Survivor is tonight! (Weds)

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Just wanted to let anyone know who might not be aware that Survivor is on Wednesday this week. :)

Let's see those losers keep on losing!

[MickeyLumbo]

thanks, i be watching tonight. hope to see you sunday!

[Not Afraid]

You know, I'd rather stay home and watch it than drive to UCLA.

[scaeagles]

That was seiously brutal for Ulong last night.

[Moonliner]

Sing it with me:

Angie, I still love you, remember all those nights we cried?
All the dreams we held so close seemed to all go up in smoke
Let me whisper in your ear:
Angie, angie, where will it lead us from here?
Oh, angie, don’t you weep, all your kisses still taste sweet
I hate that sadness in your eyes
But angie, angie, ain’t it time we said good-bye?
With no loving in our souls and no money in our coats
You can’t say we’re satisfied
But angie, I still love you, baby
Ev’rywhere I look I see your eyes
There ain’t a woman that comes close to you
Come on baby, dry your eyes
But angie, angie, ain’t it good to be alive?
Angie, angie, they can’t say we never tried

[Baileykat]

That was a priceless episode...we were literally laughing out loud when Jeff told Kuror they were bestowing immunity..."They're going with Ibraham!"...you just knew it was gonna happen!

Total look of shock on everyone's faces...priceless!


And total crap...looks like it's gonna be sticky for my man Tom for a while! Can he hold it together and float under the radar for awhile longer?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I'm so bummed about Angie! That sucks. :(

[Baileykat]

I was kinda suprised they went with Angie...I thought they would have gone with James...since he did lose them the last challenge! kinda...

What's the usual number for merging? I can't remember...

[Ghoulish Delight]

I was kinda suprised they went with Angie...I thought they would have gone with James...since he did lose them the last challenge! kinda...

What's the usual number for merging? I can't remember...They usually merge when there are 10 people left. That way, one person gets voted out after the merge, then the rest are on the jury.

[Claire]

Damn. I hate James. I hated his smug ass mug when Angie was voted off and not him. F-er. I'm really glad Ibrehem was spared, but would have liked to see James outta there.

Bye, Angie. I was hoping you'd be there for the merge....really wanted to see Coby and you together again.

And Coby. I'm picking up hints that you're gay. Is that true?

[Mousey Girl]

I too, was hoping to see James gone. He is really bugging me. I liked Angie, she was different and fun to watch.

I thought that Koror should have gotten rid of Caryn over Willard, but I did understand their reasoning.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Steph and Angie were their two best members at challenges. Getting rid of Angie was stupid. I thought for sure Bobby John would vote James off. Damn. Although I would have been kinda sad to see James go, his babbling is always entertaining.

[Mousey Girl]

Once again it is on tonight (Wed) for those of us who are following it. This reminds me to call The Old People, they missed it last week.

[Moonliner]

Two points from last nights episode:

If you take a bunch of people who have not eaten a solid meal in days and give them a can of Pringles and a sweet Mi-tie, someone is gonna puke. What a stupid reward. Although it will make a good trivia question for a future chip... Which TRIBE puked after eating Pringles? Way to go SoLong tribe.

As for the initial vote, you go Girl! First you vote for James in order to keep your street cred since you had an alliance with him, then stab him in the back on the pre-planned vote with BJ. Do you really think that made you look like less of a playa?

[scaeagles]

I agree - Steph has flipped on two consecutive tie votes. If her flipping becomes common knowledge - or that she lied to Bobby John about voting for him the previous council - she's done.

I wouldn't write them off yet, though. My prediction - the merge happens soon. Koror starts the political positioning game within themselves, figuring they have the votes to get rid of the last two or three Ulong members whenever they want, so they start picking each other off. Eventually, the remaining Ulong members get in with the weaker group, and make it to the final 5 or 6. When that happens, anything goes.

This will play out a lot like it did last season with Chris surviving with the 6 women and winning it all.

[Moonliner]

Certianly if the merger happens next episode then the three folks from SoLong will be able to make a deal with the weaker players from Koror. I know I'd be gunning to get rid of Tom before the individual immunities get rolling.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Last season was the first time ever that someone from the minority tribe going into the merge survived. And that was because he had lots of time to work his magic (wasn't he one of the guys who lived with the other tribe for a short time?). For Ulong, BEST case is they win immunity next episode and have 3 people. More likely case, they'll be down to 2 people. It's unlikely they'll have the time to work their way into any deals before they're gone, unless Steph wins immunity a couple times (entirely possible 'cause she kicks ass at challenges).

