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Cadaverous Pallor
04-07-2007, 02:04 PM
GD and I hosted my brother, his wife, and their two kids - Nathan, age 1, and Alana, age 4. This trip was to be mostly for Alana's benefit....though it was filled with firsts for us.

I rented a stroller for the first time. The efficiency of the stroller rental impressed me. The line looked long but it moved like crazy. Even so, I saw a guy chewing out an old man in line, and I knew it would be a hellish day.

We had decided to not get to the park until afternoon. Or rather, they decided that it would be better for the kids. This meant that we were in Fantasyland at 12:30pm in line for Dumbo. Forever. I can't even say how long we were in that line because I avoided looking at my watch the entire time. When you've got to keep a 4 year old upbeat, you don't want to feel down yourself. The line was as long as I've ever seen it. FL itself was pretty nightmarish to navigate - not the absolute worst I've seen but close.

In line for the Carousel, Alana spotted a horse and said "I want THAT one!" It was Jingles, of course. I told her and the family about Jingles, and when everyone else went right to grab a horse, we went left - and we got Jingles. GD had done a fastpass run and wasn't able to ride, so when we rode past with Alana on Jingles, his face was priceless. :D

Alana was not thrilled with Mr. Toad's. But when we got her on Small World - she was transfixed. I heard her say the word "miracle". Remember, this girl is from Alaska, and has never seen anything like this. Nathan, to our absolute surprise, loved Small World. He actually danced along to the music, bobbing up and down, wiggling his arms. It was one of the cutest things I've ever seen! A one-year-old spontaneously dancing, without any prompts from us. They both had the same reaction to the Tiki Room - dancing Nathan, awed Alana.

However, Pirates was a different story. Alana was decidedly not happy with that ride, from the drops to the scenes themselves. My brother said that Nathan was wide eyed and absorbed from beginning to end.

Alana's love of animals got us on Jungle Cruise, and she dug that one too, in her own bowled-over way. I'm sure, had she been a couple of years older, her reactions to these things would be more about grins and laughter, instead of wide eyed, quiet responses. "Did you like that ride?" "Yeah." She's like that about everything though. The real tip off is when you say "we're going to do this next" and she says "what about that Small World ride with the dollies, we could do that one again."

Nathan was unimpressed with the fireworks, but Alana was once again transfixed. Again, she'd never seen anything like this before. Later she pointed and said "I love that castle."

She maintained, however, that her favorite ride was Buzz. She watches the cartoon pretty regularly on the Disney Channel. In line, the Buzz AA called on the junior Space Rangers to help him out, she responded, "I'm a Space Ranger." Once we got off the ride, she couldn't stop saying "I'm a Space Ranger, I shot Z's and monsters and Zurg!" I swear, she said the exact same sentence at least 10 times in a row, with the same enthusiasm. No bashfulness there.

It was a very weird day for us. Here's what we didn't ride:
Space
Indy
Big Thunder
Matterhorn
Mansion (after Pirates we knew it was a bad idea)

Watching the fireworks at the end of the day was like listening to someone tell us about all the stuff we missed. Weird.

We learned that Indy doesn't let babies in line. We were just going to wait together (fastpass) and then I'd jump off and let the other adults ride, but it was a no-go. As the kids were in a good mood at the moment, we decided we might come back, but ran out of time.

GD and I kept forgetting that we had to park and pick up strollers constantly. Having them was great, as there was no way we could have carried the kids all the time when they got tired. As it was, we are all in pain today from the carrying we did do. To their credit, they never use a stroller for Alana, but in the case of DL, they were very willing to make an exception and rent one. Say what you will - it was a good idea.

We also learned that navigating a stroller without hitting ankles is nearly impossible in the insane crowds, and that dealing with strollers in general is a learned skill.

It was crazy busy. Apparently those that get Good Friday off aren't all religious types. The day is an AP blockout for a good reason.

We had fun - but man, do I wish we could have been there at opening, like we did with my parents and other brothers a week ago!

Cadaverous Pallor
04-07-2007, 02:07 PM
Oh, and on photos - we did NOT have our camera with us, having left it at my parent's house. :eek: :( :eek: My brother brought theirs, but we almost lost it on Buzz. For a while there it was panic city. Thankfully, we did get it back, and I will get photos from them - eventually.

MouseWife
04-07-2007, 02:16 PM
What a cool review.

I really love that you are sharing your perspective from a 'first timer' to strollers and kids.

It has been awhile for me but yes, it isn't easy.

And, I'd use a stroller, as long as I could. Nothing worse than a tired kid, 4 or 5 years old. You know we get tired, can you imagine their little legs?

I didn't see where someone sat in a quiet spot while one of the little ones napped? If you look around one visit, you'll see strollers parked along the walkway towards the Matterhorn and around the castle with kids {and some adults} sleeping. I've been there many a time.

Can't wait to see the pics of the kiddos!!

~MS~
04-07-2007, 02:28 PM
awww I love it, we just did Isabellas first trip and she was 4 months old so we didn't have as much activity .... her only ride of the day was the carousel and she was asleep in her carrier while daddy sat on the horse....the big kids snuck in a few rides as we wandered the park with her but the breakfast at Miss Minnies was the big event for the day (that and hanging out with the Lash and stoat!)

