View Full Version : The Start of Cemetery Season!!!!!
Not Afraid
05-02-2007, 07:53 PM
hollywood forever cemetery: 6000 Santa Monica Boulevard at gower [map] (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=6000+Santa+Monica+Blvd,+Los+Angeles,+Los+Angeles ,+California+90038,+Unite+States&layer=&ie=UTF8&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=57.684464,72.421875&z=17&ll=34.09075,-118.320115&spn=0.007472,0.008841&om=1&msid=105603996154489920704.00000111dd1223c848f70&msa=0)
Saturday, May 19 the player (http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/1/) http://www.cinespia.org/_img_calendar/calendar_player.jpg directed by robert altman (1992, fine line features, 124 min.)
tribute to robert altman:
After nearly a decade of virtual obscurity, Altman triumphantly returned to form with The Player. With an endless parade of stars in cameo roles, this film stands as a testament to the support and love Altman had garnered in the Hollywood community. A biting and hilarious black comedy about a movie executive who falls under suspicion of murder, The Player is one of Altman’s masterpieces. Please join us for this special tribute to one of the greatest directors of all times.
Gates at 7 pm. Film at 8:30pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
Saturday, May 26 vertigo (http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/2/) http://www.cinespia.org/_img_calendar/calendar_vertigo.jpg directed by alfred Hitchcock (1958, Universal, 124 min.)
Hitchcock’s most haunting and surreal film is perhaps his greatest. Police detective Scotty Ferguson (Stewart) retires after a traumatic incident gives him a debilitating fear of heights. An old college buddy hires him to follow his beautiful wife. The woman (Novak) is seemingly possessed by the ghost of someone long since dead, and Scotty must rescue her before it is too late.
Gates at 7 pm. Film at 8:30pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
Saturday, June 2 Gilda (http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/3/) http://www.cinespia.org/_img_calendar/calendar_gilda.jpg directed by Charles Vidor (1946, columbia, 110 min.)
Haunted by his past, Glenn Ford starts a new life as the tough manager of a South American casino. He’s happy, that is, until Gilda arrives. Rita Hayworth stars in one of the sultriest roles of any screen siren. One of the most iconic films, Gilda is bursting with snappy dialogue, sexy dance numbers and noir intrigue.
Gates at 7 pm. Film at 8:30pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
Saturday, June 9 Harold and Maude (http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/4/)
http://www.cinespia.org/_img_calendar/calendar_haroldandmaude.jpg directed by Hal Ashby (1971, Paramount, 91 min.)
Indisputably one of the most beautiful and romantic but quirky films of the seventies. A young man obsessed with death and an older woman bent on living life to its fullest, find each other and start an unlikely romance.
Gates at 7:30 pm. Film at 9:00pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
INFORMATION: http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/
Also, click on How To and click on each bullet point.
Babette
05-02-2007, 08:23 PM
Whoo-hoo, summertime is here!
Kevy Baby
05-02-2007, 08:27 PM
I MUST go this year. I have fantasized over this the last two.
blueerica
05-02-2007, 08:33 PM
!!!
Not Afraid
05-02-2007, 08:38 PM
Silly Erica. !!! isn't playing at the Cemetery.
innerSpaceman
05-02-2007, 08:41 PM
Oh my Christ, I'll be missing the PERFECT cemetery film in the cemetery! I'll be out of town for Harold and Maude. Bah.
Though I like the film, it's not one of my all-time faves ... but it's so unbelievably perfect for the cemetery, that I'm sad to be missing it.
Nothing, however, will keep me from Vertigo on May 26. Though you can never recreate your first viewing, Hitchcock's supreme masterpiece deserves the highest cemetery screening honors! And I hope we have a few swankers there for a marvelous evening.
I've never seen Gilda ... and I've only seen The Player but once. I don't want to overdo it on cemetery screenings ... but I've no doubt that many ... perhaps most of my Saturday nights between now and October will be spent at Hollywood Forever.
Ugh, I shudder to discover what masterpiece we'll be missing during Swank Camp at the end of June.
Not Afraid
05-02-2007, 09:02 PM
I am fearful of taking a look at my calendar. I'm booked for most of the sumer. :( There are always work-arounds though.
Vertigo is such a great film. I've seen it many times and I'll see it many more.
I saw Gilda o TMC back in August and loved it. I was going through a Noir-loving phase and it was a perfect film to see. And, Rita Hayworth is GORGEOUS in this film!
I'm less inclined to see The Player, but it is the FIRST ONE! How can I stay home?
Harold and Maude, I've seen almost too many times - but it is perfect for a Cemetery Screening.
To me, Vertigo is Hitchcock's most overrated movie (good, just not as good as its reputation). And The Player is horrible. But the other two I'd be interested in (never seen Harold and Maude).
I was hoping to find a way to fit in a cemetery movie this year but my summer is so full it seems really unlikely.
CoasterMatt
05-02-2007, 09:30 PM
As blasphemous as this might seem (and yes, I have "PSYCHO" on my nametag at work - for Favorite Film), but I've never seen 'Vertigo' in it's entirety, so if I think this is a proper place to see it :)
innerSpaceman
05-02-2007, 09:54 PM
Well, I think the reason Vertigo has what many consider an undeserved reputation is that it can be very impactful on one's first viewing, and considerably less so afterwards.
I, for one, watch it and marvel at how it casts its spell - - but ever aware the spell can be cast only once ... and my crack at it is long gone.
The movie thus never seems quite as good as it was ... and some might then find its stellar reputation is somehow not deserved.
Yet it is.
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
05-02-2007, 10:08 PM
I loved my 1 time at the Cemetery Screenings. I hope to go to many more, it's a wonderful environment to see classic films - even as creepy as it may be at a Cemetery.
I'm there!!
I wasn't impacted much on my first viewing. It all just seemed slightly stupid. So it hasn't diminished on subsequent viewings. And it is still a good movie, there are just about a lot of Hitchcock movies I'd put ahead of it.
But it is moot since on Saturday, May 26, I will be in Yosemite.
Ghoulish Delight
05-02-2007, 11:21 PM
Oh, H&M is a must. I can't think of anything that already has a claim on that weekend on our calendar, but that can change in a blink. Will definitely put a priority on that one. Vertigo I can do without (I'm with Alex, found it enjoyable but not amazing). I love the Player and I haven't seen it in years, so I'm interested. And I'm pretty certain I've never seen a Rita Hayworth film, I wouldn't mind remedying that.
Squee.
CoasterMatt
05-02-2007, 11:27 PM
Oh man, if you're gonna see a Rita Hayworth film, Gilda is certainly the one where she practically burns through the screen.
keith - SuPeR K!
05-03-2007, 12:30 AM
I'm so excited! I think the May 26 one is the first of this season I will be trying to make it to :)
Snowflake
05-03-2007, 07:12 AM
I have great fondness for The Player, Harold & Maude and Gilda (to be sure, put the blame on Mame, everyone) and I also love Vertigo. It is one of my favorite Hitchcock films, it's certainly not perfect, but it's dreamlike qualities suck me in everytime. I can't resist the Saul Bass opening credits nor Bernard Hermann's score. No, not Hitch's best film, hell, I'm the only person who loved Family Plot, so don't take me seriously. Just go, it will be a fun night!
Hopefully I can make it down for a screening later on in the summer.
innerSpaceman
05-03-2007, 07:51 AM
Oh, and the night before the Vertigo screening is the 30th anniversary of the release of Star Wars. If there's not going to be any official showing of that little film (that, er, changed the world of cinema), we should arrange one for ourselves .... and have a mega masterpiece movie weekend!
That's right .... I called Star Wars a masterpiece. Deal.
Snowflake
05-03-2007, 08:17 AM
That's right .... I called Star Wars a masterpiece. Deal.
The true first film, I'd agree with you. Second, absolutely. Anything after that, meh. but that's just me!
blueerica
05-03-2007, 08:53 AM
I'm just hoping I can make it to May 19, then June 9.
I'll be out of town for the other two.
BarTopDancer
05-03-2007, 09:30 AM
When is PeeWee's Big Adventure?
AllyOops!
05-03-2007, 09:59 AM
This sounds like lots of fun & I've always been interested in going! Cool movies, cool people. :)
HOWEVER..I have a dorky question. People don't actually park themselves on plots and watch films do they? I don't know why I'm asking- I KNOW that cannot even begin to be allowed. *Disrespectful much?
*I know, I know. "But hello, Ally! They're DEAD." Yes, they are. More so then a door nail. As a Catholic, I believe in eternal life in Heaven. But riddle me this, Batman. If my days of shoe shopping and mystic tanning are behind me, and I'm finally enjoying the cold, peace of the grave because I won't have to answer my freakin' cellphone anymore, I do NOT want someone's movie buffing rump snuggled comfortably on MY monument. Yes, monument. And if Heaven is truly all we desire & envision within our mind's eye, then it's filled with glorious wishes. And I'm spending mine on the power to propel my decayed, agitated carcass out of the ground and shove the coke swilling, popcorn munching, picnic lunch packing, ever-offending ASS off of my grave. Unless your ass posts at LoT. Then it's all good & I ♥ you. However, I plan on being entombed in a shrine sponsored by the likes of Chanel & California Tan & charging hefty ticket prices, so why did I even bother to post this?