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Good riddance for James, entertaining as he was. What was that crap about " My god says that it's time for you to go." Anyone else catch that? From that point on, I found him far less entertaining. Not to mention the fact that he did a lot more damage towards that tribe losing immunity challenges than anyone else. First you have the sumo losses, then another that I can't seem to recall right now, then his "I'll make a knot they will never untie" Uh yeah, right. They went through your super duper knot in about 2 minutes.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Oh, and the merge won't happen next episode. It'll happen at 10. It always has, it always will.

[Mousey Girl]

I am sooooo glad James is gone. His comments this week showed him to be rather bigoted. He was so secure that Ib was leaving he played with his skirt for 4 minutes while Koror added to their knots.

On Koror both Caryn and Katie are getting on my nerves...Caryn for her constant whining that Tom is more popular and Katie because she is almost as clueless as Kim, "I thought it would be harder than this." HELLO!!! You think it isn't hard because you haven't done anything!!!

[mousepod]

I was happy to see James go, too. For all his entertaining "southern-ness" he was certainly no "Big Tom" Buchanan. He constantly made promises that he couldn't deliver on "I will build the best bathroom - I will tie a knot that can't be untied - I know how to shoot", he was arrogant, and that "Allah saved you last time, my God says it's time for you to go" crap pushed it over the edge for me. Good riddance.

Heather and I are pulling for Steph at this point. She wound up being one of the strongest Survivor players in one of the worst tribes ever. I'm not sure if she'll last much past the merge, but it'll be fun to see how she plays it.

[scaeagles]

I was glad to see James go. I found it amusing how he was all over Ibraheim for blowing the milk bottle challange, but has blown three all by himself. He deserved to go. And mousepod, he is certainly no Big Tom.

[Claire]

We've been pulling for Steph as well. Very happy to see James go, too. Especially as he'd been so cocky at the last few TCs and then the comment on Allah and "my God" really pissed me off.

We sort of thought Steph screwed up at TC, voting against Bobby Jon and Ibrehim the first time. Ugh. What was she thinking? She owes James no alliance and he's not on the jury, so why do that, then apologize to him in front of the other two??? I hope she didn't just shoot herself in the foot. If I was Ibrehim or BJ, I wouldn't be very happy with that.....I hope she makes it to a merge.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I was glad to see James go. I found it amusing how he was all over Ibraheim for blowing the milk bottle challange, but has blown three all by himself. He deserved to go. And mousepod, he is certainly no Big Tom.And he almost lost that reward by going 0-fer. Even Ibrahim hit one. And Steph was their only real asset. Angie was their other quality challenge player, but they got rid of her.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Yeah, I think Steph may have blown it. Bummer, she's got real potential.

Who'd have thought that such a lopsided show could be so entertaining? I'm totally glued to it this season. I guess rooting for the "good guys" and having them win all the time feels good.

[Mousey Girl]

*bump*

Tonight at 8.

[Stan4dSteph]

Tom totally rocks. He killed a freakin' shark.

Oh and Ulong totally blows. A new Survivor record - a tribe that never won an immunity challenge.

[Mousey Girl]

I am glad that Steph survived. I really thought she was history tonight.

[mousepod]

I was resigned to see Steph go. I'm happy that she didn't get voted out.
Let's see how far she survives after the merge...

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Personally, I think they are both going to picked off rather quickly once the merge takes place. The other team isn't even going to think twice. Then the game gets more interesting as you have a group of people that have been able to bond pretty securely over the past weeks, finally have to start making tough decisions.

I still think Tom is a strong contender although he is obviously going to be perceived as a huge threat after the merge. I do wonder how many individual immunity challenges he could potentially win in a row, especially where strength is a factor. The guy is a stud.

[Mousey Girl]

I loved the looks on his teammates faces when they saw him doing crunches on the beach. I felt bad for Ian and his clam being trumped by Tom and his shark. Ian has really begun to grow on me.

[scaeagles]

Ian just seems like a really nice guy. When he was lamenting his clam find being outdone by the shark, he was laughing about it - I thought it was funny when he said his next plan was to bring in a humpback whale. Coby and.....the other guy could only whine sarcastically. Not liking Coby much.

[Baileykat]

Tom rocks....


That's about all I have to say on that!

[Moonliner]

Two comments on Tom:

1. If I was on Koror that guy would have a bullseye the size of Texas on him. There is no way I want to give him a shot at individual immunity for the rest of the game..

