Castle Walkthrough Reopening

[Isaac]

A few months ago Al Lutz mentioned on MiceAge that the folks in TDA were looking into reopening the Sleeping Beauty Castle walkthrough later this year.

Recently a construction wall went up around the exit to the walkthrough.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/zapppop/walkthru.jpg

Though imagineers have been seen going in & out, they haven't said what they were doing. However, the construction workers (when asked by park guests) claim they are restoring the Sleeping Beauty walkthrough & hope to complete construction by the end of the year.

This would tie in with the upcoming 2 disc platinum edition (http://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Beauty-Two-Disc-Platinum-Costa/dp/B0013ND30M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1212964106&sr=1-1) & blu-ray (http://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Beauty-Two-Disc-Platinum-Blu-ray/dp/B0013ND30W/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1212963999&sr=8-3) release of Sleeping Beauty in October,
as well as the film's upcoming 50th anniversary in January '09.

Cross your fingers everybody!

[wolfy999]

Fingers crossed!

[lashbear]

I loved the walkthrough - so claustrophobic ! I wonder if they will make it accessable to diffrently-abled persons ?

[CoasterMatt]

I hope they restore the magic glowing dust bunny.

[~MS~]

There is a LOT of 'recovery' work to be done, I've seen photos of the damage to the interior glass in the walk thru that would break your heart. The destruction is just heart wrenching :( but I'd love it if they are in fact going in and refurbing it and while I doubt it would be HCA accessible I don't think Disney is required to make it so since they aren't changing the structure just the dioramas.

[MouseWife]

~MS~ Why was it damaged?

[CoasterMatt]

They tore the stuff out for the "Greatest Hits" diorama series at the Emporium

[MouseWife]

*aghast* Seriously? So, they must have thought they'd never put it back together? Do you think they used the 9/11 worries to save money on their diorama?

And to break the glass???? That was unnecessary.

Thanks for the info, Matt. :snap:

[cirquelover]

I hope it does come back. I remember it being very narrow but very cool. That is sad about the windows though. I hope they can be restored.

[RStar]

~MS~ Why was it damaged?

Al reports that a lot of the damage was done in order to install the firework stuff and lighting for the 50th show.

[MouseWife]

Between the fireworks and the emporium, they really ransacked the walk thru. :(

[~MS~]

Pretty much, the photos I saw were zappop level worthy of not public access and the windows were just smashed like a vandal had been in there! I know they were actual pictures not 'mock up' or faked ones .... and while part of it was for all the reasons stated, some of it was just construction people 'having 'fun' ...color me not impressed.

[MouseWife]

~MS~ that is shameful. Can you imagine if they'd had some of us there? Some of us whose hearts are a part of that place? Shame on them.

Or...

Pooh Pooh on them? :p

[RStar]

Well, walls can be patched, and glass replaced. Yes it will bring the price up, and hopefully the can do something about the vandalism. At any rate, it will be nice to have yet another attraction opened. The more they open and give people things to do, the smaller the lines will be.

[MouseWife]

You are right, RStar. Thanks for that positive spin. :snap:

[Moonliner]

I hope they put in a loop.

[cirquelover]

I hope you're the first to try the new loop too;)

[figment1986]

I hope they put in a loop.

maybe it will be better than the new loop space mountain got in Florida... it gets boring after a while,








the same music over and over again.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I definitely wish they would re-open the walk-through. I never got to see it the first time. Make it pretty for me!

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Fingers crossed!

[BarTopDancer]

Oh I hope so!

[JWBear]

Knowing Disney, the'll put Pixar characters in all the scenes.... :rolleyes:

[Snowflake]

I hope that this is true. I'd very much like to see the walkthrough as I cannot recall it at all from when I was a kid. Thanks for keeping up posted Zap!

[belleh5]

Thanks for the update Zap!!

Does anyone have any pictures of the walk-through??

[Gn2Dlnd]

From the L.A. Times (http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/sleeping-beauty-cast-2114/).