Kevy Baby
04-07-2007, 03:22 PM
Cool story CP - thank you for sharing!

ozron
04-07-2007, 03:33 PM
Congratulations on seeing the park through a new pair of eyes. I'm constantly being reminded of what is special at the zoo by children seeing for the first time that which I see very day!

Morrigoon
04-07-2007, 03:49 PM
And another disney fan is made...

Sub la Goon
04-07-2007, 04:11 PM
Yes, I can attest to how different it is to do D-Land with and without the nippers!

It's a Whole New World! It has pro's and con's. Like don't expect to do any of the cool fast rides. But you also get much of the magic and eye-popping wonder that kids have.

And strollers? Necessary evils. I have the double-wide so I have to really take it easy and take my time. It's as wide as a wheelchair, so I have become quite adept at pushing those too!

LSPoorEeyorick
04-07-2007, 10:42 PM
I agree on the stroller point. Bitch if you must, but try taking a four-year-old around the park all day and deal with their exhaustion afterwards. Not pretty.

Having spent time with various infant/toddler (you know, the in-between stage like "tweens"-- what do you call them? Inddlers? Todfants?) nieces and nephews at various Disney parks, I think that taking them early is great. It's the kind of visual stimulation that really gets their little brains going. I've heard people deny that children get anything out of that situation, but I've seen my baby nieces and nephews get more out of a day at the park than most adults do.

I'm glad you enjoyed it! As much as I enjoy the grown-up day at the park, nothing can beat one with a wee companion you love.

Kevy Baby
04-07-2007, 11:07 PM
what do you call them? Inddlers? Todfants?Nightmares

RStar
04-07-2007, 11:35 PM
CP, I hope some day it will be your kids that you will be taking to the park to see it through their eyes. There's nothing like it. I've done the stroller and wheelchair gig, and it's a real pain (but unavoidable).

Great Trip report, thanks! :snap:

CrazyLegs
04-08-2007, 03:33 AM
Thanks for sharing

scaeagles
04-08-2007, 05:58 AM
I had actually lost interest in DL (shock, I know, don't ban me) for many years until I had my first. Taking her even when she was 2.5 really changed everything and restored my love for it. Now we have to take the kids frequently and it is the thing we enjoy most as a family.

Strangler Lewis
04-08-2007, 09:45 AM
Not taking a stroller has its advantages. The first time we went to Disneyland, before my son turned 49 dollars, we got there at opening, spent half a day and the kids were thrilled.

From there we went to visit my father-in-law's judicial chambers. We met some of the justices, some of whom had toys in their offices, and the kids were thrilled.

A year or so earlier, we went to one of the tort-fest fairs that rolls into town every year. Ten dollars for adults, kids were free. Three or four rides, cotton candy and a funnel cake. We met Pervy the Carny and Hep-C the Clown (Oh, don't touch his cut) and the kids were thrilled.

Last Christmas we went to our local toystore and a big old Didd'l Maus was there hocking his schlock. The kids instinctively ran up for a cuddle and a picture. That was free, and the kids were thrilled, if a bit puzzled as to why.

If you have kids, you know that half the time when presents come from UPS, the kids have as much fun with the box as with what's inside.

So, yes, Disneyland may be the most thrilling, but pound for pound and dollar for dollar, I don't think it competes.

innerSpaceman
04-08-2007, 10:59 AM
Perhaps, then, the appeal is that kids being thrilled by Disneyland is something their parents can relate to.

I think it's easier for adults to be thrilled with Disneyland than a UPS box. And so, when we see Disneyland through our childrens' eyes of wonder ... we as parents get more out of it than when they play with a dead squirrel. I think we tend to project that appreciation onto them. They may enjoy the squirrel in the UPS box just as much as it's a small world.

But since Disneyland is fun for the whole family, despite whatever rosey delusions parents conjure up ... I believe it's pound for pound above most family fare.




Anyway, thanks for sharing that family visit, CP. What a charming day. I'm so glad Greg was feeling well enough to make the trip with you. Good thing he made such a quick recovery.

Babette
04-08-2007, 11:52 AM
Glad you had a nice day, great report.

So strollers as battering-rams is unavoidable you say. I'm still going to yell at people when they peel the skin off my heels!

Plumenom
04-08-2007, 12:25 PM
GD and I hosted my brother, his wife, and their two kids - Nathan, age 1, and Alana, age 4. This trip was to be mostly for Alana's benefit....though it was filled with firsts for us.

!

too bad you didn't run into Lumbo for some extra Magic:(

NirvanaMan
04-08-2007, 12:33 PM
Nightmares

Time to grab the bucket.

I still hope for a kid-free day at DL. How awesome that would be. No parents using strollers as battering rams. No crying, no screaming (cept coastermatt), no need to elbow little ones in the head (well that can be fun actually).

NirvanaMan
04-08-2007, 12:35 PM
CP, I hope some day it will be your kids that you will be taking to the park to see it through their eyes.