2. You could solve all of SoLong's performance problems real easy. Just move Tom to Solong.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Coby and.....the other guy could only whine sarcastically. Not liking Coby much.Yeah, Coby's annoyingly stuck-up and condescending.

I wish we'd seen him catch the shark.

At this point I don't have anything against Ulong and really felt bad for them for losing the SOS challenge. Theirs was every bit as viewable as Koror's but it was a few feet further up the beach. What a total bummer. :( Since James is gone there's no reason to be pissed at them anymore. Of course now there's just two, so there has to be a merge next week.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Two comments on Tom:

1. If I was on Koror that guy would have a bullseye the size of Texas on him. There is no way I want to give him a shot at individual immunity for the rest of the game.. This is probably moot already, as they'll probably merge next week...but as soon as he doesn't get immunity, he's definitely in danger.

[Nephythys]

Per previews- there is an alliance among members of Koror that INCLUDE Stephanie!!!! So she may not go anywhere anytime soon

[Moonliner]

Per previews- there is an alliance among members of Koror that INCLUDE Stephanie!!!! So she may not go anywhere anytime soon

Before I dare to click on it, is your spoiler for last week, this week, or the season as a whole?

[Mousey Girl]

Season as a whole.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Wow, interesting show tonight. I was sure there was going to be a merge. I'm assuming now that there won't be one from here on out.

She didn't seem to happy about spending the night alone but she'll be ok. She's a pretty strong person. I wonder if she were to beat a player from the other tribe next week, would she spend another 3 days by herself? . I'm not so sure that she couldn't hang on a while longer.


It was nice to see an eating challenge. I always enjoyed those and it's been a while. :)

[Baileykat]

Go Steph!

Woo hoo!

She rocked! I loved the look on "Team Bobby Jon" when he lost! You know he was thinking..."I got beat by a freakin' girl!" He looked so smug..smiling when Jeff revealed the challenge! She kicked his booty! He was getting on my nerves anyway!

And I think if Tom and Ian take Steph with them, they can be unstoppable!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Oh man, that was the WORST eating challenge yet. Bugs, rotten fish, blood, fine. But freaking half developed duck embyros!?!?! Yick.

Finally a REAL twist, the first time ever that there was no merge at 10 people. Makes me think they simply saw Solong get down to 2 people and thought, "Wouldn't it be awesome if we just kept 'em separate and they lost again?" I so wouldn't put it past Burnett to do that.

Interesting little aside about Tom and Ian having a deal with Steph. Must have made it in that instant where there was just one tribe the first couple of days. Interesting to see where that leads. It made me root for Ulong to win immunity just to be sure Steph stuck around so it could play out. Tom and Ian are by far the most deserving on Koror, but they'd have HUGE targets on their back without some sort of sneaky backup plan, and it sounds like Steph my be the key.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Oh, but that final challenge between them was lame. Those torches were too close and too easy to light. It wasn't a fire building challenged, it was a "who's smart enough to build a pile of husks high enough to touch the torch. They might as well have just let them hold the match to the torch.

[Baileykat]

Oh, but that final challenge between them was lame. Those torches were too close and too easy to light. It wasn't a fire building challenged, it was a "who's smart enough to build a pile of husks high enough to touch the torch. They might as well have just let them hold the match to the torch.


We said the same thing...That she was just smarter than he was..building her fire higher before lighting it...I just got a huge kick out of his obvious dissapointment...which probably didn't have anything to do with just losing the challenge...

Hubby and I both said at the beginning that it would be interesting if it came down to one person and they had to be in total isolation..true survivor situation...I would totally be freaking out...even though she's not totally alone...she does have a camera man!


And I agree with GD...I mentioned to Bailey that after the merge..Ian and Tom were sitting ducks! Unless they stick together...

[Motorboat Cruiser]

I can't say that I'm upset or surprised that Coby got the ax. He was pretty stupid in how he handled himself.

What I am surprised at is how easy it was to lure everyone off of their perch in the immunity challenge. Folks, that was a lame display of perseverance if I ever saw one. These people need to wake up and realize that it would be a really good idea to vote Tom off as soon as possible. The guy is just way too much of a threat.

I'd love to see Steph take the whole thing.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Ooooh, so glad that whiny little bitch is gone. Geeeez, he totally comitted suicide. I mean, I'm sure some of it was editing, but did he seriously think the strategy of, "It's a pivotal turning point in the game, so I'm going to complain, get pissy when I don't get my way, and blab about tribe drama to Jeff," was going to get him anywhere?

