Notice of application to sell alcohol IN Disneyland on display

[Morrigoon]

This isn't a joke. I saw the posted notice when I left this evening. They have the legal notice up, and next to it, a Disney-produced sign explaining that their catering division handles private parties and special events, and that is what they want the license for.

[Alex]

Yeah, currently they get individual one-time liquor licenses for all the private parties held in venues outside of Club 33. Apparently they've finally decided that is too much of a pain in the butt (and is why alcohol at those things is always restricted to a small particular venue even if the party is in a larger area).

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Then I guess the question is whether they'd be tempted to use the license outside of these private parties.

[Snowflake]

Then I guess the question is whether they'd be tempted to use the license outside of these private parties.

A real bar at the Golden Horseshoe, Rum on the Island in the Blue Bayou and a Beer Garden by the Matterhorn would be nice. Change the Village Haus to a German-themed restaurant with sausages and steins of beer. Shrimp on the barbie & beer by the subs. Honey Ale or mead by Pooh would be proper theming.

[JWBear]

How about a Mardi Gras themed bar in NOS. It could serve hurricanes in those yard-long glasses. And there could be AAs (how appropriate!) that stand outside the bar, flashing various body parts for beads, and another one that periodically vomits in the corner…


<crickets>


…Or not….

[Strangler Lewis]

And a place to smoke out with the caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland.

[Snowflake]

And a place to smoke out with the caterpillar from Alice in Wonderland.

Which reminds me, what happened to the caterpillar that used to be on the shroom in the queue for the Alice ride? Only thing left are feet/shoes which I find disturbing. I'm assuming they removed him because he's smoking, right? Not like he's not smoking and blowing rings inside the ride.....or anything

[Morrigoon]

Seems a slippery slope to me. First it's, "Oh we'll only be doing it for private parties" then they'll start doing it for "special events" like merch events, then the argument will be "oh well we already do it for private parties and special events, so serving it during the day is no big deal".

Harumph.

[Magic Mountain]

Walt must be rolling over in his grave. He refused to sell alcohol in his parks.

[Disneyphile]

Well, some people already spike their own Dole Whip floats, so they might as well sell it, because there are some who can't go even a few minutes without the alcohol. Might as well make a buck or twenty off them.

I would be appalled at the decision though, but I wouldn't mind if they offered wine pairings at Blue Bayou. Most people wouldn't hope to get plastered from a glass of wine at dinner.

[Stan4dSteph]

Walt must be rolling over in his grave. He refused to sell alcohol in his parks.He must be pretty dizzy by now then, because they've been serving it in Epcot for years. And also right across the Esplanade.

[Strangler Lewis]

If they made the parks adults only, the money raised from alcohol sales and the "Talk to a Naked Princess" booths would more than offset the lost children's ticket sales.

[Not Afraid]

If they made the parks adults only, the money raised from alcohol sales and the "Talk to a Naked Princess" booths would more than offset the lost children's ticket sales.
I wonder if Walt's errection would prevent him from spinning?

[Alex]

Seems a slippery slope to me. First it's, "Oh we'll only be doing it for private parties" then they'll start doing it for "special events" like merch events, then the argument will be "oh well we already do it for private parties and special events, so serving it during the day is no big deal".

Harumph.

They're already on the slippery slope. They currently sell booze at Club 33 and they already provide or sell it at private parties and special events that occur outside of normal operating hours.

I personally have consumed alcohol served to me by Disney inside Club 33, Fantasyland Theater, Opera House, Plaza Inn, and Innoventions. The last being a martini served through a 20-foot-tall ice sculpture.

Personally, even if it is a slippery slope to beer carts on Main Street, I don't really care. Yes, it will upset the "what about Walt" crowd, but in my experience the availability of alcohol hasn't ruined any other Disney park so I don't think it would ruin Disneyland either.

[Kevy Baby]

The problem with selling alcohol in the parks is/would be the increase in Code V's. Imagine somebody hurling at the top of Space and the lower trains getting a nice shower.

Or don't imagine it ...

[BarTopDancer]

I have mixed feelings about serving alcohol inside DL proper aside from C33 and special events. Times change, but alcohol is already served in DCA and DTD, does it really need to be served inside DL proper as well? Then again alcohol is already served in DCA and DTD. You don't see [many] hurling/sloppy drunks inside the park(s) as it is.

Regardless, what they are stating they want the license for makes sense. If they are getting one time usage licenses on a regular basis, why not go for the license. Does anyone know if the liquor license will state that alcohol can only be served during specific events or times?

[Kevy Baby]

I prognosticate that you will not be seeing alcohol being served in Disneyland (outside of C33 and special events) any time soon.