:D ;) :p
Ghoulish Delight
05-03-2007, 10:05 AM
There is an open grass field with no occupied plots that serves as seating. The movies are projected onto the outside wall of a large mausoleum.
AllyOops!
05-03-2007, 10:08 AM
Thank you much! :)
blueerica
05-03-2007, 11:30 AM
Though I like to snuggle up against the Ramones.
Just kidding... of course.
innerSpaceman
05-03-2007, 11:34 AM
More answers:
Pee-Wee's Big Adventure will next be screened during the 2011 season.
And Star Wars (the one called "Star Wars") is the only masterpiece of the bunch.
mousepod
05-03-2007, 11:52 AM
...Star Wars...that little film (that, er, changed the world of cinema)...
I love Star Wars, too, but I dig this quote:
"Star Wars swept all the chips off the table. What happened with Star Wars was like when McDonald's got a foothold, the taste for good food just disappeared. Now we're in a period of devolution. Everything has gone backward toward a big sucking hole."
- William Friedkin, interviewed by Peter Biskind for "Easy Riders, Raging Bulls"
JWBear
05-03-2007, 01:12 PM
Vertigo is one of Bill's And my Favorite movies... We are sooo there on the 26th!
I readily acknowledge that Star Wars is an important cultural artifact, but only in combination with its place and time.
If the exact same movie (with appropriate special effects) were released today it would, I feel, be viewed with indifference. And if A Phantom Menacehad been released in 1977 it would today be viewed as an important cultural landmark.
But then I watched Star Wars on cable so many times when before I was 12 that I may have just burned out that fuse. But when I see it today all I notice is how middlin it is.
innerSpaceman
05-03-2007, 01:21 PM
If someone will kindly score us some LSD for the 26th, we can watch Vertigo in all its surreal goodness.
AllyOops!
05-03-2007, 01:27 PM
Though I like to snuggle up against the Ramones.
Just kidding... of course.
Oh, I'm not above grave robbing Anna Nicole's still fresh casket. Thar be sparkly pink goods in 'dat 'dem there coffin!
I become more & more vile everyday. And this pleases me. :snap:
I'll snuggle with Jerry Orbach's bones. I still love him.
;) :p
(Kidding of course, too!
Strangler Lewis
05-03-2007, 01:41 PM
More answers:
And Star Wars (the one called "Star Wars") is the only masterpiece of the bunch.
Eh, so so. Much was jawdropping and awesome, but deliver me from gratuitous tedious droids.
Strangler Lewis
05-03-2007, 01:44 PM
Saturday, June 9 Harold and Maude (http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/4/)
[/SIZE] http://www.cinespia.org/_img_calendar/calendar_haroldandmaude.jpg directed by Hal Ashby (1971, Paramount, 91 min.)
Indisputably one of the most beautiful and romantic but quirky films of the seventies. A young man obsessed with death and an older woman bent on living life to its fullest, find each other and start an unlikely romance.
I must be getting old. I'm amazed at how young Ruth Gordon looks.
Ghoulish Delight
05-03-2007, 01:44 PM
I readily acknowledge that Star Wars is an important cultural artifact, but only in combination with its place and time.
If the exact same movie (with appropriate special effects) were released today it would, I feel, be viewed with indifference. And if A Phantom Menacehad been released in 1977 it would today be viewed as an important cultural landmark.
I dunno. I wasn't even born when Star Wars was released. I didn't even become conscious of it's existence until Jedi came out and I was 6. I didn't really grasp the whole trilogy thing and grasp the concept of the difference between the pre-Star Wars movie landscape and post until I was well into my teens...and I still considered it a great movie, well removed from its place and time.
Cadaverous Pallor
05-03-2007, 01:46 PM
Harold and Maude, hell yes. Everything else, possibly.
I'm always up for a SW viewing. Always. :)
Restrained myself from referring to it as "ANH" for iSm
Snowflake
05-03-2007, 02:32 PM
I dunno. I wasn't even born when Star Wars was released.
Crikey! Now I feel effing ancient.
DreadPirateRoberts
05-03-2007, 02:52 PM
Crikey! Now I feel effing ancient.
I hear you Snowflake. I'm trying to make the best of my time during the short interval where GD is out of diapers, and I'm not in them.
Ponine
05-03-2007, 03:21 PM
Crikey! Now I feel effing ancient.
I never really thought of myself as that much older than GD till now....
Somehow the thought that I saw SW in first run in the theatre, was a card holding member of the SW fan club, before they folded the first time, and was a HUGE SW geek for the first three films......
Makes me feel ancient.
Even though there are a few around who know that I wasnt exactly a grown up at the time.
Ghoulish Delight
05-03-2007, 03:24 PM
I'm old for my age.
innerSpaceman
05-03-2007, 03:25 PM
I readily acknowledge that Star Wars is an important cultural artifact, but only in combination with its place and time.
If the exact same movie (with appropriate special effects) were released today it would, I feel, be viewed with indifference. And if A Phantom Menacehad been released in 1977 it would today be viewed as an important cultural landmark.
I will be returning your camping deposit forthwith. :p
Restrained myself from referring to it as "ANH" for iSm
No need. The 30th Anniversary of that title won't be until 2012.
Chernabog
05-03-2007, 04:17 PM
GILDA is fantastic and that's the one I want to see.
JWBear
05-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Crikey! Now I feel effing ancient.
Get out of my mind.... AGAIN! ;)
Not Afraid
05-03-2007, 06:46 PM
I must be getting old. I'm amazed at how young Ruth Gordon looks.
Well, look at Bud Cort!
http://chud.com/nextraimages/bucort.jpg
Of course, my favorite Ruth Gordon quote is "Discussing how old you are is the temple of boredom".
I vaguely remember that I read an autobiography written by Ruth Gordon sometime in the early 80's. I remember very little of it, of course.
thecorndogwalker
05-03-2007, 07:48 PM
oh yeah and should people start lining up for "brains" at the refreshment stand, grab your significant other and get the "F" out of the cemetary!
LSPoorEeyorick
05-03-2007, 09:14 PM
OH!
I just yelled "Oh, **** ME!" at the computer screen.
I have been campaigning (real campaigns, real emails to real people at the very real Cinespia) for more than a year to get Harold and Maude on the mausoleum wall.
And when do they play it?
That's right.
My wedding day.
Ah, well. Maybe again, some years from now. But damnit, you all better be celebrating my union by watching my favorite movie in my favorite swanking-place that night. (We'll see you for The Player and Vertigo, I hope, before we leave for June.)
blueerica
05-03-2007, 09:20 PM
You know... I think it would be fitting. We'll have our own reception.
Maybe Cinespia just wanted to torture you?
blueerica
05-03-2007, 09:20 PM
Wait... I can see it now. Wedding cake, champagne... Uh oh...
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
05-03-2007, 09:37 PM
I like the idea!! Sounds good to me!
Ghoulish Delight
05-03-2007, 10:40 PM
How perfect, they'll be there in spirit....err so to speak.
Katie and I will be going to a few of these when I have a Saturday off. :)
Kevy Baby
05-04-2007, 10:25 AM
Katie and I will be going to a few of these when I have a Saturday off. :)HE LIVES!!!
Eliza Hodgkins 1812
05-04-2007, 12:28 PM
Vertigo. Gilda. Harold and Maude. The cemetery screens are totally in love with me!
innerSpaceman
05-21-2007, 05:26 PM
Ok, while I admire The Player, it really doesn't call to me ... so I gave the first cemetary screening a miss.
But I intend to see Vertigo this coming Saturday, the 26th ... and I suggest we use this Hitchcock classic of obsession, psychosis, duplicity, and dreaminess to kick off the Cemetary Season in Style with a LoT Picnic and Movie Night.
Never has James Stewart played such a creep! Never has Alfred explored on film so suscinctly his own mania for making over women in the cool blonde mode of haughty sexgoddessness.
One of Bernard Herrmann's most haunting scores. Kim Novak as the haughty blonde, Jimmy Stewart as the insane detective. Alfred Hitchcock as one of the world's best filmmakers.
Vertigo!
Babette
05-21-2007, 10:35 PM
Vertigo!
Gemini Cricket
05-21-2007, 11:36 PM
Rear Window is wayyyy better than Vertigo, imho.
:)
mousepod
05-21-2007, 11:42 PM
I did my "Complete Hitchcock" cycle last year. Spellbound, Shadow of A Doubt, Frenzy, Strangers On A Train and yes, even Psycho and North By Northwest are more fun for me. I think it's because they all have better villains than Rear Window and Vertigo. Gotta love the Hitchcock villains.
innerSpaceman
05-22-2007, 08:02 AM
Who needs Rear Window when you can see Disturbia currenly in release!!?
