Water: Turns out it's no big deal.

[Moonliner]

New research (http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/features_julieshealthclub/2008/04/water-sustains.html) is showing that a lot of the old information about the health benefits of water was apparently made up and not true. Sure you still need it to live and all but you don't need 8 glasses a day or any of that....

Who would have guessed? No one here that's for sure. Nope not a single person had even a hint this was bogus. Nadda, zippo. All quite on the western front. You think there would have been at least one poster who would spread the truth about water but nope, not here on LoT. This one just flowed right past....

[Ghoulish Delight]

No comment.

[Snowflake]

No comment.

Pretty smug aren't you, buster brown? ;)

[Alex]

I don't see who GD and others who agreed with him can avoid wilting in this face of this rebuttal. So, I officially rescind anything I said in concurrence and revoke any PMs I may have sent on the subject.

I have more to say but it'll have to wait until I return from my ear candling session.


But Fleckenstein, who wrote Health20 with Roanne Weisman, is a firm believer in water's healing properties and tells people to drink seven glass per day.

"Not because I have a study but precisely because there is NO study giving the exact amount - and seven is a sacred number," she said.

[blueerica]

Wow, that's a pretty strong argument for water there, Alex. Har har.

Nice to see it made more public, though. I'd just like people to use more common sense and listening to their own body than rules and statutes on minimum and maximum requirements on any one thing.

[Chernabog]

Something is off with that study though, how can they possibly claim that flushing water through your system has no effects on toxin release? For instance, things like drugs in the system are harder to detect via urinalysis if the person has been drinking lots of water (and is dependent on metabolism as well, of course).

I wonder who was funding the study, can't think that there's an anti-water lobby out there.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

It's GD. He's a one-man anti-water lobbyist, natch.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Something is off with that study though, how can they possibly claim that flushing water through your system has no effects on toxin release? For instance, things like drugs in the system are harder to detect via urinalysis if the person has been drinking lots of water (and is dependent on metabolism as well, of course).

I wonder who was funding the study, can't think that there's an anti-water lobby out there.You didn't read correctly. They didn't claim any such thing. All they said was that there has been no study to prove that it does, or to what degree, or with what side effects, or that water does it any better than coffee, or that it doesn't just relocate the toxins elsewhere, etc. etc. Yes, there is anecdotal evidence, but that's NOT the same as proof.

And no one's anti-water. People are anti-misinformation.

[Chernabog]

You didn't read correctly. They didn't claim any such thing. All they said was that there has been no study to prove that it does, or to what degree, or with what side effects, or that water does it any better than coffee, or that it doesn't just relocate the toxins elsewhere, etc. etc. Yes, there is anecdotal evidence, but that's NOT the same as proof.

I only gave a cursory glance at the study, so perhaps I didn't.... but from what I'm reading from your post... what the hell DID they study? They merely studied that there were no studies? LOL that sounds stupid to me. I mean, if you were going to test water's effect on body toxins, wouldn't you like.... test for answers to the questions above?

[Kevy Baby]

...can't think that there's an anti-water lobby out there.

And no one's anti-water.You are both wrong (http://www.dhmo.org).

Each year, Dihydrogen Monoxide is a known causative component in many thousands of deaths and is a major contributor to millions upon millions of dollars in damage to property and the environment. Some of the known perils of Dihydrogen Monoxide are:
Death due to accidental inhalation of DHMO, even in small quantities.
Prolonged exposure to solid DHMO causes severe tissue damage.
Excessive ingestion produces a number of unpleasant though not typically life-threatening side-effects.
DHMO is a major component of acid rain.
Gaseous DHMO can cause severe burns.
Contributes to soil erosion.
Leads to corrosion and oxidation of many metals.
Contamination of electrical systems often causes short-circuits.
Exposure decreases effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Found in biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions.
Given to vicious dogs involved in recent deadly attacks.
Often associated with killer cyclones in the U.S. Midwest and elsewhere, and in hurricanes including deadly storms in Florida, New Orleans and other areas of the southeastern U.S.
Thermal variations in DHMO are a suspected contributor to the El Nino weather effect.Some of the well-known uses of Dihydrogen Monoxide are:
as an industrial solvent and coolant,
in nuclear power plants,
by the U.S. Navy in the propulsion systems of some older vessels,
by elite athletes to improve performance,
in the production of Styrofoam,
in biological and chemical weapons manufacture,
in the development of genetically engineering crops and animals,
as a spray-on fire suppressant and retardant,
in so-called "family planning" or "reproductive health" clinics,
as a major ingredient in many home-brewed bombs,
as a byproduct of hydrocarbon combustion in furnaces and air conditioning compressor operation,
in cult rituals,
by the Church of Scientology on their members and their members' families (although surprisingly, many members recently have contacted DHMO.org to vehemently deny such use),
by both the KKK and the NAACP during rallies and marches,
by members of Congress who are under investigation for financial corruption and inappropriate IM behavior,
by the clientele at a number of bath houses in New York City and San Francisco,
historically, in Hitler's death camps in Nazi Germany, and in prisons in Turkey, Serbia, Croatia, Libya, Iraq and Iran,
in World War II prison camps in Japan, and in prisons in China, for various forms of torture,
during many recent religious and ethnic wars in the Middle East,
by many terrorist organizations including al Quaeda,
in community swimming pools to maintain chemical balance,
by software engineers, including those producing DICOM software SDKs,
in animal research laboratories, and
in pesticide production and distribution.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I only gave a cursory glance at the study, so perhaps I didn't.... but from what I'm reading from your post... what the hell DID they study? They merely studied that there were no studies? LOL that sounds stupid to me. I mean, if you were going to test water's effect on body toxins, wouldn't you like.... test for answers to the questions above?That wasn't their goal. Their goal was to try to get people to realize that 99% of "medical advice" about drinking water is based on absolutely nothing. The toxins thing is only one of the claims of water's miraculous powers addressed in the article. They did not set out to, and never claimed to be trying to, prove or disprove anything about water. All they were trying to do was bring to light the vast amounts of myth, rumor, and pseudoscience that fuels our water-obsessed culture.

Errr, I mean, no comment.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

I interrupt this to say:

Emergency Lemon!!!!!!!

[Ghoulish Delight]

It's a well known fact that drinking the juice from 23 lemons every day will flush toxins from your body (as they leak through the holes that are burned through various organ linings).

[Alex]

I only gave a cursory glance at the study, so perhaps I didn't.... but from what I'm reading from your post... what the hell DID they study? They merely studied that there were no studies? LOL that sounds stupid to me. I mean, if you were going to test water's effect on body toxins, wouldn't you like.... test for answers to the questions above?

It was a metastudy which is a well established perfectly respectable endeavor. They weren't doing original research they were examining the body of research that existed to see if it supported the claims being made.