No specific rationale for this; just my gut feeling.

[Gn2Dlnd]

I agree with Kevy's gut.

[Strangler Lewis]

I'm guessing it won't happen. If they did it, they'd want to advertise it, and if they advertised it, enough number of people who go places just to get drunk and misbehave would show up, and it would lead to bad publicity.

[Morrigoon]

I think only time will tell Kevy. When they opened DCA with alcohol, many of us objected then, saying it was a slippery slope to wanting to sell it in DL. I see this as another step in that direction. Not right away, of course, as the public will have to have time to "get used to the idea". I don't even accuse them of necessarily planning to do it now. Maybe they genuinely think they're only doing this to make serving alcohol at private parties easier. But who's to say that management 10 years from now won't wonder why they aren't just selling it during the day?

Why is it bad to sell alcohol inside DL? Feh... shall I name names?

[alphabassettgrrl]

Why is it bad to sell alcohol inside DL? Feh... shall I name names?

I promise I'll behave!

I kind of like the idea of theming the drinks to the land, but I do worry about public drunkenness since there is a contingent that can't handle themselves. Disneyland has been a haven from them, really.

Though as noted, it isn't really a problem in DCA.

Selling booze in Disneyland is a step toward crass public ... I was going to say consumerism but they already do that. It's something cheap and tawdry, and I think I expect better of Disney on the whole.

[Morrigoon]

abg: I wasn't thinking of anyone on the LoT ;)

[Kevy Baby]

Why is it bad to sell alcohol inside DL? Feh... shall I name names?Again - why is everyone looking at me? It's not like I have a history of bad behavior when I...


Oh, never mind.

[Morrigoon]

Oh yeah... forgot about you, Kevy! ;)

[Disneyphile]

Though as noted, it isn't really a problem in DCA.
I've seen photos from the Cove Bar that would scream otherwise. ;)

And, from what I've heard, some Club 33 memberships have even been suspended due to some guests getting out of hand. :(

I think hard liquor in any of the parks is a bad idea.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I guess I don't go to the right parties.

[Morrigoon]

No ABG, you don't go to the wrong parties ;)

[alphabassettgrrl]

Lately I haven't even been able to get to the right parties.

::sigh::

I should be able to get to swank christmas though! (Does that win me some points?)

[Snowflake]

Lately I haven't even been able to get to the right parties.

::sigh::

I should be able to get to swank christmas though! (Does that win me some points?)

Oh yay! :snap:

[ozron]

We have a license at the zoo. We sell beer and wine at concerts, have full bar at some private catered events, and beer at one restaurant. It's not advertised, and we don't sell a bunch so we've not had too many problems with drunkenness during daytime hours.

Concerts, however....

I will say that many people are confused by the large, mandated signage as you leave the zoo saying "NO ALCOHOL BEYOND THIS POINT"!

[CoasterMatt]

The problem with selling alcohol in the parks is/would be the increase in Code V's. Imagine somebody hurling at the top of Space and the lower trains getting a nice shower.

Or don't imagine it ...
I don't need to imagine it, I saw the results of a similiar incident at a private party about 20 years ago.

[€uroMeinke]

As much as I'd enjoy a cocktail in a tomorowland lounge, if alcohol is served then completely nude strippers will be excluded by law from the park

[Kevy Baby]

As much as I'd enjoy a cocktail in a tomorowland lounge, if alcohol is served then completely nude strippers will be excluded by law from the parkThis is a very good point.

Made more interesting when combined with looking at your current avatar.

[blueerica]

Haha! I picture him saying just about everything looking like that!

[figment1986]

Concerts, however....

I will say that many people are confused by the large, mandated signage as you leave the zoo saying "NO ALCOHOL BEYOND THIS POINT"!

reminds me of the signs at the gates out of universal studios Florida during Halloween horror nights... even the Orlando PD was yelling at CMs not enforcing the sign.

I don't mind special events... but if it goes away from that then i see a problem, Disneyland is not Busch gardens / Sea World (I like my 2 cups of free beer) or even Six Flags. I've seen my fair share of what can happen when alchahall is sold in the parks...

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Which reminds me, what happened to the caterpillar that used to be on the shroom in the queue for the Alice ride? Only thing left are feet/shoes which I find disturbing. I'm assuming they removed him because he's smoking, right? Not like he's not smoking and blowing rings inside the ride.....or anythingIt's a reference to the movie. When he turns into a butterfly he leaves his shoes behind. I have to admit, I'm not sure if the Caterpillar was ever there. I also used to complain about him being "gone".