Not Afraid
05-22-2007, 08:43 AM
I'm pretty sure we're on for this.
Chernabog
05-22-2007, 01:07 PM
Gotta love the Hitchcock villains.
Let's not forget the villain in Rebecca.... the story of one woman's battle against her lesbian housekeeper. Spoooooooooky! ;)
Anyway, I want to see Gilda, since I am free that night, Rita Hayworth is awesome and.... yah.
Not Afraid
05-22-2007, 01:16 PM
Saturday, June 16th
Rebel Without a Cause
directed by nicholas ray (1955, warner bros, 111 min.)
Ray's masterpiece of teenage rebellion stars the incomparable james dean as the new kid in town. los angeles locations, hot rod culture and forbidden love embellish this timeless classic. sal mineo and natalie wood are stellar as dean's only friends in his unfamiliar and dangerous surroundings.
Gates at 7 pm. Film at 8:30pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
dj john tripp spins before and after the show.
This film is worth it jusT for the Griffith Observatory scene.
Chernabog
05-22-2007, 03:27 PM
This film is worth it jusT for the Griffith Observatory scene.
Not to mention the homoeroticism.
innerSpaceman
05-25-2007, 11:31 AM
So .... Vertigo tomorrow night?
Anyone?
Bueller??
:confused:
Not Afraid
05-25-2007, 02:03 PM
We're in. I have to unpack the "gear".
Chernabog
05-25-2007, 02:49 PM
So I have tickets for Pirates at the El Cap at 11:40pm tomorrow nite. Vertigo is 124 minutes. Would I be cutting it too close? I'd have to repark, traffic in Hollywierd, yadda yadda
Not Afraid
05-25-2007, 03:03 PM
So I have tickets for Pirates at the El Cap at 11:40pm tomorrow nite. Vertigo is 124 minutes. Would I be cutting it too close? I'd have to repark, traffic in Hollywierd, yadda yadda
They usually start the screenings on time.(8:30 in this case) If you parked on the street and not in the cemetery you'd have about a 10-15 minute walk to your care then a fairly short drive to the El Cap. I'd say you'd be fine.
Chernabog
05-25-2007, 03:10 PM
They usually start the screenings on time.(8:30 in this case) If you parked on the street and not in the cemetery you'd have about a 10-15 minute walk to your care then a fairly short drive to the El Cap. I'd say you'd be fine.
Hmmmm if I go tho I wont be able to see the end -- reparking at H/H is a PITA (need to allow 15 minutes for that alone) and I'd have to get to the El Cap around 11:10... hmm hmmm hmmmmmm I definitely wouldn't be able to see Kim re-die. :D
Can I get out early or is it stacked parking?
Not Afraid
05-25-2007, 03:12 PM
Hmmmm if I go tho I wont be able to see the end -- reparking at H/H is a PITA (need to allow 15 minutes for that alone) and I'd have to get to the El Cap around 11:10... hmm hmmm hmmmmmm I definitely wouldn't be able to see Kim re-die. :D
Can I get out early or is it stacked parking?
Park outside the cemetery on Gower. That's better anyways (and what we always do).
Eliza Hodgkins 1812
05-25-2007, 04:04 PM
I'll be there with my friend C. Will stop by to say hi if I can spy you guys.
xoxo
Babette
05-25-2007, 09:08 PM
Rear Window is wayyyy better than Vertigo, imho.
:)Ditto.
I did my "Complete Hitchcock" cycle last year. Spellbound, Shadow of A Doubt, Frenzy, Strangers On A Train and yes, even Psycho and North By Northwest are more fun for me. I think it's because they all have better villains than Rear Window and Vertigo. Gotta love the Hitchcock villains. Oooooh, North by Northwest! My first summer on Netflix I rented a bunch of the Hitchcocks. I could watch them all over and over. Except The Birds, never The Birds.
Babette
05-25-2007, 09:10 PM
Still unsure if going tomorow for Vertigo. NM is busy so I may wait for another time when he can go, too.
innerSpaceman
05-26-2007, 12:29 AM
Feh on that. (You know he's coming on our camping trip ... um, without you ... the cad.)
NirvanaMan
05-26-2007, 09:09 AM
Actually, 'we're' busy. Unfortunately.
If she wasn't in NY she'd be going camping. Speaking of which I gotta find a thread about that to find carpoolers.
NirvanaMan
05-26-2007, 09:15 AM
Saturday, June 16th
Rebel Without a Cause
I've always wanted to see that. I'm in for that one for sure.
Not Afraid
05-26-2007, 01:12 PM
Sooooo, gates open at 7:00. What time is everyone going to be there?
CoasterMatt
05-26-2007, 01:50 PM
I'll only be there in spirit it seems...
I'm too busy playing Gauntlet - it's even more fun when you don't have to pump any quarters in, hopefully Rose'll let me keep it.
AllyOops!
05-26-2007, 02:42 PM
Except The Birds, never The Birds.
That movie scared the chirps out of me when I was a little girl! Especially when that female character's eyeglasses shatter.
Now, I'm all appreciative of it (although Psycho is by far my favorite). So much so that I named my boyfriend's parakeet "Tippi". :) (I didn't think the name "Melanie Daniels" was too fitting for a perky little birdy.)
innerSpaceman
05-26-2007, 04:21 PM
We'll be there at 6.
Cadaverous Pallor
05-26-2007, 04:36 PM
Not venturing out tonight - but definitely on the list for a few others.
Chernabog
05-26-2007, 05:08 PM
Won't be able to make it to this one unfortunately -- I have to meet the group I am seeing Pirates with @ 10, which means I'd have to leave an hour into the movie :(
Not Afraid
05-26-2007, 05:19 PM
Well, all of you aren't making it are going to miss my "Vertigo Pie".
CoasterMatt
05-26-2007, 06:01 PM
Well, all of you aren't making it are going to miss my "Vertigo Pie".
You do know that "Vertigo Pie" is a euphemism for vomit, right?
innerSpaceman
05-27-2007, 08:55 AM
You're not too far from the mark, there.
Actually, the Vertigo pie was yummy, and massively entertaining.
The Cemetery Screenings are getting out of hand. This was bigger than Pee-Wee, very early in the season. I think too many people know about this now, and it's ruining it for the best of us.
Not Afraid
05-27-2007, 09:06 AM
The Cemetery Screenings are getting out of hand. This was bigger than Pee-Wee, very early in the season. I think too many people know about this now, and it's ruining it for the best of us.
I wouldn't say it was ruined, but the crowds were a bit over the top....and the bathroom line longer than I've ever seen it!
From the annoucement of upcoming films and the response of the crowd, I think Gilda is going to be a great cemetery experience. H&M and Rw/oaC will be blockbuster nights. The plan will have to be - arrive early to camp out in front (and get a parking spot) and pee early in the evening.
Vertigo was wonderful to see on the "big screen". It has been ages and I had forgotten just how unhealthy the Judy/Scotty relationship was. I also forgot what happened at the end, so it was a nice "surprise".
Not Afraid
05-27-2007, 09:21 AM
It was announced last night that there will be a special Sunday screening of this film:
special sunday screening, (http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/5/)
june17th (http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/5/)
holy mountain (http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/5/)
http://www.cinespia.org/_img_calendar/calendar_holy.jpg directed by alejandro jodorowsky (1973, Abkco, 114 min.)
financed by john lennon, and championed by the counter-culture, this sweeping psychedelic epic is jodorowsky's masterwork. surreal, symbolic and undeniably mind-blowing, there is no other film like it. the alchemist guides his disciples through a phantasmagoric landscape to the holy mountain so that they may confront the gods. the wild creativity and vision of jodorowsky and his characteristic occult symbolism is fully realized in elegant sets, ornate costumes and hundreds of extras. for thirty years the film was not shown theatrically and is only now being rediscovered by new generations. don't miss an opportunity to see this rare and beautiful gem under the stars and open sky.
Gates at 7 pm. Film at 8:30pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
dj carlos nino spins before and after the show.
due to some nudity no one under 17 will be admitted.
IMDB link (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071615/)
€uroMeinke
05-27-2007, 09:35 AM
I believe the warning was "hippy nudity" from the folks at Cinespia
I also wonder if this "Sunday" screening will start another precedent.
mousepod
05-27-2007, 09:39 AM
Cool. I would love to see this flick on a big screen.
€uroMeinke
05-27-2007, 09:41 AM
Cool. I would love to see this flick on a big screen.
C'mon down!
CoasterMatt
05-27-2007, 10:20 AM
I'd love to see Peter Jackson's "Dead Alive" at the Cemetary.
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
05-28-2007, 03:59 AM
Wow, if its Jodo its worthy. He wrote a good portion of the graphic novels that the company I worked for published. I saw Sante Sangre not to long ago and it is bizarre as it is brilliant.
innerSpaceman
05-30-2007, 07:31 PM
due to some nudity no one under 17 will be admitted.
Does that mean it's ok to take off our clothes???
