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Morrigoon
04-09-2007, 01:11 PM
When I was in school, my high school had a car repair shop program. Don't they do that any more?

I'm trying to figure out what to do with my Jeep, and one thing I thought of was to let high school car repair students have at it, but damned if I can find any evidence of the local schools having a car repair program. Maybe the school system just hasn't figured out that the internet exists yet (hey, it could happen... when I was in school my algebra textbooks mentioned computer punch cards, okay?), or maybe they just don't fund programs like that any more.

Betty
04-09-2007, 01:18 PM
That jeep doesn't happen to be an 03 with a working back window zipper does it?

Ghoulish Delight
04-09-2007, 01:21 PM
It's very rare. Shop classes in general (auto, wood, metal) are becoming scarcer and scarcer as schools are forced to dedicate more and more of the operating budget to turning kids into standardized-test-taking automatons.

DreadPirateRoberts
04-09-2007, 01:21 PM
Donate it to the LoT commune?

I checked and my HS doesn't have an automotive program anymore. Bummer, it was fun to work on cars at school. I think LB City College still has an automotive program.

Ghoulish Delight
04-09-2007, 01:23 PM
North Hollywood High's auto shop teacher is still listed as faculty, so I take that as solid evidence that the class is still running. (wow, just found some photos of the school from 1927. Trippy)

Gn2Dlnd
04-09-2007, 01:26 PM
I think Santa Monica College has an auto repair course, try your local JC.

Then again, I've always wanted a Jeep.

BarTopDancer
04-09-2007, 01:38 PM
Golden West College has an auto-repair program. I think OCC does as well.

Betty - it is a Jeep Grand Cherokee.

DreadPirateRoberts
04-09-2007, 01:49 PM
That jeep doesn't happen to be an 03 with a working back window zipper does it?

You could try Quadratec (http://www.quadratec.com/categories/jeep_soft_tops/) for soft top parts.

Ghoulish Delight
04-09-2007, 01:51 PM
You could try Quadratec (http://www.quadratec.com/categories/jeep_soft_tops/) for soft top parts.
Wow, I read that and thought, "Why would one need to go online for Pop Tarts that aren't stale?"

DreadPirateRoberts
04-09-2007, 01:58 PM
Wow, I read that and thought, "Why would one need to go online for Pop Tarts that aren't stale?"

have NA try typing it 3 times fast

MouseWife
04-09-2007, 02:02 PM
My experience has also been that it is the local community colleges have auto shops.

Too bad because the kids in school should be able to do some minor work on their cars.

Alex
04-09-2007, 02:15 PM
You'd likely have to look to vocational schools for modern car repair programs.

Beyond the pedagogical priority and funding issues you have the simple fact that modern cars simply aren't amenable to the kind of manual repair and maintenance that you used to do.

There was a guy who called into Car Talk on NPR a few months ago saying he wanted to learn how to fix his newish car himself rather than paying people. They essentially told him that except for some stuff around the fringes you can't anymore. You need extremely specialized tools and computers for most things around the engine.

Even changing the oil is difficult on most modern cars. They're all safer, lighter, faster, and more efficient but at the cost of simplicity and ability to just hit at them with a wrench until everything works again.

So when debating whether to fund an autoshop class it is probably a decision made easier when it is would actually have to be a pre-1990 autoshop class.

MouseWife
04-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Yep, this has been our problem. My husband used to do all of the work on our cars. Of course, these were pre '90 vehicles. He just didn't have the full time need to go out and purchase the tools needed. He did sometimes borrow them from the mechanics for a fee{special hexagon shaped tools, off sized mm tools} but then they quit that.

Well, he also got tired of doing it.

DreadPirateRoberts
04-09-2007, 02:37 PM
It's a compromise, we've traded simplicity and ease of repair, for energy efficiency, durability, and ease of maintenance. (not to say the old cars won't last long too, but they require more maintenance to stay that way. I'm still amazed that cars today can go 100k miles on a set of spark plugs, they used to rebuild engines at 100k).

Morrigoon
04-09-2007, 03:01 PM
That jeep doesn't happen to be an 03 with a working back window zipper does it?

Nope, it's a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. Mechanically it's a disaster, but it could be a really nice car for someone who can do a lot of the repair themselves. I'd heard that sometimes it was possible to loan vehicles to school auto programs and it'd get fixed up, but you had to be willing to wait a long time because they might take a semester to do. Either that, or donate it, but my accountant tells me that since I have so little to itemize, there isn't much point in donation.

DreadPirateRoberts
04-09-2007, 03:04 PM
Nope, it's a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. Mechanically it's a disaster, but it could be a really nice car for someone who can do a lot of the repair themselves.

I hear it's got a good radiator ;)

Morrigoon
04-09-2007, 03:07 PM
Yep, it does, in fact, have a radiator that is less than a month old :) And a thermostat, and a serpentine belt, and an air filter.

Funny about that...

DreadPirateRoberts
04-09-2007, 03:34 PM
Yep, it does, in fact, have a radiator that is less than a month old :) And a thermostat, and a serpentine belt, and an air filter.

Funny about that...

Is it 2 wheel drive or 4 wheel drive? You could post a "for sale" post in this forum (http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=158). These guys might be interested in parts, and you could get some return on your investment.

Morrigoon
04-09-2007, 04:01 PM
I posted the entire jeep on some jeep forum, but I posted it for the whole vehicle, not just parts.

Kevy Baby
04-09-2007, 04:07 PM
Either that, or donate it, but my accountant tells me that since I have so little to itemize, there isn't much point in donation.Well, there is the warm fuzzy feeling you get. But if that is all you are after, just don't shave you legs for a few days and then pee your pants.

DisneyFan25863
04-09-2007, 05:49 PM
We don't have auto repair at our school. We don't have any woodworking or shop classes at all. Instead, our school has a video studio, CAD lab, digital print shop, networking classes, and web design.

Instead, people can opt to take classes at our local community college (College of the Canyons), which is like less than a mile from our school. They have much better equipment than a school could ever afford, anyway.

mistyisjafo
04-09-2007, 07:06 PM
Nope, it's a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited. Mechanically it's a disaster, but it could be a really nice car for someone who can do a lot of the repair themselves. I'd heard that sometimes it was possible to loan vehicles to school auto programs and it'd get fixed up, but you had to be willing to wait a long time because they might take a semester to do. Either that, or donate it, but my accountant tells me that since I have so little to itemize, there isn't much point in donation.


Don't bother donating either. I work for a non-profit and we have people wanting to donate their old cars all the time. There are many companies who will do all the work of selling off the car but the amount of money the non-profit ends up making is extremely minimal Plus that company gets it's own cut!

Honestly, it's almost worth you selling it in the Pennysaver or something. There are people who may want it just to sell it for parts!

Cadaverous Pallor
04-09-2007, 08:16 PM
Loan it to a vocational school instead. Probably same deal as if you loaned it to a high school 20 years ago.