I was surprised at Steph jumping in. Everyone else, they're idiots, and they're soft from never losing immunity. Steph? I mean, I guess she could tell that there was no way she was going and that she was way too valuable as an extra vote, but man, I would never be able to live with myself if I gave up immunity and got voted off.

[Baileykat]

I, too, was amazed that these people jumped it so quickly! Didn't they just have a big meal cooked for them, with Rum, the night before? It's not like this tribe is starving totally...They've won nearly every reward challenge and lots of fish to eat....I know it's not cookies and pizza...but come on!!! There's a MUCH stronger alliance going on than we see...They all voted for Coby..allthough he totally deserved it!

I can't blame Steph too much...she hasn't had a decent meal in weeks...but she didnt' play it smart! It wasn't a done deal!

And what was with Janu's face after the vote...did she really not know that Coby was going out?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Of course she didn't, she was asleep the whole freaking time! And she voted for Steph. It's like she slept all day, figured, "We're voting for the new chick right?" and didn't talk to anyone. She's so worthless.

[mousepod]

Yeah, Coby slit his own throat. Grabbing Steph in plain sight of the other women, having a "moment" with Tom over the bait... He was deluded til the end. During the tribal council, he said that the game was a popularity contest, yet in his "final words" he was saying "you voted me off because I was a strong competitor." You got it right the first time, buddy.

As far as Steph jumping, I think it was a clever move. She knows that Tom is the strongest player and I don't believe she was ready to move that target onto her back.
Go Steph!

[Moonliner]

It looks to me like they are all afraid of Tom.

Option #1: I can stand here for hours getting tempted by food until my legs quiver and I pass out from exhaustion while Tom smiles at me and wins immunity

or

Option #2: I can dive off this stupid pole have some yummy food while Tom smiles at me and wins immunity.

From that point of view why not jump in? Just don't be first.

As for Steph: First off I think she was REALLY hungry. No fish, no clam. Ya gotta eat. Also I think she is better off being less of a threat. If she did beat Tom would that really be a good move for her? I don't think so.

As for Tom: I still think everyone better vote him off the first chance they get or else.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I agree about Tom winning the challenge no matter what. Steph stayed up there long enough to impress (unlike Coby) but knew she'd never beat Tom and jumped off for food. I probably would have done the same....although I was kind of surprised, seeing how competitive Steph is. Good point, mousepod, about moving the target to her back....you really don't want to be seen as stronger than Tom at this point (not that that's possible!).

[Moonliner]

As for Steph: First off I think she was REALLY hungry. No fish, no clam. Ya gotta eat.

Doh!

Well don't I feel the fool. I came in late last night (after the Nationals opener, go nats..) and did a quick run through of last nights survivor skipping along to get to the immunity challange and vote. I totally missed the whole feast thing. So I guess Steph was not all THAT hungry.

Stratigically I still think it was a good move. If she had out lasted Tom, which was possible becuase the guy had to be dealing with a hangover (unless the challenge was well after the drinking party...) it would have sent a dangerous message to the rest of the tribe.

[Matterhorn Fan]

They were only out there for an hour or so before it was dark. Tom should have been over any hangover by then (he was the first one up in the morning, after all, so it couldn't have been that bad).

[scaeagles]

I am looking forward to the episode tonight. It looks from the previews like they will finally penalize the first person who bails on the immunity challange. Or was it the reward challange?

Though the wife told me Coby was voted off, I haven't watched the episode from last week....it was on in the hospital room, but I was still pretty out of it and on narcotics, so I'm not recalling much about it.

[Baileykat]

I'm looking forward to it as well...I really like this season with all the twists and kinda unexpected things they are doing...Guess we'll see tonight if Tom and Ian are true to their word and protect Steph...they'd be smart to do it!

[Ghoulish Delight]

I'm looking forward to it as well...I really like this season with all the twists and kinda unexpected things they are doing...Guess we'll see tonight if Tom and Ian are true to their word and protect Steph...they'd be smart to do it!Totally, the 3 of them have to stick together. They are all huge targets and the only way to protect themselves is to stay surrounded by other targets.

[Baileykat]

Freakin best Survivor Tribal Council EVER!!!!

And that's about all I have to say about that!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mousey Girl]

I was laughing at the looks on the faces tonight! I was thrilled that Janu quit. It totally messed up the plans of the guys. I think she knew exactly what she was doing, she just wasn't aware that she could do it.