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Ye-yeah! I'm more excited about this than Toy Story Mania, which I have yet to visit. We need to go.....Back to the Park!

[BarTopDancer]

Yea!!!!!!!

[innerSpaceman]

Yeah, isn't that funny? I'm a thousand times more excited about this than Toy Story Midway.


And I have such fond MouseAdventure memories of it closing "forever" practically as we exited, in the middle of the game.



Yay, Castle Meet coming soon!!!!

[Gemini Cricket]

I'm sorta excited. If they're just going to put back the same Barbie dolls with the foam hair and the one riveting diorama with the moving cotton ball with the Christmas tree lightbulb inside it, I'll visit the walkthrough as much as I did before... which was hardly. I'd like to see them plus it.
:)

[RStar]

I'd like to see them plus it.
:)

You mean like the Nemo subs by projecting scenes from the movie on scrims behind glass? How about a 3D Holographic Diaroma? ;)

[Gemini Cricket]

You mean like the Nemo subs by projecting scenes from the movie on scrims behind glass? How about a 3D Holographic Diaroma? ;)
I would rather see a digital projection of the glow going up the stairs.
But the two are similar in that it will be nice to see a long missing attraction back, but visiting it repeatedly is not a high priority.

Here is a video of the SB Walkthrough (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5n0g1CK9M&feature=related)
Pay close attention at 6:57 or so.

Here is a clip from the film containing the glow scene. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK8_bgL0FTQ) It's right at the top of the clip.
:D

[innerSpaceman]

I'll likely visit it more than I go on Nemo. There won't be a line, much less one that moves slower than molasses thru water. And I will accept cheap film effects in the A-Ticket diorama, whereas I despise them in the purportedly E-Ticket Submarine Voyage.

[Snowflake]

I would rather see a digital projection of the glow going up the stairs.
But the two are similar in that it will be nice to see a long missing attraction back, but visiting it repeatedly is not a high priority.

Here is a video of the SB Walkthrough (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5n0g1CK9M&feature=related)
Pay close attention at 6:57 or so.

Here is a clip from the film containing the glow scene. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK8_bgL0FTQ) It's right at the top of the clip.
:D

Wow, I have no recollection of seeing this at all.

[wolfy999]

Me either.....I know I took Wolfette through this before it closed, but don't remember any of it. Guess I wasn't too impressed at the time.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

I have actually never been through it. It closed before I moved here.

[Isaac]

One rumor going around is they may use film projectors for some animated effects.
So the glowing orb might be a projection, like the ones in the Alice dark ride.

[RStar]

One rumor going around is they may use film projectors for some animated effects.
So the glowing orb might be a projection, like the ones in the Alice dark ride.

I just like the words

glowing orb

[NickO'Time]

We loved it in original form, but looking forward too the new design.
It would be cool too see the glowing effect happen.

[CoasterMatt]

I love the lit up dust bunny.

[lashbear]

I looked at the little cloud waving back and forward and wondered whether Monkey was going to ride in on it.....

Keep it as it was !! :D

[Not Afraid]

Soooo, anyone want to have a meet on Sunday July 6th?

[JWBear]

I would rather see a digital projection of the glow going up the stairs.
But the two are similar in that it will be nice to see a long missing attraction back, but visiting it repeatedly is not a high priority.

Here is a video of the SB Walkthrough (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5n0g1CK9M&feature=related)
Pay close attention at 6:57 or so.

Here is a clip from the film containing the glow scene. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK8_bgL0FTQ) It's right at the top of the clip.
:D

That was cool. Brought back many memories. I had forgotten about the Nazi saluting fairies!

[innerSpaceman]

Soooo, anyone want to have a meet on Sunday July 6th?
Yes, and let's also have one when the Walk-thru opens. :p

[Gemini Cricket]

Watching the walkthrough video made me want to watch Sleeping Beauty again. It's a beautiful film. But, man, the "Skumps" scene drags...

[innerSpaceman]

I think that's the whole idea of reviving the walk-thru ... promoting the upcoming home video re-release of Sleeping Beauty.


