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[tracilicious]

I just ate a cheeseburger. An In N Out cheeseburger.

[Morrigoon]

Yay! Today was In-N-Out day!

[wendybeth]

Do they make veggie burgers, or are you off the wagon?

Note to self: eat at In-N-Out when in SOCal. Never have, but it sounds really good.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

Do they make veggie burgers, or are you off the wagon?

Note to self: eat at In-N-Out when in SOCal. Never have, but it sounds really good.

Yes they do (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-N-Out_Burger_secret_menu). Make time to eat there. The nearest (from DL) In-N-Out appears to be:

1180 S. Harbor Blvd.
Fullerton, California 92832

Take Harbor Blvd North, it's near the intersection of Orangethorpe and Harbor Blvd.

[Alex]

Mmmm....bun. I believe that veggie burger is also called "a roll." Because of their murdering focus on mammalian meat I've only eaten there once to have fries while Lani had a burger. The fries were horrible so I now just watch when the mood strikes her.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Am I evil for thinking, "That OP could double as Tom's suicide note."?

[wendybeth]

Yes. You may as well consider a career as a tech documentarian.


(Thanks, Dread!)

[RStar]

I should give it a try again. I tried it once and thought it was a soggy tasteless mess. I've had better.

In fact I had one at Rainforest that I thought was great. Also, Apollo Burger on Katella just west of Harbour is real good.

[AllyOops!]

Mmmm....bun. I believe that veggie burger is also called "a roll." Because of their murdering focus on mammalian meat I've only eaten there once to have fries while Lani had a burger. The fries were horrible so I now just watch when the mood strikes her.

I'm not a big ol' fan of their fries either. Who ordered the paper tray of limp & flaccid styrofoam shoelaces? Not I!

I don't eat fast food. EVER. I could tell you why, but then you'd luge the In-N-Out burger you so richly enjoy, thus ruining all future burger dreams and wishes whilst leaving you thinking that what I shared was the stuff of urban legends but in this case it's true. Then, you'd be all driving in your car n' stuff, rumbling tummy, with a thought bubble above your head that says this and only this: "That bitch Ally totally ruined my double beef patty joy by sharing that disgusting one time at In-N-Out story" except that in my case it wasn't at an In-N-Out. It was at a McDonald's. And nobody BUT nobody should ever have what happened to my fish filet happen to them.

But then you'd realize that In-N-Out is no McDonald's and a fish filet is no burger. The clouds lift, a rainbow appears, and all of your unwavering beef faith is restored. With a smile in place, your thought bubble would now be filled with this loving sentiment: "That Ally is a class act and while I may never admit it, she is the reason that I log on."

Bon Appetit! :) ;)

[BarTopDancer]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm in n out.

maybe tomorrow night.

I liked their "grilled cheese" when I was a veggietarian. grilled cheese, animal style, raw onion, no grilled, extra pickles. fries extra crispy.

[JWBear]

I love their fries!

[tracilicious]

You guys, this is not an In N Out thread. It's a vegan Traci ate a cheeseburger thread. Duh. :p

[lizziebith]

I'll have what Ally's having! :) Thanks.

[wendybeth]

You guys, this is not an In N Out thread. It's a vegan Traci ate a cheeseburger thread. Duh. :p
Whew! When you didn't post right away, I thought perhaps you were undergoing a vegan intervention!

Man, when you fall off the wagon, you do it good.:D (Cheese and meat?);)

[Gemini Cricket]

I like their milkshakes.
But as you all know, my milkshakes bring all the boys to the yard and they're like it's better than yours. Damn right...
:D

[tracilicious]

Whew! When you didn't post right away, I thought perhaps you were undergoing a vegan intervention!

Man, when you fall off the wagon, you do it good.:D (Cheese and meat?);)


Lol. Ok, so I'm not calling myself vegan anymore. But for the most part I'll still eat like one. I don't like eggs, I'm intolerant to dairy, and I still don't want to give money to the meat industry. But I felt like too much of my identity was becoming wrapped up in the vegan thing. And I needed to eat meat at least once so that it would actually mean something when I say I'm not vegan anymore. Oh, plus I had been craving In N Out for weeks!

[Strangler Lewis]

Oh, plus I had been craving In N Out for weeks!

And a bit of the old ultraviolence, too, no doubt. Real horrorshow.

[Matterhorn Fan]

How long had you been vegan? Didn't you get sick?

[RStar]

My mom was Vegan for years. Then she became allergic to beans, including soy beans. The Dr told her she would die if she didn't get protein from somewhere, and meat was one of the places she had to go. Even with some nuts she was getting pretty sick. There are essintial amino acids that only meat provides.

I liked the In N Out Burger bumper stickers when people altered them to

In N Out Urge :D that gave me a craving also!

[tracilicious]

There are essintial amino acids that only meat provides.


The only thing you can get from meat that you can't get from veggies is B12.

MF- Since August. A little sick. I got pretty light headed, oddly. Then a bit nauseous. But nothing like the time I took a bit of something that I didn't know contained bacon. I don't plan on repeating the experience anytime soon. I'll still eat like a vegan.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

There are essintial amino acids that only meat provides.

Traci already stated that this is incorrect, but I'll go one further. If your mom was willing to take her amino acids in capsule form, she could certainly have remained vegan. As so amusingly referenced above, Tom can only get his amino acids that way.

By the way, Trac, it's OK to be flexible. I eat a little ham around the holidays sometimes. Just because you choose to eat one way most of the time, it doesn't mean you aren't allowed to make other choices.