[Claire]

Okay. We want Stephenie to stay in it. We're big fans....and my husband thinks she's the hottest thing ever.

But not like this. Jeff totally twisted and manipulated Janu's words at TC. We were SO pissed. I thought it was a shady TC and we were NOT happy at all. Even my husband who wants to continue to check out Stephenie's abs for the next month wasn't cool with the way it went down. Total crap. :mad:

[scaeagles]

yeah, i thought Jeff manipulated the situtation, most certainly. Not cool.

I liked Steph in the underdog role, but it looks like she's making a power play next week. Although I can't blame her - she has good senses and knew she was on the block, so it's not like she's betraying Tom or Ian.

I did find it funny that she was again on the losing team in a challange.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Totally agree. And after all the sh!t Jeff's given in the past to people who quit, to badger Janu into quitting? WTF? He must totally want to score with Steph.

Tom and Ian are idiots for going with Gregg and Jenn. I mean, DUH! If the two of them just spent their efforts convincing you to vote for Steph because she's so well liked, what the hell chance do you think YOU have with them? Steph's a huge target. If she's gone they're the targets.

[Matterhorn Fan]

Can someone post what happened at tribal council? I listened to most of the show on the radio, but went into a friend's house before TC, so I missed it. I heard up to the point when Janu came back saying that her night alone was great.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Basically, Janu said she would deserve to go home. Steph, knowing she was on the chopping block, but on an Emmy winning performance with tears about how much it would suck for someone who WANTS to go home to stay just because they weren't a threat, whereas she actually deserves to stay. Tom said, "yeah, well, that's the game." Then Jeff kept grilling Janu and asked, "Would you be willing to turn around and ask the tribe to vote you off?" She said yes, and she did. Then Jeff said, "Okay, what's the difference between that and just quitting?" She thought about it and said, "Yeah, you're right, I quit," and walked off. So basically Jeff talked Janu into quitting, saving Steph's hide.

[Claire]

I agree with that rundown, but it was done in such a shady, manipulative way that I was stunned. Janu didn't come into TC with a defeated attitude at all. She came in (in our opinion) with more energy and more of a will to stay in the game than before.
We fumed again over coffee this morning. I've never seen my husband so hung up on someone physically before this Stephenie person (:p ), and even he thought she shouldn't still be in it after that TC. He was like, "Is there someone we can write to? I don't want to ever see that happen again. That SUCKED!" And this is a guy who doesn't get worked up over anything.

[Sheila]

I thought Ian was the one who initially was trying to get Janu to quit and was the one who put that option out there at TC? Remember, he and Steph were initial alliance partners and I bet he was thrilled to find a way to keep her in the game without ticking off Gregg & Jenn.

I don't think Jeff would've even started that without Ian's prompting, nor the fact that Janu has been begging to be let out of the game for a while now.

[scaeagles]

interesting little article here -

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050422/ap_on_en_tv/people_janu_tornell

Apparently lots more happened at tribal concil than we saw - a whole bunch more!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Hmm, that's an interesting wrinkle. Why the heck did they edit it the way they did then?

Yes, Sheila, Ian mentioned it first, but, as it was edited, Jeff pushed too hard. But if what Janu is claiming now is true, then I guess that's cool. Just seems an odd editing choice.

[jdramj]

Janu didn't come into TC with a defeated attitude at all. She came in (in our opinion) with more energy and more of a will to stay in the game than before.
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Actually I think it was quite the opposite in respect to her "will to stay". I think she felt like she did something for herself (as in fire and the night alone). I believe she mentioned at TC that she was satisfied with herself and the experience and felt as though she could leave. I still believe she didn't want to stay there any longer, based on when she came back from the desserted island. Everyone was shocked to hear her say "Great!" on how she did alone. She said right after that, she didn't belong there anymore.

You're right though, she did seem to have a different attitude, not beaten down and tired...but refreshed.

[Claire]

Thanks for the link, Leo! I printed it out for my husband and my daughter is reading the article right now. I appreciate it! :)

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I loved the part where she came back from being alone and no one hugs her. They all stand there with bored "i want to be anywhere but here" looks on their faces while she told them what happened. I don't care how it happened, I'm just glad she's not there anymore. One unliked person can make a ruin a whole gathering.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

I think the game is going to start getting pretty interesting from this point on. I'm liking this season much more than the last on, I must say. There have been a few things that I didn't like but I'm glad to see them mixing things up a little, being a little more creative with the challenges, and keeping everyone on their toes a little more.

