to bring your own food.
I've been researching some house rentals in the desert and have made some inquiries. I'm at work right now, so I'll have to post that info tonight or tomorrow, but I also found one possible place in Ojai.
www.churchillresidence.com
They say they have had an inquiry about the 13th, but no one has reserved yet.
Ghoulish Delight
08-17-2007, 04:25 PM
The 13th? Columbus Day weekend is the weekend prior to that, we'll be in Chicago on the 13th.
innerSpaceman
08-17-2007, 04:44 PM
I'm tellin' ya .... Arbor Day is wiiiiide open.
Ghoulish Delight
08-17-2007, 04:57 PM
Yeah, but what did trees ever do for us?
innerSpaceman
08-17-2007, 04:59 PM
Stand in the Hub and say that, mista!
Kevy Baby
08-17-2007, 05:34 PM
If you want to go for the weekend of Oct. 20/21, Sunday is Scotchtoberfest and Monday the 22nd is the Pagan Sabbat, Mabon.
Also, Friday is Evaluate Your Life Day and Mammography Day (http://www.brownielocks.com/october.html)
Not Afraid
08-17-2007, 05:58 PM
Columbus Day weekend is October 6-8 (Saturday - Monday).
Kevy Baby
08-17-2007, 06:27 PM
Columbus Day weekend is October 6-8 (Saturday - Monday).OK then...
October 6
Chowder day is October 6-8 (why they don't call it Chowder Days is beyond me)
Jackie Mayer Rehab Day
Johnny Appleseed Day
Mad Hatter Day
National German American Day
Physician Assistant (PA) Day
October 7
Intergeneration Day
International Frugal Fun Day
Pulaski Day
World Communion Day
World Mental Health Day
October 8 (besides Columbus Day)
Alvin C. York Day
Cosmopolite's Day
National Kick Butt Day
Native Americans' Day
Ooops... Let me recalibrate my reasearch and get back to you.
OK, so I've done some searching. I reaesarched houses available in the desert and Ojai areas. If anyone likes, I can do further searches for hotels or for different areas, like the mountains. Out of the places I contacted, I had positive responses from the following three, all in Palm Springs. Each of these is available for the weekend of the 6th through 8th.
1) The first is a 4-bedroom home in a residential area of Palm Springs, but seems to offer privacy due to walls and foliage around the property. there's a pool and hot tub and each bedroom has a separate entrance. It has a three night minimum, but provided a quote, including all taxes and fees, of $1300 for the three nights.
http://www.property-rentals.info/1000010001/
2) This house has less photographic documentation than the first, and at $895 a night (not including taxes and fees) with a three night minimum is probably a little too rich for at least Heidi and me. I think I would lean toward options one or three, though if any of you fall in love with this one, I'd consider it. It's also five bedrooms, so we'd need to lasso in someone else to come along.
http://www.vacationrentals.com/vacation-rentals/19873.html
3) Our final contestant has the most bells and whistles. A pool with a spa, a hammock, a sauna, a swim-up bar, man-made river and waterfalls, pool table, putting greens... lots of stuff. The home itself is smaller than the others, about 2000 sq.ft. (#1 is 3000, #4 is 4000), but the back/pool area is practically an aumsement park. It runs $595 a night, and I calculated that after taxes and fees, it would probably be in the neighborhood of $1500 for two nights.
http://www.cyberrentals.com/rental/p167037
So that's what I've got. Check 'em out, and we can move on from there.
Ghoulish Delight
08-22-2007, 10:26 AM
Agreed on option #1 or #3, leaning towards #3.
Tom, you rule for doing the legwork.
Ponine
08-22-2007, 10:32 AM
For those of us not involved in the first Beat Hotel event, and without reading the WHOLE thread..
what dates are you bantering about? (eta, its October, I see that now)
Or, do you have your full quota of persons?
innerSpaceman
08-22-2007, 10:47 AM
No. 3 sounds fun ... if we reschedule for Arbor Day weekend.
LSPoorEeyorick
08-22-2007, 10:51 AM
Nope, we don't have a full quota. In fact, we could look at the larger abodes if there are more people interested. Right now, we know we have for-sure three couples (H+T, J+G, L+C) and one potential (H+J) and that's about it. We're looking for Columbus Day weekend.
mousepod
08-22-2007, 10:53 AM
Thanks for keeping us in the potential list. With all the insanity going on here these weeks, H can't/shouldn't focus on a "getaway" quite yet.