I'm very much interested in seeing this one ... so much so, I'm probably going to give the previous night's Rebel Without a Cause a pass.
I'm so sorry I'll be missing Gilda. It's so rare to see a cemetery film I've not seen before.
No way I'll be missing The Haunting on June 23rd, the night before the big Moonliner / Mousey Girl / Submarine Meet. And though the view of the screen might be iffy, I'm tempted to sit way in the rear for this one ... with our backs up against one of the crypts.
Chernabog
06-01-2007, 10:41 AM
I am thinking of going tomorrow to see Gilda, is anyone else going?
Anything else I should bring out there besides food, a blanket and a jacket?
And what time would you suggest getting there NA, considering your experience from last weekend?
innerSpaceman
06-01-2007, 10:48 AM
Dawn.
Not Afraid
06-01-2007, 10:54 AM
If gates open at 7, get there by 5:30. I'm on the fence about going. But, I can be convinced or coerced.
Ghoulish Delight
06-01-2007, 10:54 AM
We're considering going, but we can't make it for any line up. CP works until 6, which means we should get there around 7:30.
Eliza Hodgkins 1812
06-01-2007, 11:13 AM
Definitely going to see Gilda. Since I live in the neighborhood, I happily designate myself 'first in line' girl. At list first of the Lotters to arrive. I can get there by 5:30 or earlier, if any of you think earlier is best.
Kevy Baby
06-01-2007, 11:34 AM
Definitely going to see Gilda. Since I live in the neighborhood, I happily designate myself 'first in line' girl. At list first of the Lotters to arrive. I can get there by 5:30 or earlier, if any of you think earlier is best.5:30 should be fine. The sun will be coming up at 5:43 so you will be okay.
Chernabog
06-01-2007, 01:41 PM
If gates open at 7, get there by 5:30. I'm on the fence about going. But, I can be convinced or coerced.
I'll do my "Put the Blame on Mame" strip tease if you go!!! ;)
(Or maybe I should promise NOT to do that if you go, hee hee)
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
06-01-2007, 01:43 PM
I wanna go! NA you have to also! Pleeeeeeaasssseeee?
Chernabog
06-01-2007, 02:01 PM
I just called Gemini Cricket and he is going with me, so now Not Afraid HAS to go or we'll all pout and have no fun. ;)
Gemini Cricket
06-01-2007, 02:08 PM
I'll totally be there. I'm bringing a jacket this time.
:D
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
06-02-2007, 11:58 AM
So, I wonder if I should tke the train in or just drive? If I drive its usually a big line up and the gates don't open until 7 right?
Not Afraid
06-02-2007, 02:15 PM
OK. We're on, BUT....I have to make a stop at The Grove at 5 pm to get a new power cord for my Mac. We'll head to the cemetery directly following that. I'll call someone. Or, someone call me. You know, the usual.
Not Afraid
06-03-2007, 10:56 AM
Let's hat her!
What a fantastic film!
Cadaverous Pallor
06-03-2007, 11:59 AM
Let's hat her!
What a fantastic film!HATE. Let's HATE her.
Gilda was great. Film Noir is such an odd genre. While the idea of seeing such awful people do such awful things to each other isn't usually my type of film-going experience, I absolutely adore the snappy dialogue, which overrules any squeamishness I might have regarding the plot. Hayworth is totally gorgeous. The camera - and the whole audience - loves her, even as she chews through every man around her.
It wasn't crowded at all. Wonderfully laid back and pleasant. I hope Harold and Maude isn't too busy.
Chernabog
06-03-2007, 02:50 PM
What a fantastic film!
Totally, I love that picture - classic old b/w movies are perfect for that venue.
Oh and FYI hun you were getting Rita Hayworth and Jayne Mansfield mixed up as far as their demise is concerned -- According to the imdb, Rita Hayworth died in 1987, at the age of 68, from Alzheimer's disease (which struck her very early on). You were also thinking of Mariska Hagarty, who is Jayne Mansfield's daughter, and is currently on Law & Order: SVU.
Not Afraid
06-03-2007, 08:35 PM
Yeah, I figured that one out when I got home. Hayworth married Prince Ali Kahn (as well as Orson Wells).
Chernabog
06-03-2007, 10:39 PM
Yeah, I figured that one out when I got home. Hayworth married Prince Ali Kahn (as well as Orson Wells).
Ewww the thought of having sex with Orson Wells ... *gag*
CoasterMatt
06-03-2007, 11:02 PM
Ewww the thought of having sex with Orson Wells ... *gag*
Maybe he was in to that sort of thing... :evil:
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
06-04-2007, 01:20 AM
Ewww the thought of having sex with Orson Wells ... *gag*
Yeah, lots of women have said I look like Orson Wells....
err... um....uhhh...
f**k... :(
Cadaverous Pallor
06-04-2007, 07:44 AM
Ewww the thought of having sex with Orson Wells ... *gag*Wells was rather attractive in Citizen Kane.
Snowflake
06-04-2007, 08:18 AM
Ewww the thought of having sex with Orson Wells ... *gag*
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all.
I've never thought about Welles' appeal in that way, I think he was only truly repulsive as he was in Touch of Evil. Otherwise, a fascinating person.
I'm fond of Citizen Kane, but I have to admit, it's more for Gregg Toland's brilliant camerawork than for Welles portryal of Kane. I have a soft spot for Jane Eyre, even with the horrid fake nose and the always annoying (to me) Margaret O'Brien.
Chernabog
06-04-2007, 08:00 PM
Wells was rather attractive in Citizen Kane.
Maybe I just have the Touch of Evil Orson stuck in my head ;)
blueerica
06-04-2007, 08:58 PM
Well, I'm pretty much planning on going to the next one. Judging by my insane school/study schedule, I've gotta make sure I at least get a smidgin' of fun with you guys in before I lose my mind.
BarTopDancer
06-04-2007, 09:32 PM
I'm hoping to make one in July. Is the schedule updated on a weekly or monthly basis?
Not Afraid
06-05-2007, 12:39 PM
We were JUST talking about this film!
Saturday, June 30
Roman Holiday
directed by william wyler (1953, mgm, 118 min.)
This elegant love story garnered Hepburn an oscar for her first starring role. A runaway princess yearns to experience life outside the palace walls, and wandering naively through Rome she is discovered by hard-boiled reporter Gregory Peck. In his quest for the ultimate scoop, he finds that all his skepticism and worldliness is no match for Audrey’s graceful beauty and innocent charm. Beautiful Italian locations, romantic adventures and the lovable princess create a romantic masterpiece.Gates at 7:30 pm. Film at 9pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
dj chris curtis spins before and after the show.
Snowflake
06-05-2007, 01:02 PM
Maybe I just have the Touch of Evil Orson stuck in my head ;)
Ooh! Now I feel sorry for your head, Cherney.
Snowflake
06-05-2007, 01:03 PM
We were JUST talking about this film!
Saturday, June 30
Roman Holiday
dj chris curtis spins before and after the show.
Bring a portable DVD player to the camping swanking (if not on a laptop) and have Kevy spin tunes before and after?
Chernabog
06-05-2007, 02:56 PM
Bring a portable DVD player to the camping swanking (if not on a laptop) and have Kevy spin tunes before and after?
All we'll have to to is pick someone to bury, lay out some sod, and poof! We get the whole experience. :D
Kevy Baby
06-05-2007, 03:19 PM
All we'll have to to is pick someone to bury, lay out some sod, and poof! We get the whole experience. :DWe could bring Kirk Cameron's acting career - it is pretty much dead.
Gemini Cricket
06-05-2007, 03:26 PM
Where'd you guys get your folding chairs from? I'm searching for a good one online...
:)
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
06-05-2007, 03:30 PM
I got mine at Target It was $29.99. It held me so... :)
Ghoulish Delight
06-05-2007, 03:33 PM
Where'd you guys get your folding chairs from? I'm searching for a good one online...
:)
Target or Walgreens usually carry 'em
Gemini Cricket
06-05-2007, 03:34 PM
I got mine at Target It was $29.99. It held me so... :)
I'm trying to decide if I want ones with legs or the ones where you sit your butt on the ground... I guess legs are good if you want to be up higher...
Hmmmm....
Gemini Cricket
06-05-2007, 03:35 PM
Target or Walgreens usually carry 'em
Yeah, REI seems a little on the pricey side...
Ghoulish Delight
06-05-2007, 03:42 PM
The ones with legs are far more comfortable. And the most important feature, if you get one like most of us have, is to find one where the fabric is supported by rope tied through grommets to the frame (usually has plastic arm rests).
Not Afraid
06-05-2007, 04:15 PM
We got these. (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=8560702&memberId=12500226&storeId=226&catalogId=40000000226&langId=-1)
Kevy Baby
06-05-2007, 04:46 PM
Would it be inappropriate to bring one of these? It has short legs.
http://www.ufl.co.nz/healthcare/images/Arc_chair.jpg
blueerica
06-05-2007, 04:54 PM
I want to crack some joke about short legs, but I have a feeling it would be inappropriate.