Early on, the fact that there were a lot of WWII artifacts around caught my interest. I thought they might incorporate that theme somehow into the challenges. I don't know exactly how they would do it, mind you, it just seemed like something you could be creative with.

Anyway, glad to see Janu gone as well. For some reason though, I thought it was going to be Greg.

[scaeagles]

While there was never any discussion about Steph's ouster, I thought lawst night was one of the best plays I've seen in a while on Survivor. Gregg was shocked - as was Jen (whom I still can't stand) - and I give him props for his reaction - none of the whiner "they lied to me" crap we get so often. He got played when he was trying to make a play, and he realized it, and took it like a man.

Katie is irritating me right now - she doesn't seem to get it. Other people are allowed to make plays, just like she was trying to. She seems genuinely upset at Ian, even though she was ready to betray him.

At this point I think Jen is next to go unless she wins immunity or pulls of some major strategizing, both of which I doubt. After that....I am unsure of who Ian is more loyal to - Tom or Katie. I hope it's Tom. I don't think Caryn will bite the hand that feeds her. My predictions -

Jen off next, followed by Katie, then in the final three Caryn goes as Tom and Iam stick with each other and a truly deserving player will win - either one of them.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Awesome, awesome move. Absolute perfect show of strength by them. Not just one of the best strategic moves in a while, one of the best ever. Ever since the stone first use of the stones method of tie-breaking, no one, and I mean no one, has risked a tie, and they knew it.

Honestly, Katie's an idiot for even considering aligning with Jenn and Gregg. I mean, duh, you think either of them will bring you to the final 2? Geez, did you SEE them at that reward challenge?

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Yep, great show last night. Not much to add than what has been posted above. Greg chose very poorly on the rewards challenge by splitting up the groups like that. Had he brought Tom or Ian, things might have turned out quite differently.

I do think Tom still has to be very careful. I think they all realize that none of them have much of a chance against him in the final two.

Looks like there is going to be a bunch of drama next week.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Tom can reasonably expect a good chance at winning immunity in the final 3.

Those elimination challenges are always political suicide for someone. Always. Katie was particularly moronic. She didn't have to take out Ian, she could have hit Jenn. And then to have Gregg completely break his word because Jenn cracked the whip, only to cheerfully enter into a 3-person alliance with those two. Could she be any stupider?

[mousepod]

Here's an interesting question/observation (I can't take credit for this one - Heather brought it up last night while we were watching the show) -

Does Ian have a crush on Katie? Do you think it will affect his play in the next two shows?

When they were discussing the upcoming rewards challenge, he said "If I win, I'm gonna take my girl. And if she wins, she's gonna take me." My girl? Odd. When she zinged him in the challenge, he seemed genuinely upset. Then, when the three reward challenge losers went back to camp, he was the one that suggested that Katie had "gone to the other side," as if there was a real betrayal going down. It implied that he knew that Gregg was up to something. The week before, however, he had taken Gregg's manipulation to break up his original pact with Steph without even a peep or a(n obvious) second thought. And what was going on in the teaser for next week? It looked like Ian was capitulating to some weird emotional display from Katie.

This show is getting goooood.

[Moonliner]

So we have five left:

Tom, Ian, Caryn, Katie, and Jen.

I have to think that Tom and Ian are starting to look at each other as a problem. That would lead to:

Ian and Katie

Tom and Caryn.

Katie and Caryn would just be lucky to make it to the final two and Ian and Tom would be happy to go up agnist those two.

Which brings us to Jen. Poor little Jen. Poor left out to dry, grasping at straws Jen. How about this: Jen goes to Tom and says, I'll vote with you and Caryn to get rid of Ian and Katie. In return you vote me over Caryn for the final two.

The same concept would work even better if she could do it with Caryn. She agrees to vote of Ian/Katie and then she and Caryn vote off Tom. Of course that's a problem because Caryn/Jen have about a zero chance of keeping Tom from immunity.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Caryn seems to be Tom's little puppy dog, and now that Ian and Tom have pulled a major power play to save her butt, I don't think she'll have the cajones (or smarts) to turn on them.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

I'm not sure exactly how Ian pulled that off. That was not the brightest move to take Tom on that rewards challenge. I still can't believe he didn't get voted off.

Prediction: Jen is toast first, then Katie, and Tom will probably receive more votes than Ian, although not a given. He did seem a little scary prior to winning immunity. Strange seeing him start to freak out about getting voted off.