[Capt Jack]

I love their fries!

ditto. the key to InO fries is eating them piping hot, lest they become

the paper tray of limp & flaccid styrofoam shoelaces

[Morrigoon]

Oh wow, Traci, I didn't realize the significance of you having a burger! Good choice though!

[Snowflake]

Well, I've never been to an in N out, though there are a few of them in the Bay Area. I seem to recall a long thread about them on mice chat. I guess I should seek one out next time I'm in the mood for a burger. But, we've got a local drive in spot here that has a good reputation (little dive in Belmont) so I may try that first.

[blueerica]

I'm putting this in bold because... You know you can order your fries extra crispy, right?

The beauty, IMO, of In N' Out is that they'll make you whatever you want, however you want it, if they have the ingredients. Want cheese fries? Comin' right up! Want 100 patties - well, you know, they've done that, too. (Legend has it they've done more patties than that... But you get the idea.)

If your fries didn't come the way you like them, unless you have something against fresh-cut potatoes - which I know some people do - just ask for a crispier version of the fries.

Unless you're trying to keep away from fast foods. Now-a-days, though I like their fries, if I am simply craving a burger and I am near an In N Out, I don't order the fries - may as well save the calories. The act of me getting fast food in burger-form is fairly rare as well. Fries, under any circumstance are just unnecessary. Unless they're amazing. Put a plate of garlic fries in front of me, and that's amazing.

;)

[blueerica]

OH - that's right, this is about vegan Tracilicious and burgertime fun.

Well, good choice if you were going to eat a burger. Better than a McD's or just about anywhere else.

[SacTown Chronic]

I thought traci outed herself as a meat-eater last week?

[Alex]

Yeah, the problem is with fresh cut fries, which, in my opinion make for horrible french fries. If you're going to use fresh potatoes better to bake them into potato wedges or something than frying them.

Potatoes should go through a soak several times to remove excess starches before being fried. In my opinion, of course. So frying htem longer for again won't solve the problem.

[JWBear]

And a bit of the old ultraviolence, too, no doubt. Real horrorshow.

LOL!

[JWBear]

...Put a plate of garlic fries in front of me, and that's amazing.

;)

Have you tried the garlic fries at Ruby's? Yum!

[BarTopDancer]

I am so going to In n Out tonight.

[Morrigoon]

In-N-Out: Spoiling vegetarian lifestyles since 1948

[Prudence]

I've never been to an In-N-Out.

[BarTopDancer]

I've never been to an In-N-Out.

You need to leave the resort the next time you are out here.

[blueerica]

You need to leave the resort the next time you are out here.


Yes, you must!

[Alex]

I hear that the burgers at Village Haus are just as good as In & Out.

[lindyhop]

I could give up eating red meat if In N Out did not exist. Happily it does so I allow myself the indulgence once in a great while. It's the only fast food place I go near any more.

[Prudence]

You need to leave the resort the next time you are out here.

We left the resort last time we were there! We just didn't go get hamburgers.

[RStar]

Traci already stated that this is incorrect, but I'll go one further. If your mom was willing to take her amino acids in capsule form, she could certainly have remained vegan. As so amusingly referenced above, Tom can only get his amino acids that way.
Sorry, I missed that.

And I was mistaken also. Essential Amino Acids are ones that the human body cannot make, and all of these can be obtained from plants. My bad. Essential Amino Acids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_amino_acid)

The one thing we cannot get from plants that is in meat is cholesterol.

[AllyOops!]

I'm putting this in bold because... You know you can order your fries extra crispy, right?


And a big bold resounding yep! I'm really glad you did post that, because when I went back to read my original post I thought, "I should have added that I have ordered my fries well-done!" (By the way, hi Erica! :))

Only twice have they been served to me crispy crunchy golden. Every other time? Flaccid and still lifeless. Like a bunch of little stud spud erections gone wrong. I guess my frenching fries just aren't that into me. Honestly? I don't like french fries unless they are crunchy crispy golden. And smothered in ketchup. :) There is a place called Fresh Works in Valencia that is the absolute diggity. My boyfriend is friendly with the owner, so he always sends us home with bagfuls of goodies. His french fries are always so crispy and covered in seasoning salt! And his homemade potato chips? Holy cow! I usually don't care for either anywhere else, but there they are the total exception! I wish I could share them through the computer (if I actually had some!)

I'm happy you enjoyed your burger, Traci! Will you continue eating meat in general?

[LSPoorEeyorick]

The one thing we cannot get from plants that is in meat is cholesterol.

Nope. Plenty, plenty of vegan foods raise HDL and LDL. You can raise LDL by eating popcorn cooked in coconut oil (i.e. movie theater popcorn), or chocolate, anything hydrogenated or deep-fried. You can raise your HDL by eating good oils, most of which are vegetable-based.

Like Traci said, it's really just the B12 that's missing from a vegan diet. And most vegans I know take multivitamins with B12 in it.

[BarTopDancer]

MMMMM

hamburger, double meat, animal style, raw onions instead. extra pickles. fries xtra crispy. small strawberry shake

[wendybeth]

What is the source of the B-12 in vitamins? Just curious.....

[Kevy Baby]

I likes me a slab of dead cow as often as I can. Yum yum!

I hear that the burgers at Village Haus are just as good as In & Out.No

[Ghoulish Delight]

What is the source of the B-12 in vitamins? Just curious.....
It's actually produced only by bacteria and is a byproduct of cyanide production.

[wendybeth]

Cool! So, like- when the guy's inside the gas chamber, he gets a healthy dose of B-12 before the cyanide kills him?

Yeah, I'm bored.

[Matterhorn Fan]

What is the source of the B-12 in vitamins? Just curious.....Interesting. (http://www.vegsoc.org/info/b12.html)