Chernabog
06-05-2007, 09:56 PM
Where'd you guys get your folding chairs from? I'm searching for a good one online...
:)
I got mine at the Big 5 which is right near your apartment.
Gemini Cricket
06-05-2007, 10:38 PM
I got mine at the Big 5 which is right near your apartment.
I'm not butch enough to step foot into a Big 5.
:D
blueerica
06-05-2007, 10:46 PM
I love my chair, and I got it from Longs Drugs for something super cheap at the beginning of last season. Love it, love it, love it.
Who's going this Saturday??
Ghoulish Delight
06-06-2007, 06:53 AM
Harlod and Maude, right? So in.
Gemini Cricket
06-06-2007, 07:58 AM
I'm in.
:)
blueerica
06-06-2007, 08:31 AM
I propose, and have proposed prior to this, that we make this a LSPE & Tom Wedding Celebration. Not only is this one of Heidi's all-time favorite movies, this Saturday is her actual wedding date... in Michigan... without us.... missing out on the one movie she really wanted to see play at the cemetery.
Any thoughts?
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
06-06-2007, 11:29 AM
I say Cake and bubbly and a chorus of "Here comes the bride." ;)
Ghoulish Delight
06-06-2007, 11:33 AM
I volunteer to remove garters from the thighs of all the women who attend the screening.
Kevy Baby
06-06-2007, 11:55 AM
And NM can catch the bouquet!
Gemini Cricket
06-06-2007, 11:58 AM
I'll bring the rice. But be warned, it'll already be cooked.
Cadaverous Pallor
06-06-2007, 07:49 PM
Ooh, this is a theme I can grok. :D
Hmm....Jordan almonds?
Cadaverous Pallor
06-06-2007, 07:50 PM
The ones with legs are far more comfortable. And the most important feature, if you get one like most of us have, is to find one where the fabric is supported by rope tied through grommets to the frame (usually has plastic arm rests).I'd like to reinforce this message - we have one that sucks and one that doesn't, and the one that doesn't has the crisscross rope support.
LSPoorEeyorick
06-06-2007, 10:41 PM
Just nosing in briefly to say... somebody had better have a cell phone with them! If you're going to be breathing the Breath of Fire without us on our wedding day, we at least want to say hello. We'll have departed from the reception by the time the movie is about to start. Who can we call?
Cadaverous Pallor
06-06-2007, 11:37 PM
You better be too busy after the reception to call us!
Kevy Baby
06-07-2007, 10:43 AM
You better be too busy after the reception to call us!And if you are; please don't call.
SzczerbiakManiac
06-08-2007, 01:53 PM
I'm in for Harold & Maude. I may even be bringing a couple friends.
Ghoulish Delight
06-08-2007, 02:57 PM
Dang, I'm a little bummed that this means we can't attend the Ducks celebration. I'm no huge hockey fan or anything, but the stadium is almost literally right around the corner from us, it would have been fun to head over and join the party. But there's no way we're missing H&M.
BarTopDancer
06-08-2007, 04:04 PM
Dang, I'm a little bummed that this means we can't attend the Ducks celebration. I'm no huge hockey fan or anything, but the stadium is almost literally right around the corner from us, it would have been fun to head over and join the party. But there's no way we're missing H&M.
I'll be missing the movie for the Ducks celebration. No way I am missing that party. And if anyone else is there hit me up.
So I'll 'represent' you at the Ponda if you 'represent' me at the movie. ;)
Ghoulish Delight
06-09-2007, 12:09 PM
Okay, we plan on being there at around 5 or 5:30. I think we've got contact info for all that have said they're going, so we'll see y'all there.
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
06-09-2007, 12:34 PM
I will be there! Remember napkins everyone!
Not Afraid
06-09-2007, 01:07 PM
I guess we're going. Ill do the packing this time. ;)
Gemini Cricket
06-09-2007, 02:31 PM
I'm going to have to skip this time. I'm not feeling well. Seems like I caught myself a cold. Feelin' blah.
:(
Not Afraid
06-09-2007, 02:33 PM
But, what about your dishes?
Gemini Cricket
06-09-2007, 03:28 PM
But, what about your dishes?
I'll have to get them later. Maybe Sunday nite?
BarTopDancer
06-09-2007, 09:32 PM
Dang, I'm a little bummed that this means we can't attend the Ducks celebration. I'm no huge hockey fan or anything, but the stadium is almost literally right around the corner from us, it would have been fun to head over and join the party. But there's no way we're missing H&M.
I'll be missing the movie for the Ducks celebration. No way I am missing that party. And if anyone else is there hit me up.
So I'll 'represent' you at the Ponda if you 'represent' me at the movie. ;)
As I told GD when I called, I wish I had gone to the movie.
Hope everyone had a blast!
CoasterMatt
06-09-2007, 09:36 PM
Instead of the movie at the Cemetary, I stayed here and watched "Midnight Express" - why couldn't Paris Hilton get THAT kind of jail experience :evil:
Kevy Baby
06-10-2007, 08:29 AM
As I told GD when I called, I wish I had gone to the movie.So I take it the celebration wasn't what you expected?
€uroMeinke
06-10-2007, 09:38 AM
As I told GD when I called, I wish I had gone to the movie.
Hope everyone had a blast!
You would have particularly enjoyed the night as the DJs were spinning some country music in the mix.
blueerica
06-10-2007, 10:04 AM
The movie was fantastic, and I couldn't have asked for more. It was the first time I've seen H&M, great atmosphere... I really missed the Cemetery Screenings!
BarTopDancer
06-10-2007, 10:10 AM
So I take it the celebration wasn't what you expected?
Nope. It was super mobbed, they ran out of food and people were acting like a hot and tired mob instead of a group there to celebrate their team. It "started at 6:30" which meant that some unknown cover band singing unknown songs played until 7:40. Then the players came via bus and a red carpet, spoke for a few minutes and it was over. We actually left at 7:15 and I watched the rest at home. The view and company at home was much better than there.
It was very anti-climatic after seeing the winning game and celebration on the ice too.
Live and learn. :)
You would have particularly enjoyed the night as the DJs were spinning some country music in the mix.
Aww man :(
Babette
06-10-2007, 11:31 AM
Darn it. June 30th - Roman Holiday
I believe everyone from this board who lives in the LA area is busy that night. I will be flying-in to LAX just one hour too late, and I know most others will be sitting around a campfire. :( waaaaaaa!
Cadaverous Pallor
06-10-2007, 11:33 AM
We had a great time last night. Even though there were a lot of people there, it was a very relaxing evening. We ate and ate and lay back and enjoyed. I just adore that movie. We toasted the far-away wedding with champagne and wished they were there.
blueerica
06-10-2007, 11:43 AM
And some of us even inadvertently launched cork attacks on far away groups!
blueerica
06-14-2007, 09:53 PM
Anyone going on either date this weekend? I'm still deciding, and it depends on how much I can accomplish... Holy Mountain has my interests piqued, and Rebel Without a Cause is such a classic...
BarTopDancer
06-14-2007, 09:56 PM
Nope. I'll be at the Keith Urban concert.
[you may all groan and roll your eyes now]
€uroMeinke
06-14-2007, 09:57 PM
The Bulletin from the Cemetery Screening for Holy Mountain is entitled "Psychedelic Picnic" - If that's not a call fro some hippy love theming - well, I don't know what is.
Rebel would be great there, but having never seen Holy Mountain and hearing what an outsider pic it's likely to be, that would definitely be my choice (if forced to choose) - even if I lack the appropriate hippy gear.
blueerica
06-14-2007, 10:07 PM
I will decide later - I think Sunday will be the better of two options in terms of making sure I get stuff done in time.
Anyone else?
Ghoulish Delight
06-14-2007, 10:49 PM
Holy Mountain would be our first choice, but the respective Father's, of whom the day is named, command our attention.
Undecided re: Rebel
€uroMeinke
06-14-2007, 11:19 PM
Holy Mountain would be our first choice, but the respective Father's, of whom the day is named, command our attention.
Undecided re: Rebel
Hippy Father's Day!
(They'd love it)
innerSpaceman
06-16-2007, 07:58 PM
There's a good chance I'll be there for Holy Mountain tomorrow night. I'm just too darned intriged.
And I wanna dance naked.
Not Afraid
06-16-2007, 07:58 PM
I'm not sure if I want to see ISM dance naked, but we're planning on going.
€uroMeinke
06-16-2007, 08:01 PM
You know, I was wondering how I could dress for the theme of this show and now I realize I just need to abandon the concept of "dress"...
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
06-16-2007, 08:35 PM
Damn, Holy Mtn or TRON - such a tough choice!
Seriously, if you all see Holy Mtn, you ALL need to rent Sante Sangre!
Here are some interviews with Jodorowski:
http://www.shanatinglipton.com/jodo1.html
And some of his Graphic Novel work:
The Incal
http://www.humanoids-publishing.com/news/news.php?id=119&idx=10
(I was lucky enough to work on the English translation of the 2nd book in the Incal series.)