[Stan4dSteph]

Caryn seems to be Tom's little puppy dog, and now that Ian and Tom have pulled a major power play to save her butt, I don't think she'll have the cajones (or smarts) to turn on them.Well, she kind of did but it didn't work out for her. I loved the drama at tribal though.

As far as the Tom "strong arming" well, when one tactic isn't working you switch it up. Tom's a smart guy.

[Stan4dSteph]

Duplicate post. What's with the slowness?

[Ghoulish Delight]

Ian better brush up on those interrogation skills if he wants to win this. I thought for sure he was backpeddling himself right onto the jury.

But hah! Even Jenn voted for Caryn.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Ian should have thrown the reward challenge and let Tom win. Nobody that wins the car ever wins the game. :evil:

[Sheila]

But hah! Even Jenn voted for Caryn.

That's what drives me crazy sometimes about the editing of this show. They show all this *drama* where one faction is pitted against another (as though nobody knew what the other side is doing), then it turns into a unanimous vote.

How did Jenn know to vote Caryn? I give up. ;)

[scaeagles]

I was yelling at my TV when Ian took Tom with him on the reward challange. I figured he had blown it for sure.

Interestingly, though, I now think he's in the driver's seat. Here's how I see it - Ian is Tom's closest ally, and Ian is Katie's closest. Here's how I see it playing out -

Jen gets voted off next.

In the final three, if Tom wins immunity, he takes Ian. Not necessarily out of loyalty, but i don't see him taking Katie because too many people on the jury might pick Katie over him as she is the underdog.

If Katie wins immunity, she takes Ian because of their bond.

If Ian wins immunity, I don't know who he takes, but at this point in time I'm pretty sure he gets to the final two.

I was surprised that Jen voted for Karen. Either she and Katie had a chat that wasn't shown, or she saw the handwriting on the wall that the women's alliance wasn't happening.

[Claire]

I was at a jewelry show/wine tasting last night, so I missed all but the immunity challenge and tribal council......I SO wanted to see the drama between Katie (um, backstabber?) and Ian play out. And since my husband and kids were at Courtney's softball game, we all missed the first 40 minutes of the show. :( And didn't think to tape it.

Caryn always sounds insane when she speaks. How is she a lawyer??

And Katie was trying to make eye contact with Gregg during TC while pleading her case that Ian railroaded her into voting for Gregg.....very nice work, Katie. She's such the drama queen. Ick. It was a bit true......but dang, Katie had switched sides and Ian knew it. She voted Gregg to save her own ass.

I guess my favorite out of the final four would have to be Ian. He's a cutie pie and has played it well, even though he sounded a bit cocky early on in the game.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I guess my favorite out of the final four would have to be Ian.I love The Ian Show. Definitely an entertaining way to spend an hour. ;)

I'll be very sad if he doesn't make it to the final two. If Katie or Jenn wins I'll be so freakin' pissed...

[Moonliner]

So now we are down to:

Tom, Ian, Jen and Katie.

I'd have to think that if Katie did not turn on Ian this week then she is going to stay with him all the way. Which makes IanIe the new power couple and leaves Jen as the wild card. So can Tom woo Jen? If tom wins immunity, which I expect he will, then IanIe will galdy join him to vote off Jen. If Tom does not get immumity, then IanIe will lobby Jen to vote off Tom and Tom will lobby Jen to vote of Katie, unless Ian is not as wedded (so to speak) to Katie as she to him in which case Tom with immunity will still get Jen sent packing but Tom without immunity will have Ian vote Kaite along with Tom and Jen waisting a vote on Tom but if Tom can woo Jen and keep Ian then Katie goes home unless Ian is selected by a still bitter Katie and Jen.

Which I think makes it perfectly clear that I don't have a freaking clue where this is going to end up. :) Although I would like to point out that I picked Ian for the final two even before the first show aired and as anyone that has followed my survivor posts knows, I'm always wrong.

[Claire]

I love The Ian Show. Definitely an entertaining way to spend an hour. ;)

I'll be very sad if he doesn't make it to the final two. If Katie or Jenn wins I'll be so freakin' pissed...

If Katie wins, I'm pretty sure my husband will smash the TV into pieces......he hates her SO much. The sight of her just pisses him off. :evil:

[Baileykat]

If Katie wins, I'm pretty sure my husband will smash the TV into pieces......he hates her SO much. The sight of her just pisses him off. :evil:


Right there with you! If she wins, it'll be the worst since Vesepia won! Ugh!