-J
innerSpaceman
08-22-2007, 10:54 AM
All signs point to Arbor Day, I tells ya.
LSPoorEeyorick
08-22-2007, 10:57 AM
Well, not for Tom and I (as we intend to do an annual creative retreat on Columbus Day)... but there's nothing stopping anyone from doing another house rental for Arbor Day...
Ghoulish Delight
08-22-2007, 01:29 PM
what dates are you bantering about? (eta, its October, I see that now)
Or, do you have your full quota of persons?
To further pin it down, the plan is Sat-Mon over Columbus Day weekend, which is a little untraditional, but stems from € having the Monday off. Just pointing that out in case you do feel like joining and need to put in for the vacation time.
If I'm reading the description of option #3, it sounds like it's 4 bedrooms + sofa bed in living room. So with 3 confirmed couples and 1 maybe couple, there's room for at least 2 more bodies in that house, with bigger house still being an option.
Cadaverous Pallor
08-22-2007, 05:03 PM
All signs point to Arbor Day, I tells ya.Sorry babe, we've planned our NY/Chi trip around it, it must be Columbus Day.
Gemini Cricket
08-22-2007, 05:22 PM
I keep reading this thread's title as "A prostitute for the Beat Hotel".
lol! :D
€uroMeinke
08-22-2007, 08:41 PM
I like option 1 - floor plan looks great for having great common areas as well as hotel like privacy in the rooms - I also like the notion of staying another day, which this one would seem to require.
I think though, now is the time for anyone interested to express their interest. If we get 8 people cost would be about $165/person for option 1, or $190/person for option 3
Morrigoon
08-22-2007, 09:07 PM
Sounds like a great retreat for some time in the future, but this isn't looking like my year. Hope you guys have fun, though!
(I'm surprised the "Mad Hatter Day" thing didn't capture the imagination more)
Ghoulish Delight
08-22-2007, 09:09 PM
Having just come back from playing pool, and thinking about option #3 having a pool table (and game room, and lazy river, and...), I would like to switch my vote to #1. #3 is certainly spiffy and full of entertainment, but that's suddenly seeming entirely counter to the blissful non-doing of Columbus Day '06.
Stan4dSteph
08-23-2007, 06:53 AM
#1 is "Luxurios."
Cadaverous Pallor
08-23-2007, 07:31 AM
Just pick - let's book!
Who else is in??
We're in. But you already knew that.
LSPoorEeyorick
08-23-2007, 10:18 AM
We're good with numero uno, of course. Woo hoo!
Ponine
08-23-2007, 02:34 PM
so before I stick my toe in the almost dry cement....
not being an attendee the last time...
Was this an event with a plan, or a big lazy get together?
( I love the lazy river, but will go whereever the majority decides)
Ghoulish Delight
08-23-2007, 02:40 PM
The plan was nothing more than to enjoy the surroundings and spark our collective creativity.
The result: A big lazy get together that resulted in some creative joy as well as a general sense of well being and relaxation.
LSPoorEeyorick
08-23-2007, 02:50 PM
Last time we all just brought a bunch of art/creativity supplies, lingered around the pool and drew, wrote, chatted, relaxed... hurrah for creative retreating.
Capt Jack
08-23-2007, 03:37 PM
oh cool. I have 4 carburetors to rebuild. theres a good flat surface somewhere right? :D
Kevy Baby
08-23-2007, 05:34 PM
Wait: will there be power tools?
€uroMeinke
08-23-2007, 05:46 PM
Wait: will there be power tools?
Hmmm, didn't really think of that as part of the Columbus Day plans, maybe you can help the Arbor Day committee come up with something.
innerSpaceman
08-23-2007, 07:04 PM
Sure. We'll need some chain saws to do a number on those trees.
Babette
08-24-2007, 03:03 PM
Will Arbor Day be a seaside event since that is the day we celebrate all of the ships coming into the arbor?
Stan4dSteph
08-24-2007, 05:48 PM
Isn't that what a pirate says when he's cold?
"Arrr!Brrrr!"
RStar
08-25-2007, 11:30 AM
I think I've walked by this place. It looks very familiar.
It looks like every other place I walked by in the 60's and 70's, so it looks familiar to me......
:snap: Very swanky blast to the past :iSm: !!! !
Ghoulish Delight
08-25-2007, 01:04 PM
So, umm, should we reserve the 4-bedroom one?