The Metabarons:
http://www.humanoids-publishing.com/news/news.php?id=122&idx=10
€uroMeinke
06-16-2007, 10:54 PM
Damn, Holy Mtn or TRON - such a tough choice!
Holy Mountain
Ghoulish Delight
06-16-2007, 11:45 PM
Well, we just watched it on DVD.
Anyone going, you are in for a treat. Wow.
€uroMeinke
06-17-2007, 12:13 AM
Just got a note from my niece, she tried to go, but it was sold out by the time she got there.
innerSpaceman
06-17-2007, 09:36 AM
Huh?
What was sold out??
Ghoulish Delight
06-17-2007, 10:01 AM
I'm assuming he means Rebel. If Holy Mountain sold out some time before midnight last night, I'm glad I'm not going.
blueerica
06-17-2007, 10:33 AM
I'm glad that they've got two screenings this weekend - granted, I can't go, but I can't help but wonder if it might split the crowds a bit. Though some people would go both nights (good for Cinespia), there are probably a good portion of Screening devotees that would only go to one or the other. It just seems as though there are more people than ever.
In the same vein, I'm also pretty stoked that they're doing Hamlet on Fridays & Sundays - I hope it may have a similar effect on the crowds. They could easily double their money by adding that extra night - even if they didn't put on films.
€uroMeinke
06-17-2007, 04:12 PM
The poster looks cool:
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w206/chinchillah3/Holy-Mountain.jpg
Not Afraid
06-17-2007, 04:16 PM
Anyone going? I'm on the fence.
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
06-17-2007, 04:25 PM
No one's going? :(
Not Afraid
06-17-2007, 04:26 PM
We are.
Steve is.
I just might sleep through it.
mousepod
06-17-2007, 04:45 PM
I just watched the new DVD with Heather on Friday. It was probably the 6th or 7th time I've seen it, and Heather's first. This new DVD (and I assume the new print) is a revelation.
You will not sleep through it, NA.
Ghoulish Delight
06-18-2007, 07:04 AM
I just watched the new DVD with Heather on Friday. It was probably the 6th or 7th time I've seen it, and Heather's first. This new DVD (and I assume the new print) is a revelation.
You will not sleep through it, NA.
Some of the sound quality in the restoration is tragic. Lost to the ages. The picture is absolutely beautiful, but there were definitely some parts of the audio that they were unable to fully restore.
innerSpaceman
06-18-2007, 07:58 AM
I am frankly astounded that anyone likes that film. IMO, a horrible collection of purely random garbage and infantile symbolism.
It all became clear to me after the film (alas, too late) when Bornieo explained the filmmaker's process in creating a work of purported "surrealism" was not to indulge in mind-altering substances, but rather to write under the influence of severe sleep deprivation.
I frelling hated it.
Not Afraid
06-18-2007, 10:00 AM
You will not sleep through it, NA.
You were so right! I found this to be a fascinating film, visually incredible. Each shot was a beautiful composition filled with symbolism, homages and references. I had flashbacks of John Waters and Peter Greenaway (but, of course, this was done first). I was surprised there was actually a linear storyline throughout it all.
innerSpaceman
06-18-2007, 10:12 AM
Instead, I fell asleep at several points.
Reverse chronology homages to Greenaway??! Another reason for me to have skipped it.
Ghoulish Delight
06-18-2007, 10:14 AM
I was surprised there was actually a linear storyline throughout it all.
Same here. Especially after that opening scene, the rest of the movie was not at all what I expected. And I'm glad. While I love abstraction and surrealism, I personally prefer it to be tied to some sort of coherent message, rather than abstraction for abstraction's sake.
I too thought it was visually stunning, and while symbolically straight-forward still addressed some pretty interesting questions.
innerSpaceman
06-18-2007, 12:10 PM
Please, PLEASE someone tell me what was the "coherent message" and what interesting questions did it address?
I'm not being either facetious or sarcastic here. I truly could not make out anything like a coherent or incoherent message of any kind, nor did I find any questions addressed, interesting or un.
Ghoulish Delight
06-18-2007, 12:35 PM
Well, it started as a referendum on the christianity, the concept of forgiveness, and the commercialization of the church and Christ. It said, to me at least, "Y'all may be paying lip service to the whole bible thing, but the God in the bible is clearly not the God you're worshiping. So what DOES the god you're worshiping really look like?"
That brings it up to the point where Jesus scales the red tower. That's a bit of a transition point, the character definitely lost his identity as Jesus from there. I'll admit to being a bit lost as to what exactly was meant by the removing of that thing from him, perhaps simply a return to his mortal state, to re-experience this new world he was resurrected in. And then it became an exploration of the spiritual journey, of the concepts of meditation and higher consciousness, as well as throwing in some sarcastic social commentary for fun. And the message in the end was, while it's always important to open your eyes and mind to the reality that our earthly needs, wants, emotions, and desires are largely, if not entirely, of our own making, that it does not invalidate the human experience.
That's my read. It was obviously not a particularly literal storyline, and can certainly be seen in a very different light than I saw it in, but it had a very linear progression of events, following a single character through a pretty discrete journey.
Moonliner
06-18-2007, 12:57 PM
Well, it started as a referendum on the christianity, the concept of forgiveness, and the commercialization of the church and Christ. It said, to me at least, "Y'all may be paying lip service to the whole bible thing, but the God in the bible is clearly not the God you're worshiping. So what DOES the god you're worshiping really look like?"
That brings it up to the point where Jesus scales the red tower. That's a bit of a transition point, the character definitely lost his identity as Jesus from there. I'll admit to being a bit lost as to what exactly was meant by the removing of that thing from him, perhaps simply a return to his mortal state, to re-experience this new world he was resurrected in. And then it became an exploration of the spiritual journey, of the concepts of meditation and higher consciousness, as well as throwing in some sarcastic social commentary for fun. And the message in the end was, while it's always important to open your eyes and mind to the reality that our earthly needs, wants, emotions, and desires are largely, if not entirely, of our own making, that it does not invalidate the human experience.
That's my read. It was obviously not a particularly literal storyline, and can certainly be seen in a very different light than I saw it in, but it had a very linear progression of events, following a single character through a pretty discrete journey.
I fell asleep just trying to read that.
I think I'll go with ISM's review on this one...
innerSpaceman
06-18-2007, 01:33 PM
Mmmm, ok.
Points taken, GD.
But I still hated it.
Perhaps my expectations were clouded by anticipation of drug-influences, and not sleep-deprivation influences. Psychedelia was used in illustrations on all promotional materials (cyber and poster) by Cinespia .... and I was misled down the garden path. I'm not sure what sleep-deprivation visuals look like exactly, but there must be some distinction.
Heheh, during the pre-movie DJ set, we were remarking how the clear psychedelic influences of Pink Floyd were remarkably influenced in fact - not by psychedelics - but by alcoholics. I would expect a different sound from that kind of influence ... and certainly different poster art. :iSm:
* * * *
But hey, you can't beat The Haunting projected on a mausoleum wall in a cemetery. Next Week will be GREAT!
blueerica
06-18-2007, 01:50 PM
I don't believe I can make it. :(
€uroMeinke
06-18-2007, 06:53 PM
I enjoyed it. GD did a great job capturing a lot of the film, but I'd add the homages to Un Chien Andelou (sp?) (ants crawling on the hands, animals emerging from wounds, the eye imagery, etc.) which puts it squarely in the surrealist camp for me.
I also enjoy the playing around with symbols - the Tarot elements, the planets ( and the bit of gender-bending reversing the some of the traditional sexes of those rolls) I think they was also some play on the Enneagram (which I believe have their origin in Christian and Sufi mysticism by way of Gurjieff) since that was the prominant symbol of "the master."
All in all a spiritual quest film, which ultimately satirizes traditional spiritualism. There's lots also to say about the closing scene and the "immortality" actually obtained by the questors.
But I'm a sucker for mystical symbolism.
I think this would pair nicely with some Felini
I don't get the sleep deprivation criticism - long held practice of mystics, I'll vouch that the hallucinations obtained through these means give the chemically induced ones a run for the money. But surrealism isn't necessarily about altered states of consciousness, rather about altered states of reality.
In any case, the Haunting should be a hoot.
Not Afraid
06-18-2007, 07:10 PM
While the plot and symbolic imagery were interesting to me, the film was such a visual smörgåsbord, it kept me fascinated throughout.
Gemini Cricket
06-18-2007, 07:30 PM
The Haunting is my favorite horror movie.
I don't know what my schedule will be like this weekend.
I want to do this and the subs on Sunday but we'll have to see.
:)
Kevy Baby
06-18-2007, 07:56 PM
While the plot and symbolic imagery were interesting to me, the film was such a visual smörgåsbord, it kept me fascinated throughout.Mojo to NA for knowing how to put in the umlaut and whatever that thing over the "a" is called.
And I KNOW that someone will be letting me know what that thing is called.