I really wanted to just beat Ian last night! What was he thinking not taking Katie? If he had taken her with him, it was in the bag for him! Come on! Women scorned and all that?!

JUST A REMINDER THAT THE FINAL IS SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vegas odds were 2:1 for Tom, 3:1 for Ian!


And I'll be slightly ticked off if Ian gets immunity and takes Katie to the final two over Tom!

[Mousey Girl]

Finale in 15 mins!!

[Ghoulish Delight]

Aaaargh!! We had NO idea the finale was tonight. We tuned in just before the first tribal vote, so we missed all the crap that led up to that. :( Someone will have to fill us in when it's over.

[Moonliner]

Ok:





Here







we




go....



Ian, my man. You have got to be the biggest dofus to ever play the show. First you give up your shot at the final two to woo the fair maiden and then you vote AGNIST her. Doh! He should have just leveled with Tom and kept Katie on his side. Blasted chicken.

Tom, oh hell I always said get rid of him ASAP or just sign over the check. So let it be spoken, so let it be done. Have fun with the $$.

Katie, dear sweet kaite, goodbye. Second place means we should never have to hear from you again. Woo Hoo.

[Moonliner]

Oh and AFTER you know the ending...

You can:

Bid on this.

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[Stan4dSteph]

Hell yeah! He's a MAN, baby.

[Baileykat]

Whooo hoooo~ Tom is the man!!!!!

It's nice to see someone win who actually played the game!

[scaeagles]

Tom was well deserving. I do wish Ian had made some better strategic decisions. I have no problem with Tom confronting Ian and being a bit put off, but I never understood why Katie was put off, when she had flipped on him. Oh well - at least he got that really nice convertable Corvette.

Was confused over Coby's accusations of Tom. I don't recall Tom directly lying to anyone.

I don't despise Katie as so many seem to. She sure did look a little different last night. Was she really that mean and lazy? Jenu and Jenn - lazy. Coby? Mean. I thought it funny when he said he was voted out because he was a threat, when it was clear to me he was voted out because he was being a jerk.

Good season. Here's hoping "Survivor Guatemala - the Mayan adventure" (or whatever it's called) is as good.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Yeah, I thought this was a pretty good season. Definitely better than the last one. The Mayan thing looks interesting too.

Lots of drama at the end but I thought Tom handled the grilling very well. Katie put me off when she refused to answer Janu's question. I don't think that looked good to anyone. But really, she had no chance against Tom, which is why he probably agreed to Ian's offer (which was pretty stupid in and of itself. Ian probably had Tom beat on the final endurance challange) Oh well, stupidity doesn't win Survivor.

[scaeagles]

Well, it depends on what was most important to Ian. I thought it stupid at first, but he determined his reputation and the friendships he had with Tom and Katie were more important than money. He felt he'd wronged them, and wanted to make a gesture.

Now, Survivor is all about winning a million. But the people and relationships are real, and I think he was honestly grieved at some things he had said/done (which were stupid - not taking Katie on the reward challange, plotting with Jen and Katie to oust Tom from the final four, saying it would have been a tough decision). So I actually respect him for putting those things above the money.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Honestly, with Ian's complete inability to stand up to the most simple of questioning, there's no way he would have been able to handle answering to the jury. He would have appologized, back-peddeled, and folded his way straight to second place.

I guess it's cool that Tom won. But I don't know how much he played the game. I mean, with immunity in hand so much, he was almost never threatened and he rarely needed to scramble or change his plans, which is the hardest part of the game. Plus, towards the end, he was turning into a serious bully which kinda put me off of him.

[scaeagles]

Completely agreed. He does not have the ability to think on his feet when confronted.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I'm glad Tom won - definitely the one survivor with the least faults. For God's sake he took out a shark!

Ian was definitely a let down. Totally could not handle it when people faced him. Exact opposite of Tom in that respect.

Great season. I'm still an addict, still can't wait for the next one! :)

[Moonliner]

So wadda ya think?

Will Ian end up in Orlando, San Diego or San Antonio?

[Matterhorn Fan]

I'm glad Tom won - definitely the one survivor with the least faults. For God's sake he took out a shark!
Grrr.

He could at least have taken out that shark when they were all starving. He did it just to prove he could. Idiot.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Grrr.

He could at least have taken out that shark when they were all starving. He did it just to prove he could. Idiot.They were ALL trying to get the shark, he was just the one with the brains to get a factory made blade instead of a sharpened stick.

[Matterhorn Fan]

In that case,

Grrr. They're all idiots.