Gn2Dlnd
08-25-2007, 02:07 PM
I just read the thread, was out of the loop for the first annual Beat Meet, and am now throwing my metaphorical hat into the ring. Where have we landed for location?
LSPoorEeyorick
08-25-2007, 07:24 PM
Word was #1?
Though-- how many for-sure rooms do we have now?
LSPE & Tom
NA & Euro
Happy Haunts
Gn2
Is Ponine a for-sure or a maybe?
The Pods? Any thoughts?
mousepod
08-25-2007, 07:52 PM
The thoughts on the Pods remain fuzzy, unfortunately. H flies out tomorrow for her first week at the new job (she's staying in a hotel 'til Friday). She flies back up after work on Friday and we caravan down on Saturday. Then, on Tuesday, she flies out for a week of meetings while I await the movers. The concept of "getting away" is not even on our radar right now. If we have to decide today, we'll have to say "no" - not because we won't want to go, but because we're in no place to commit to anything right now. If there's a last-minute opportunity (or even one in two or three weeks), the answer might well be different.
Not Afraid
08-26-2007, 01:29 PM
Me thinks you'll need a respite - although I can think of quite a few complications for you (Monday holiday? Puppies?")
Ponine
08-28-2007, 10:18 AM
Word was #1?
Though-- how many for-sure rooms do we have now?
Is Ponine a for-sure or a maybe?
Ponine is in x2
€uroMeinke
09-03-2007, 09:10 AM
Bump - if anyone else is interested speak up now - I think we may try to make the ressies real soon
Ghoulish Delight
09-05-2007, 09:43 AM
Okay, now or never. The house has been booked, so if you're going please let us know.
I'm really excited.
Not Afraid
09-05-2007, 09:47 AM
YAY!
Morrigoon
09-05-2007, 09:50 AM
Damn, I wish I could, it sounds like a blast.
Gn2Dlnd
09-09-2007, 02:51 AM
Oh, argh. It's not gonna happen for me this time.
The cheese is making me enough money, finally. It's just not making me enough time.
Disneyphile
09-23-2007, 01:01 AM
We'd love to join you, but we're up in Sacramento that weekend for a friend's wedding.
BarTopDancer
09-23-2007, 09:01 AM
Sounds like so much fun to be had. I wish I could go :(
Cadaverous Pallor
09-25-2007, 01:45 PM
I just had a synchronous moment.
I'm reading an uncorrected proof of Money for nothing by Edward Ugel, regarding gambling. At one point the author mentions that a friend's father had a tradition of taking his grown sons to Vegas, gambling etc. When he passed away, he left them a bit of money that was earmarked for "one last trip on the old man's dime." The sons took some friends and had a blast...
He wanted them to do it right. Get the suite instead of the standard room. Order the lobster...<snip> The point was to celebrate life as their dad enjoyed it, at its best, at his best, in his happiest place. Thus, the Las Vegas Memorial Extravaganza was born. We liked it so much, we decided that the Extravaganza needed to be come an annual event.
<snip>
One of the real coups of the entire weekend is that no one ever has to beg and negotiate with his wife about why the hell he and all of his dipsht friends are headed off to Vegas...again. <snip> News of an impending trip to Vegas is often accompanied by sessions of the silent treatement, the length of which is directly commensurate with the duration of the husband's stay. But this gig is different.
<snip>
Its origins being legitimate, sad, poetic, lovely even, who would dare do anything but offer her hubby a lift to the airport come Columbus Day, each and every year?
Our origins may not be the same, but it seems that others are reclaiming Columbus Day for their own hedonistic purposes. (psst, theirs dates back to 1996.) Makes me want to research other Columbus Day gatherings.
Cadaverous Pallor
09-28-2007, 07:59 AM
I just had a synchronous moment.
I'm reading an uncorrected proof of Money for nothing by Edward Ugel, regarding gambling. At one point the author mentions that a friend's father had a tradition of taking his grown sons to Vegas, gambling etc. When he passed away, he left them a bit of money that was earmarked for "one last trip on the old man's dime." The sons took some friends and had a blast...
Our origins may not be the same, but it seems that others are reclaiming Columbus Day for their own hedonistic purposes. (psst, theirs dates back to 1996.) Makes me want to research other Columbus Day gatherings.Believe it or not, only a few pages later, the author makes a random reference to a djellaba.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/codexjen/IMGP4508x.jpg
:eek:
I'm starting to think I am meant to read this book for some strange reason.
