DSL to Router Help

[BarTopDancer]

I got hooked up with ATT's dry DSL. No landline required!

So I am trying to get my network up and running with it.

Here is what I have so far:

wall > modem > computer = success
wall > modem > router > computer = fail

I need to enter my user name and password created for the modem but she couldn't tell me where. I found some settings called PPPoe which allowed a user name and password to be entered - but it still didn't work.

I was doing some research on Google for the hook-ups and Wikipedia (thanks Andrew!) on PPPoe. Then my brain melted.

Anyone have IT-idiot proof suggestions?
Linksys wireless router
Motorola ATT DSL Modem.

thank you!

[Kevy Baby]

I say to stick with dial-up - it is more dependable.

[Moonliner]

I got hooked up with ATT's dry DSL. No landline required!

So I am trying to get my network up and running with it.

Here is what I have so far:

wall > modem > computer = success
wall > modem > router > computer = fail

I need to enter my user name and password created for the modem but she couldn't tell me where. I found some settings called PPPoe which allowed a user name and password to be entered - but it still didn't work.

I was doing some research on Google for the hook-ups and Wikipedia (thanks Andrew!) on PPPoe. Then my brain melted.

Anyone have IT-idiot proof suggestions?
Linksys wireless router
Motorola ATT DSL Modem.

thank you!

Connect the Modem to the Internet port on the router.

Enter the PPPoe username/pw as given. Save and reboot the router.

Go into the router config, there should be a test screen that will let you ping (try 4.2.2.2) or open a web page. See if that works.

IF YES: Then you need to look at the DHCP settings for your internal LAN

IF NO: I give up.

You can also read here (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19688723-Problems-moving-to-Dry-DSL).

[Prudence]

Contact the linksys customer support people. When I was having trouble, they were the only people capable of deviating from their script and providing the actual help I needed, all without treating me like my ovaries somehow rendered me incapable of understanding home networking.

[blueerica]

Contact the linksys customer support people. When I was having trouble, they were the only people capable of deviating from their script and providing the actual help I needed, all without treating me like my ovaries somehow rendered me incapable of understanding home networking.

But they do render one incapable!! Trust me, I know these sorts of things...

[Moonliner]

Contact the linksys customer support people. When I was having trouble, they were the only people capable of deviating from their script and providing the actual help I needed, all without treating me like my ovaries somehow rendered me incapable of understanding home networking.

Meh. You probably stop and ask for directions when your lost too. :p

[Prudence]

Meh. You probably stop and ask for directions when your lost too. :p

On the contrary. Since I know how to read a map and have a sense of direction, I don't get lost.

[BarTopDancer]

Thank you Moonie! AT&T was very helpful in telling me what I needed to do, they didn't know where to look under my router configuration and I'm just not familiar with these settings.

If that doesn't work then my IT buddies will come over and do it for me.

[blueerica]

Off Topic: J & I were talking about how men & women are supposed to understand directions. Men, north, south, east, west, numbers, etc... Women, landmarks, intuition... We're the opposite of what we're supposed to be. I prefer, "Head north on Washington, then turn east on 31st," while he prefers "Turn left, turn right..." or even better, "Just past the Common Cents store, make a right..."

[Chernabog]

^^ Totally true. I see that difference all the time lol... so frustrating.

Though I think all my Everquest training paid off -- if I see an overhead map of an area, I can usually figure out where I am and where I'm going to, even if there's a forced detour.

SO back on topic -- call me naive here but -- you can have an AT&T DSL line WITHOUT having to pay for a telephone line???? They told us no.... we have a lifeline with AT&T which we never use. All that happens with that line is that people call with advertising.

[BarTopDancer]

^^ Totally true. I see that difference all the time lol... so frustrating.

Though I think all my Everquest training paid off -- if I see an overhead map of an area, I can usually figure out where I am and where I'm going to, even if there's a forced detour.

SO back on topic -- call me naive here but -- you can have an AT&T DSL line WITHOUT having to pay for a telephone line???? They told us no.... we have a lifeline with AT&T which we never use. All that happens with that line is that people call with advertising.

$23.99 a month baby! Link to the Consumerist here (http://consumerist.com/342490/get-att-dry-loopnaked-dsl-in-5-minutes) and this (http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/How-to-Get-2399-ATT-Dry-Loop-DSL-87863) is the site I looked over before I called.

It's part of their merger agreement - along the lines of the super secret $10 a month DSL that no one could ever get access to. This was easy. Took 10 minutes (no hold time) to set up. The modem came in 3 days ($49.99 + $15 shipping, no, they won't wave it) and the service was set up on the date they promised. Customer service has been great too.

[Alex]

I have no idea how Lani and I split along these lines.

