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Snowflake
11-01-2007, 08:39 AM
Okay, I use FP 2002 for my website, it's not optimal, but it's what I use. I encrypt the site using webcryptpro. I use firefox as my browser. I used to use McAfee as my antivirus/firewall/etc. and just installed the full version of AVG. Other than that, no changes to my PC from before my vacation. No troubles, up until last night.
I made some updates to the site and was preparing to encrypt the pages before uploading. Webcrypt started to encrypt and I get an error message about permissions. I close it down, go back to FP and try to open the page that had a problem. FP will now not open the page as it is now a firefox document and I need to adjust the permissions. Two pages are now not editable or openable in FP due to this malarky. The weird thing is, neither of those pages was edited or changed in any way.
I'm not sure where to start, well, I did start by posting to a FP board at the microsoft site. But, jeez, what could cause this to happen? All was good before I was on vacation, I did updates a few days before I left. I have no idea how to fix this and will be very annoyed if I have to go back and now recreate the whole damn thing in some new WYSIWYG software.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr:mad:
BarTopDancer
11-01-2007, 08:50 AM
What is the error message?
Snowflake
11-01-2007, 08:57 AM
What is the error message?
I'll have to get that when I get home. I'll do a print screen later today.
Snowflake
11-01-2007, 04:40 PM
Well, well, well, it appears that 2 of the files have a virus (where that came from, don't ask me!)
Hijacker.Small.jf
So, what AVG does is lock the file so I can't open it, it moves it to the "virus vault" where I tell it to heal it. I instruct AVG to retore the file, it does, still locked with the virus apparently.
Any suggestions what to do next? How can I clean the file and restore it if AVG won't?
Interesting that nothing like this ever turned up with free AVG and McAfee and all the other scans I've run. So, I guess that person I thought was a nutball who said her virus puppy screamed when she visited my site, was right. Sue me!
BarTopDancer
11-01-2007, 04:47 PM
naplam.
ok, no useful ideas yet. But I'll try to think of something useful.
Moonliner
11-01-2007, 05:42 PM
Well, well, well, it appears that 2 of the files have a virus (where that came from, don't ask me!)
Hijacker.Small.jf
So, what AVG does is lock the file so I can't open it, it moves it to the "virus vault" where I tell it to heal it. I instruct AVG to retore the file, it does, still locked with the virus apparently.
Any suggestions what to do next? How can I clean the file and restore it if AVG won't?
Interesting that nothing like this ever turned up with free AVG and McAfee and all the other scans I've run. So, I guess that person I thought was a nutball who said her virus puppy screamed when she visited my site, was right. Sue me!
Would leaving the file in the vault and restoring it from a backup be an option?
Snowflake
11-01-2007, 05:51 PM
Would leaving the file in the vault and restoring it from a backup be an option?
I tried that, here's the info on it
263
and the original message from Front Page when I try to open the files in there (which I now know are locked)
262
Kevy Baby
11-01-2007, 06:47 PM
Wow, you're screwed.
But then again, I don't know what I am talking about.
Snowflake
11-01-2007, 06:53 PM
Well, for jollies (not really) I tried to encrypt a dummy file, that was one that would open in FP. The moment the encrypting software started, up pops the threat message, so I guess I'm just not encrypting anything now. It must be something either buggy between avg and the encryption software, or the encrypting software has a virus in it.
So yeah Kevy, I'm screwed
mousepod
11-01-2007, 08:27 PM
I'm currently compiling Quanta+ ... it's an open source web editor that's supposed to be great. I don't think it'll work on windows, though - just linux and unix (and mac, because it's unix-based). I've heard really good things about KompoZer, though, which I believe will work on the windows platform. If you're brave, you might want to dump FP and give it a shot...
If it is the encryption software then switching composers won't work. (But dumping FP is always a good idea)
I'd still say (we discussed this before) to just dump the encryption.
Sounds like you have two problems.
One, getting that virus cleaned, and two, FP.
I don't known if FP is still the same but it always used to add it's own extensions that made pages not work correctly on different browsers. It may have been fixed since then, but it always left a bad taste in my mouth.
I prefer eMacs, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emacs) bbedit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBEdit) or Vim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_%28text_editor%29), but they are more text based as opposed to WYSIWYG. Other than that it's Dreamweaver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Dreamweaver) or KompoZer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KompoZer)
IMO there are many better choices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTML_editors) than FP for editing.
DreadPirateRoberts
11-01-2007, 10:31 PM
Can you send me a copy of the html (beaucare.htm)? I'd be interested to see what it looks like.
It is saved as a single long hexidecimal string. That is what the "encrypting" is, converting plain text to hexi. If I recall correctly from the last time we discussed it the reason Snowflake does this is to make it more difficult to steal the photographs on her site.
Even if you don't ultimately want to stop encoding the files in hexidecimal (though I'd still advocate that you should and find other ways to control the photos) and the changes you've made are important then you can always just upload the unencoded files from FP and have them online that way until you can get the other problem fixed.
DreadPirateRoberts
11-01-2007, 10:40 PM
It is saved as a single long hexidecimal string. That is what the "encrypting" is, converting plain text to hexi. If I recall correctly from the last time we discussed it the reason Snowflake does this is to make it more difficult to steal the photographs on her site.
Even if you don't ultimately want to stop encoding the files in hexidecimal (though I'd still advocate that you should and find other ways to control the photos) and the changes you've made are important then you can always just upload the unencoded files from FP and have them online that way until you can get the other problem fixed.
Please excuse my ignorance, how does this keep you from doing a right click, and save-as on the photos? Aren't they still downloaded as .gif and .jpgs?
It prevents them from being indexed by the search engines. Once actually displayed in the browser nothing will really help prevent individual theft.
Anyway, that is my memory of the last conversation. Snowflake will correct if I'm wrong.
Snowflake
11-08-2007, 09:26 AM
Okay, a follow up.
I emailed both AVG and WebCryptPro to see if the bug was AVG doing too good of a job, Yes, that was exactly so, no bugs in the two corrupted files I sent them. The encryption software had no issues with McAfee (and they run Norton themselves). So, AVG just sent me an email that they would have an update in a patch soon that would solve this problem. Hopefully it will unlock the files it has now locked.
Now comes the search for a new WYSIWYG html editor since I will be someday soon getting a new PC/MAC/Hamster and wheel apparatus.
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