Not Afraid
06-18-2007, 07:59 PM
No mojo for me. It is the magic of using Firefox ... with spell check.
Cadaverous Pallor
06-18-2007, 08:08 PM
Perhaps my expectations were clouded by anticipation of drug-influences, and not sleep-deprivation influences. Psychedelia was used in illustrations on all promotional materials (cyber and poster) by Cinespia .... and I was misled down the garden path. I'm not sure what sleep-deprivation visuals look like exactly, but there must be some distinction.Drawing a line between psychadelia, surrealism, hallucinations - dude, I can't follow that line of reasoning. This was easily the most tripped out, f'd up, crazy ass sht I've ever seen, and the idea that this is not a trip out movie, not a psychedelic movie, not a movie that would be enhanced by drugs, is be-YOND me. I must see this again.
ETA - while typing this post I decided to pick up a copy at half.com.
Prudence
06-18-2007, 09:01 PM
And I KNOW that someone will be letting me know what that thing is called.
Wikipedia says it's a ring.
innerSpaceman
06-19-2007, 08:05 AM
With all due respect, CP ... I have a wide variety of experience with all sorts of altered states, and have talked with tons of similarly experienced people about the topic.
As €uro correctly pointed out, sleep deprivation is likely the most hallucinative state. But it's hardly the most creative one. There are many altered states which produce bizarre effects ... but I don't necessarily want to see the movies created under them.
I guess the title "holy mountain" and the lauded sponsorship of John Lennon led to expect more of an eastern bent to the film, which instead was too obsessed with christianity for my tastes. And yeah, the "brand" of surrealism was not psychedelic ... and I was not being facetious when I said it all became clear to me when I learned the director got his inspiration by depriving himself of sleep. That is a hallucinatory, but primarily nastyass state of being.
Not that everything fits into tight little boxes of surrealism. As I also said, I was very surprised to learn that the members of Pink Floyd got high exclusively on alcohol ... and yet consistently produced psychedelic works of music.
In any case, holy mountain was just too scattered, random, ugly and infantile for my personal tastes. I'm sorry I didn't like it. There's plenty of surreal art and movies I do enjoy ... but this wasn't one of them.
Ick.
innerSpaceman
06-19-2007, 08:10 AM
The Haunting is my favorite horror movie.
I don't know what my schedule will be like this weekend.
I hope you can make it to both.
But, er, if you can't .... can you bring zapppop's air mattress with you to the Paramount lot - - and throw it over the wall during the cemetery screening? I need it for camping. Thanks, luv.
:cheers:
Not Afraid
06-19-2007, 10:48 AM
Saturday, july 14
one flew over the cuckoo's nest
directed by Milos forman (1975, 133 min.)
Gates at 7:30 pm. Film at 9:00pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
small town talk spins before and after the show.
Saturday, July 21
Suspiria
directed by dario argento (1977, 98 min.)
Gates at 7:30 pm. Film at 9pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
dj jun spins before and after the show.
innerSpaceman
06-19-2007, 11:36 AM
Ooooh, I've never seen Suspira (in fact, I don't even think I've heard of it.)
So much the better.
* * *
If we go to Cuckoo's Nest, we should all wear straight-jackets! ;)
SzczerbiakManiac
06-20-2007, 12:18 PM
Mojo to NA for knowing how to put in the umlaut and whatever that thing over the "a" is called.Yup, it's a ring. And when placed over an "a", it's pronounced like a long "O" as in "oh".
Chernabog
06-20-2007, 12:56 PM
Ooooh, I've never seen Suspira (in fact, I don't even think I've heard of it.)
OMG I am so going to Suspiria -- it is one of my absolute favorite horror movies. It's about this american girl who goes to this dance academy in Germany where there's certain occult doings going on in the background.
But they story isn't important. Suspiria is all about the visuals, the atmospheric dread and the over the top violence. It was one of the last films to be shot in the 3-strip technicolor, so all primary colors look fantastic (it is lit specifically for that process). Also the theme song is rather creepy.
Dario Argento is one of the great Italian horror directors, and Suspiria is (arguably) his masterpiece. The first time I saw Suspira I was alone in a darkened apartment and it seriously freaked me out.
Eliza Hodgkins 1812
06-20-2007, 01:42 PM
OMG I am so going to Suspiria -- it is one of my absolute favorite horror movies. It's about this american girl who goes to this dance academy in Germany where there's certain occult doings going on in the background.
But they story isn't important. Suspiria is all about the visuals, the atmospheric dread and the over the top violence. It was one of the last films to be shot in the 3-strip technicolor, so all primary colors look fantastic (it is lit specifically for that process). Also the theme song is rather creepy.
Dario Argento is one of the great Italian horror directors, and Suspiria is (arguably) his masterpiece. The first time I saw Suspira I was alone in a darkened apartment and it seriously freaked me out.
The blind man and his dog. THE BLIND MAN AND HIS DOG! That was awesome.
Prudence
06-20-2007, 01:45 PM
I've actually seen Suspiria, and I didn't like it. It rather annoyed me, actually. (Probably because I wasn't seeing it for its arty bits, but rather for its contributions to the sub-genre of movies about boarding schools that are fronts for satanic cults.) And I've been trying to remember the name of it for years, so thanks for jogging my memory.
Chernabog
06-20-2007, 02:45 PM
^^ If you want a logical plot, it ain't there. Most Italian horror films are about the atmosphere rather than the plot, so if you're looking for explanations you're going to be annoyed.
Suspiria is supposed to be dream-like. The director actually said that some of the scary journey that the protagonist goes through is supposed to be like Snow White -- the scared little girl against the evil witch.
Not Afraid
06-20-2007, 03:04 PM
I can't wait to see it! It sounds very interesting.
€uroMeinke
06-20-2007, 07:28 PM
I always wanted to go to an occult boarding school...
Gemini Cricket
06-20-2007, 07:45 PM
I sooooo remember the trailer for Suspiria when it aired on HBO. Freaked the hell out of me as a kid...
And here it is. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8zbV_fFkYs)
Not Afraid
06-20-2007, 07:49 PM
SUSPERIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cadaverous Pallor
06-21-2007, 08:17 AM
I love Cuckoo's nest but it's such a downer...Susperia has me intrigued.
innerSpaceman
06-21-2007, 08:42 AM
Yeah, I'm gonna give Cuckoo's Nest a pass. I'm kinda tired of movies I've already seen ... unless there's something extremely special about them.
Much more interested in new finds ... Susperia is a go.
Oh, and The Haunting this weekend is extremely special.
I'd never seen The Haunting before and it was on TMC the other night. I could only get through about 25 minutes before cleaning the kitchen seemed more appealing.
The atmosphere of a cemetery screening would probably help a lot, though.
One question about movies there, how is the sound? At least the 30 minutes has a lot of voiceover and even on TV it seemed a bit muted.
Ghoulish Delight
06-21-2007, 09:27 AM
The sound is surprisingly good in the cemetery.
innerSpaceman
06-21-2007, 09:58 AM
I beg to differ. The sound is abysmal.
We sit in the "chairs" section, off to one side, so one channel of the stereo mix is inordinantly prominent, to ill effect. Perhaps there's a better mix in the "floor" section.
Also, the speakers are so far out from the screen that the illusion of dialoge synch is hard to come by. This problem is more prominent with older films, it seems.
Um, but the sound sure is loud, if that's what's meant by "good sound."
* * * *
I'm gonna try to get there early Saturday ... so hopefully we'll see, er, hear if a closer position helps the sonic experience in any way.
In any event, The Haunting is a fantastic film, atmospherically abetted by being shown in a cemetary.
Ghoulish Delight
06-21-2007, 10:03 AM
What I mean by "surprisingly good" is that I never have a problem making out dialog. It's outside, I have zero expectation of theater, or home theater, quality sound. All I need is to be able to hear it well enough to know what's being said, and that's what is delivered.
mousepod
06-21-2007, 11:01 AM
As far as Suspiria not making sense, you also have to remember that almost every Argento movie was edited like crazy by its US distributor. The version that's been circulating for the past several years is uncut. To make the matter especially confusing is the ad line: "The Only Thing More Terrifying Than The Last 12 Minutes Of This Film Are The First 92." No version of this movie was ever longer than 98 minutes.
Oh I hope we're living there by the time this movie shows...
innerSpaceman
06-21-2007, 11:26 AM
GD's expectations for outdoor sonic quality are somewhat lower than mine.
Um, it's 2007. These people rake in rougly $15,000 every weekend. I've heard excellent outdoor soundsystems since the early 80's. No excuse.
Chernabog
06-21-2007, 01:30 PM
Um, it's 2007. These people rake in rougly $15,000 every weekend. I've heard excellent outdoor soundsystems since the early 80's. No excuse.
Awww come on, that money goes to keep Svetlana Kiev (and her undead buddies) grave markers nice and shiny. (I really really want to see Night of the Living Dead there!!!)