If I have a superpower it is that I pretty much never literally get lost. I can read even crappy maps with precision, and if I've ever been somewhere I can almost always get there again (we had good ice cream in a small Oregon town when I was about 12 and I didn't visit that town again for almost 20 years and said "hey, let's see if that ice cream place is still there and went right to it).

So, since when we're both in the car I'm driving it isn't ever an issue.


Oddly, though, I never have any real sense of which direction is north (I mean, I can work it out from the sun if I need to but in terms of just a general sense of compass direction I lose it quickly).


Chernabog, I think phone companies offering DSL without landline is relatively new (when we had DSL we were also told that we couldn't do that but when we moved recently it was option they tried to sell us on but we've been without landline for three years now and won't be going back). Though last time I looked it was almost as much as having both the phone and landline anyway.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Oddly, though, I never have any real sense of which direction is north (I mean, I can work it out from the sun if I need to but in terms of just a general sense of compass direction I lose it quickly).I'm the same way. I'm more of a relative directions kinda guy ("This side of the freeway, past that main street if you're heading towards the big sign"). And yeah, if I've been somewhere once, I can get there again.

[katiesue]

Me too. I'm very good with maps and directions. If I've been there once I can get there again. No idea north/south/east/west though.

[blueerica]

We defy the norm!

I have an internal sense of N,S,E,W and distance. If I've driven somewhere, I can use the force to guide me back, but I prefer concrete names and numbers. Landmarks change, distance and direction never do is more-or-less my philosophy.

Sorry for the massive thread derail, BTD.

I do think it's pretty effing cool that they had the dry DSL available. I had no idea it existed until this thread. Niiiiiice.

[BarTopDancer]

So anyone (besides Moonie) have any actual suggestions they can offer?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Things may have changed, but back when we had DSL, the account was pegged to my computer network card's MAC address. You might want to check the router's interface to see if it has an option to use the computer's MAC address, or to manually enter a different MAC address.

[BarTopDancer]

There is MAC address area. I'll try entering the modems MAC address into there and see what happens.

thank you!

[Ghoulish Delight]

It probably wouldn't be the modem's address. Use your computer's.

[Moonliner]

You can also try this link (http://www.tech-faq.com/setup-linksys-router.shtml)

[Chernabog]

Thanks BTD, I will have to change our service to that!!

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I'm the same way. I'm more of a relative directions kinda guy ("This side of the freeway, past that main street if you're heading towards the big sign"). And yeah, if I've been somewhere once, I can get there again.And I'm the opposite, rather good at knowing where I'm facing on the compass, but useless with revisiting places until the 5th time driving there.

[€uroMeinke]

I'm clueless about points on the compass, I'm all about landmarks.

As a further derail - in college I noticed that in California we tell distance in terms of time instead of miles. I have no clue how many mile it is to San Diego, or Disneyland, but I know how long it should take me to get there. Not so with my East Coast friends.

[Not Afraid]

I'm one that can drive anywhere. I have a great sense of direction if I'm the one driving. However, distance means NOTHING to me.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I'm clueless about points on the compass, I'm all about landmarks.

As a further derail - in college I noticed that in California we tell distance in terms of time instead of miles. I have no clue how many mile it is to San Diego, or Disneyland, but I know how long it should take me to get there. Not so with my East Coast friends.That's because miles are meaningless. Two different destinations can be an equal # of miles apart, and yet take a drastically different amount of time to get to, depending on traffic patterns.

[Alex]

And yet, my experience with most Southern Californians is that while they give distances in time they are almost always horribly wrong about how much time it will take.

I remember a comic I saw on TV when I was a kid who had a joke about how in LA everything is "about 20 minutes away" from wherever you happen to be. I didn't really get it until I began interacting with a lot of people frmo there. That's an exaggeration but sometimes not by much. I'm sure plenty of people really do know the accurate times but a lot don't.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I'm sure plenty of people really do know the accurate times but a lot don't.Yeah, we're part of the few that do. We are continually "early" to everything. "Early" meaning exactly on time while everyone else is consistently late.

[Alex]

I've always wondered if the times people give for distances were culturally set in the '50s and '60s when most of the good highways had been built but hadn't yet been filled with cars. Sure, Valencia is 40 minutes from Anaheim as I've been told...at 3 o'clock in the morning.

Of course, one time while staying in a Hollywood area motel I asked the desk clerk how long it would talk to walk to some restaurant. She literally said "about 20 minutes" and it was really almost an hour-long walk. That's the experience that reminded me of that comic I saw on TV as a child.

[Kevy Baby]

Once, when I was back East (Connecticut) for work, some people were giving me a hard time for how fast people drive in Southern California, I let them know that we do that because of all of the traffic that we are usually stuck in: in the end, it all averages out.