Hey! I like GD and CP. Why would you wish such evil things upon my friends?

:evil:

MouseWife
04-08-2007, 01:55 PM
If you have kids, you know that half the time when presents come from UPS, the kids have as much fun with the box as with what's inside.


No kidding. My husband used to bring home refridgerater boxes and the kids loved them.

And, yes, a day without strollers can be fun. Also, sometimes I just don't even bring a camera. And, other times I don't give a care about what we eat and eat a bunch of junk and don't carry a backpack....

*sigh* I am sitting here thinking of how I do NOT miss strollers...remembering I am now at the point where I need to get a wheelchair for my mom...

The cycle of life.

Cadaverous Pallor
04-09-2007, 10:05 AM
So, yes, Disneyland may be the most thrilling, but pound for pound and dollar for dollar, I don't think it competes.Ah, ok, next time I have a child fly 3000 miles to see me and tour around Southern California, I'll just hand her a cardboard box or maybe even take her to a dirty carnival. That'll save me a lot of money and annoyance! :rolleyes:


Thanks to everyone else for the responses.
too bad you didn't run into Lumbo for some extra Magic:(Ah, Mr. Nom, wish I'd thought of this sooner, though I wouldn't abuse your powers too much. :) Hopefully you'll still be spreading pixie dust in a couple of years?

I didn't see where someone sat in a quiet spot while one of the little ones napped? If you look around one visit, you'll see strollers parked along the walkway towards the Matterhorn and around the castle with kids {and some adults} sleeping. I've been there many a time. We wanted to hit Dumbo and suddenly Nathan needed to sleep. Mom and dad took turns with him out of line while the other waited with Alana for her elephant ride. Later in the day, dad had to miss out on Buzz because again, we had a sleepy stroller to watch.

And another disney fan is made...Actually, she's pretty dyed in the wool. She's a big DVD watcher, as well as the Disney Channel stuff. She can quote Cinderella and the old Donald cartoons like crazy.

We actually got pretty lucky in that we did not have to endure the Princess Fantasy Faire thingy. I was sure we'd land up there.

Strangler Lewis
06-24-2007, 11:10 PM
Ah, ok, next time I have a child fly 3000 miles to see me and tour around Southern California, I'll just hand her a cardboard box or maybe even take her to a dirty carnival. That'll save me a lot of money and annoyance! :rolleyes:


It's dirty carnival season again in Petaluma as the Sonoma/Marin fair hit town. Since the kids are now both over 3, it cost $46 to get in. For the four of us. In about an hour and a half, the kids rode seven or eight rides, including a teacup ride, an elephant ride and the carousel. Plus, we saw lots of cows, sheep, pigs, goats and endless rabbits. In terms of characters, the kids were thrilled when Clo, the blow-up costumed mascot of the Clover Stornetta dairy walked by waving. The cast members or, more accurately, los cast miembros, made sure we had a safe and happy time.

€uroMeinke
06-24-2007, 11:19 PM
What? No photos?

Strangler Lewis
06-25-2007, 06:01 AM
No, but here's a picture of Clo, pre-power-inflated suit.

http://cloverstornetta.com/clothecow/

Cadaverous Pallor
06-25-2007, 07:57 AM
Sounds like you guys had fun. If I lived in Petaluma, I'd totally take kids there, and have a blast doing it. Since I live about 5 miles from Disneyland, I figure kids might be disappointed if I took them to a carnival instead of Disneyland. Does that make sense, or do I still sound like an uppity bitch to you?

blueerica
06-25-2007, 08:56 AM
You sound like an uppity bitch.

OK, I'm kidding of course - and I think a lot of kids would be disappointed by being that close and going somewhere other than Disneyland, since little ones don't always have that concept of money, yada yada. If avoiding Disneyland prices, it's sometimes best to avoid any kind of park experience and replace it with the beach, etc...

CoasterMatt
06-25-2007, 11:49 AM
Ghetto fun fairs are great- the more authentic carnies have less teeth, and if you're really lucky, less fingers...

RStar
06-25-2007, 04:16 PM
Ghetto fun fairs are great- the more authentic carnies have less teeth, and if you're really lucky, less fingers...

Tup. The carnivals are where they go when the retire from the theme park buisness are worn out, spent, and missing teeth from the lack of good dental coverage. Not to mention the loss of fingers from oiling the lift chain while it is running :eek: !

;)

BarTopDancer
06-25-2007, 04:38 PM
No, but here's a picture of Clo, pre-power-inflated suit.

http://cloverstornetta.com/clothecow/

If I saw that thing walking around I'd run away screaming. As an adult. That cow has terrifying teeth.

Strangler Lewis
06-25-2007, 05:08 PM
If I saw that thing walking around I'd run away screaming. As an adult. That cow has terrifying teeth.

No, you wouldn't. Clo usually hands out cups of ice cream.

Strangler Lewis
06-25-2007, 10:03 PM
And we have certainly not bowed to the mouse for the last time. Actually, I think Disneyland is not the worst entertainment value--for adults.