LSPoorEeyorick
09-28-2007, 08:29 AM
A DJELIABA!?
This IS a synchronous book.
Capt Jack
09-28-2007, 08:38 AM
I'm starting to think I am meant to read this book for some strange reason.
if you were not, you would not
since you are, it must be so
Cadaverous Pallor
09-28-2007, 11:48 AM
A DJELIABA!?
This IS a synchronous book.Funny thing is, it's taking me forever to read, since I consider it kind of trashy and a guilty pleasure.
if you were not, you would not
since you are, it must be soIndeed! What I wouldn't give for a Yoda backpack...
</derail>
Not Afraid
09-28-2007, 05:36 PM
We need to find the $.99 Djeliaba store.
Capt Jack
09-28-2007, 08:18 PM
can I just cut a hole in a blanket and wear it with my hoodie?
Cadaverous Pallor
09-28-2007, 09:06 PM
We need to find the $.99 Djeliaba store.According to this author, go haggle in Casablanca.
Not Afraid
09-29-2007, 09:37 AM
OK!
Not Afraid
09-29-2007, 10:39 AM
Highs in the mid 90's lows in the mid 60's. I predict flurries of bodies strewn on the lawn chairs.
innerSpaceman
09-29-2007, 11:44 AM
Heheh, zapppop and I will be in Las Vegas. Let's have a Who's Desert is Hotter competition!!
Capt Jack
09-29-2007, 06:10 PM
I sooo hope you win
Not Afraid
09-29-2007, 07:21 PM
We bought a crap-ton of basic art supplies today.
Not Afraid
10-02-2007, 11:57 AM
Trader Joe's Cathedral City (118)
67-720 E Palm Canyon Dr
Cathedral City, CA 92234
Phone: (760) 202-0090
Trading Hours: 9 am - 9 pm
Eliza Hodgkins 1812
10-02-2007, 12:04 PM
Trader Joe's Cathedral City (118)
67-720 E Palm Canyon Dr
Cathedral City, CA 92234
Phone: (760) 202-0090
Trading Hours: 9 am - 9 pm
Cool. Cause I'll pretty much be eating Trader Joe's salads for the entire weekend. Huzzah!
Capt Jack
10-02-2007, 12:43 PM
coool. love Trader Joes. I may just give my body a break and eat fruits and veggies all weekend.
so...someone just gave me an xbox and a ton of games....should I bring it?
:p
(dont be afraid to say "if you do, you sleep in the street")
lol
Cadaverous Pallor
10-02-2007, 01:11 PM
While I'm a video game fan myself, I would actually prefer that we avoid it over this Beat weekend, as well as screwing around online for hours and watching TV. A movie is a different story.
Just my vote.
Not Afraid
10-02-2007, 01:32 PM
I don't play video games. I really never have. I'd rather work the brain in another fashion.
Capt Jack
10-02-2007, 01:40 PM
:) no worries
Disneyphile
10-03-2007, 01:21 AM
Damn, I wish we were going. I'd bring the full camera gear, and even the green screen to play with.
Capt Jack
10-03-2007, 08:27 AM
still tryin to figure a way to do that porn gig, huh?
:blush:
Morrigoon
10-03-2007, 09:12 AM
Damn, DP, what a great retreat activity that would be, you'll have to do it some other time!
Disneyphile
10-03-2007, 09:46 AM
still tryin to figure a way to do that porn gig, huh?It's not porn, it's art!
NirvanaMan
10-03-2007, 01:39 PM
I love...art.
Not Afraid
10-05-2007, 12:27 AM
Tomorrow (Friday): Partly cloudy skies with gusty winds. Cooler. High 72F. Winds WNW at 20 to 30 mph.
Tomorrow night: Clear. Low 57F. Winds WNW at 10 to 20 mph.
Saturday: A mainly sunny sky. High 81F. Winds N at 10 to 20 mph. LOW - 63
Sunday: Sunny. Highs in the mid 80s and lows in the mid 60s.
Monday: Sunny. Highs in the low 90s and lows in the mid 60s.May need some layers - and socks.
BarTopDancer
10-05-2007, 07:14 AM
May need some layers - and socks.
Everyone! Be sure to notice where Lisa puts her socks!
Sounds like a great time will be had by all!
Kevy Baby
10-05-2007, 10:42 AM
Everyone! Be sure to notice where Lisa puts her socks!And her pants (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=5739)!
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