I didn't notice the sound system was so awful when we saw Gilda, but then again, that movie itself doesn't exactly have 5.1 surround ;)
Gemini Cricket
06-22-2007, 02:44 PM
I just told iSm that I'd go to the cemetery, but I'm so freakin' tired. I need to catch up on sleep. Maybe I'll just drop off the mattress to him and bail.
On the other hand, I do need to get out. I haven't seen fun folk in awhile.
On the other other hand, I will see fun folk on Sunday... bright and early.
:insert Marge Simpson murmur here:
innerSpaceman
06-22-2007, 02:49 PM
Fun and friends are more important than sleep!
Yes L-A and K! will be at the cemetary. We're having beach picnic on Venice Beach in the afternoon, followed immediately by lawn picnic at the cemetary, followed by a spooky film in a graveyard, followed by non-slumber party at my place, followed by a day at Disneyland!
omg, I got exhausted just writing that.
No more whining, Mister!
Not Afraid
06-22-2007, 03:14 PM
We MAY end up coming a bit late(er) than usual. I've got a VERY busy day tomorrow and we'll have to see what time i get done.
€uroMeinke
06-22-2007, 04:04 PM
I just told iSm that I'd go to the cemetery, but I'm so freakin' tired. I need to catch up on sleep. Maybe I'll just drop off the mattress to him and bail.
Hello? You're bringing a mattress - just blow it up and nap in the cemetery
Gemini Cricket
06-22-2007, 04:05 PM
Hello? You're bringing a mattress - just blow it up and nap in the cemetery
iSm doesn't like my snoring.
;)
Not Afraid
06-22-2007, 04:09 PM
He should talk!
innerSpaceman
06-22-2007, 04:13 PM
Snorers hate other snorers. :p
Gemini Cricket
06-22-2007, 04:15 PM
I don't mind my own snoring.
innerSpaceman
06-22-2007, 04:15 PM
That's ok, I don't mind my own shower sex noises.
Gemini Cricket
06-22-2007, 04:19 PM
That's ok, I don't mind my own shower sex noises.
The next time I'm over for a slumber party, remind me not to use your Water Pik, iSm.
:D
Cadaverous Pallor
06-23-2007, 12:19 AM
GD's expectations for outdoor sonic quality are somewhat lower than mine.
Um, it's 2007. These people rake in rougly $15,000 every weekend. I've heard excellent outdoor soundsystems since the early 80's. No excuse.No excuse necessary. I am always pleasantly surprised when the movie starts and the sound is crystal clear. It always exceeds my expectations.
<insert joke about age-related deafness>
innerSpaceman
06-23-2007, 08:25 AM
The sound was actually good for Holy Mountain, but totally craptacular for Vertigo. I think those were the only two I've been to this year, so I'll reserve judgment on this season's sound till tonight's screening.
€uroMeinke
06-23-2007, 09:00 AM
I do enjoy the DJ sets
blueerica
06-23-2007, 12:17 PM
I wonder how much they have going out in expenses, how much goes toward restoration, etc... I should check this out.
Not Afraid
06-23-2007, 12:35 PM
Saturday, July 28 (http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/6/)
The Red Shoes
(http://www.cinespia.org/calendar/6/) http://www.cinespia.org/_img_calendar/calendar_redshoes.jpg directed by michael powell + emeric pressburger (1948, 133 min.)
Gates at 7:30 pm. Film at 9pm. $10 donation tickets available at gate.
dj spins before and after the show.
€uroMeinke
06-23-2007, 02:09 PM
Looks like we'll be missing the Haunting tonight - have fun, watch for cold chills and June Bugs, and we'll see most of you in the morning.
Bornieo: Fully Loaded
06-23-2007, 02:20 PM
:( so who is going?
blueerica
06-23-2007, 02:22 PM
Sadly, I will not... I have family matters to attend to.
€uroMeinke
06-23-2007, 02:57 PM
:( so who is going?
I know Steve & Isaac are
innerSpaceman
06-24-2007, 06:17 AM
It was me and zapppop and Gemini Cricket and SuPeR K! and Leigh-Ann ... and that was the rudest audience ever. Drunk people who had no control over themselves, tons of people who were obviously not movie fans or there to enjoy the film (or let others do so).
I know there are camp elements to The Haunting and I'm fine with people having a good time. But the proceedings were generally treated as a comedy, or with disdain and disappointment by people who were somehow expecting Friday the 13th XXII.
Incessant talking, constant walking, and faux-funny screaming that had none of the comic genius of TUESDAY (for those who recall The Shining in better days of Cemetery screenings)
One particular group would not SHUT UP. People around them kept telling them to be quiet, and - 'natch - I had to finally yell at them that they were not alone in their living room, but rather in a crowd of 2500 people.
(Um, that works out to $25,000 an evening ... and yes, they can afford a better sound system.)
On the plus side, it was neat to see The Haunting projected large ... especially on a mausoleum wall. And the "spike" system of not having our space encroached on by restroom wanderers and neighbors worked better than we could have ever hoped.
But while GC and I knew the film would never, in a crowd, be exactly the same movie neither one of us can watch alone at night, in the dark ... it was very disappointing to experience the lack of respect evident in last night's crowd.
I'm thinking more and more that it's time to find something new. Not only has word got out to the masses, the new crowds are the unwashed masses.
Ghoulish Delight
06-24-2007, 04:29 PM
At the very least it's time to stop attending the more popular films.
I think part of the problem this year is that they're publishing the lineup farther in advance, rather than just 1 or two weeks. It means, knowing what movie is being shown, more people plan to come. Feh, I want my small, elitist crowd that goes for the experience, not the film.
blueerica
06-24-2007, 04:32 PM
This is terribly disappointing news.
mousepod
06-24-2007, 04:46 PM
I'm saddened by this news. I've yet to attend a Cemetery Screening - I figured we would this summer. Now it sounds like the story I recently shared about my experiences at The Castro here in SF. Hipper than thou audiences treating classic as camp. Boo. Hiss.
BarTopDancer
06-24-2007, 05:09 PM
Boo.
Feh, I want my small, elitist crowd that goes for the experience, not the film.
Sounds like the crowd there last night was there for an experience not for the movie.
Ghoulish Delight
06-24-2007, 05:31 PM
Sounds like the crowd there last night was there for an experience not for the movie.
But not The experience. It sounds like The Haunting has acquired a cult ironic following, as opposed to the crowd in the past which actually appreciated classic films in a non-ironic way.
I don't think it's time to be scared off entirely yet. We've been to 2 this season, and they were both great, even Harold and Maude which drew a large, but appreciative, crowd.
Maybe the crowd simply grew bored because, quite frankly (and I saw the rest of it the other night and mostly say this to tweak at Steve though I am being honest in my opinion), The Haunting sucks and the only way to enjoy it is ironcally.
€uroMeinke
06-24-2007, 10:28 PM
Cemetery Screenings were also featured this month in a Los Angeles Magazine Article on outdoor cinema.
innerSpaceman
06-25-2007, 08:18 AM
I ... say this to tweak at Steve though I am being honest in my opinion), The Haunting sucks and the only way to enjoy it is ironcally.
You're entitled to that opinion, but would you be rude enough to scream loudly "Thank God" when "The End" appeared on the screen?
I doubt it. But someone didn't care to have that kind of restraint.
There's a difference between boredom and crassness.
Chernabog
06-25-2007, 09:15 AM
Maybe the crowd simply grew bored because, quite frankly (and I saw the rest of it the other night and mostly say this to tweak at Steve though I am being honest in my opinion), The Haunting sucks and the only way to enjoy it is ironcally.
It isn't a fast-moving picture, of course. It is moody and atmospheric, taking a lot of time to get around to stuff a-happenin'. It is a classic Haunted House movie, one of the absolute best. Not only because it is creepy, but because it can be analyzed in so many different ways (I remember writing a paper back in college on the sexuality present in The Haunting). It is quite multilayered with interesting characters.
Yes, Eleanor is a repressed twit (or a repressed twa*, depending on your viewpoint). She has a semi-idiotic internal dialogue. But that doesn't make the movie "suck" (granted, you aren't giving us reasons for your opinion).
Perhaps the audience at the screening was expecting Hostel Part 3, or a William Castle campfest (noooooo I take it back, I doubt they know who William Castle was).
The Haunting is certainly NOT meant to be ironic. But perhaps with our 21st century jaded sensibilities, it can no longer be enjoyed on the big screen with a large audience. (Or a very large, very drunk/stoned audience, which is what I thought was rather obnoxious at "Gilda"... I mean..... come on, Gilda is NOT a "better enjoyed stoned" type of movie. Plus that is no excuse for simply turning around and having drunken/stoned conversations loudly with your friends that have nothing to do with the movie, i.e. at Gilda).
"Night of the Living Dead" is the same way... it's pretty damn scary when you watch it alone or with a friend late at night. But with a "Haunting" audience like the one on Saturday? I'd avoid it like a zombie plague.
I remember going to a screening of "The Exorcist" when they added new footage a few years back. The audience was laughing hysterically at what was once horrific.
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