I'm going to buy it on Blu-Ray, even though I as yet don't have any way to play it. But the flaming CM at the DTD monorail station convinced me it's going to be fabulous. :)

[Gemini Cricket]

And while I'm thinking about it...
Maleficent is a mean, vindictive, sadistic mega-evil bitch.
She curses an infant for pretty much no reason, she conks out grown up Aurora, she imprisons Phillip, then after she wins she taunts him in prison by saying 'you're going to be here until you're too old to be with Aurora' and then she turns into a dragon and tries to murder Phillip. And she basically gains nothing by doing all this. Pure evil. Talk about someone too dangerous to keep alive in some prison somewhere.
:D

And another thing, most of the characters in this film do not cast shadows. I found it odd that they missed that. Then again, I haven't really looked at the other films before it for that...

[DreadPirateRoberts]

She curses an infant for pretty much no reason

Well, in her defense, she was snubbed. She just took it a little harder than most.

[Not Afraid]

Yes, and let's also have one when the Walk-thru opens. :p

OK. FINE. Then too.

[Snowflake]

And while I'm thinking about it...
Maleficent is a mean, vindictive, sadistic mega-evil bitch.
She curses an infant for pretty much no reason, she conks out grown up Aurora, she imprisons Phillip, then after she wins she taunts him in prison by saying 'you're going to be here until you're too old to be with Aurora' and then she turns into a dragon and tries to murder Phillip. And she basically gains nothing by doing all this. Pure evil. Talk about someone too dangerous to keep alive in some prison somewhere.
:D


But, Cricket, the best part is this, she looks good doing it!

[Gemini Cricket]

Well, in her defense, she was snubbed. She just took it a little harder than most.
Yes, you're right. But imagine what would have happened had she had been invited and gotten drunk with that minstrel at the party. Her waving that freakin' staff around in a drunken stupor. And I'm thinking, she'd be an angry drunk.
:D
But, Cricket, the best part is this, she looks good doing it!
She really does.
:D

[Snowflake]

OK. FINE. Then too.

Well, maybe we can tie it in when this (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=7541&highlight=Vanity+Fair) is going on in October? If so, then I can do two swankings in a weekend! :D

[Gemini Cricket]

Okay, in order to make up for the straightness I will be partaking in tonight (Dodgers game), I'm watching Cinderella right now. Eleanor Audley, what a talented actress she was.

And, btw, I have a theory that Lucifer died. No cat could survive a fall like that. That's why there was no follow up shot to show that he was fine. I think he wasn't. (And screw bringing him back for the sequels... bleh.)

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

Soooo, anyone want to have a meet on Sunday July 6th?

I should be up for that - should be a nice quite, uneventful day at the park.

...

[Isaac]

I have a theory that Lucifer died. No cat could survive a fall like that. That's why there was no follow up shot to show that he was fine.

He did die. That was his death. Disney put him in the sequels so the original film would be more 'family friendly'. Eesh. Next thing you know they'll do a voiceover of Bambi's father saying " Your mother is injured " :rolleyes:

So yeah, Lucifer died. Disney pulled a George Lucas*



*= in Star Wars, Anakin Skywalker was murdered by Darth Vader. In the sequel that followed (almost 4 years later) Darth Vader claims that HE his Anakin Skywalker, which was not true. Star Wars was written as one single story with no sequel.

[innerSpaceman]

I still Heart zapppop

[Gemini Cricket]

Your mother is injured " :rolleyes:
lol! :D


Now I'm watching Pinocchio. Beautiful art. Jiminy Cricket has some really funny sayings in this. Some are really dated sayings that are just damn funny.

"What a build up!"

"As I live and breathe, a fairy. Mmm mmm!"

"What they can't do these days..."

"That's just the trouble with the world today..."

"No tricks now..."

"Say, that's pretty swell. Thanks, gee!"

"Not bad, says I."

"All right, son. Take it easy."

"What does an actor want with a conscience anyway?"

Jiminy and Figaro are two of the best Disney characters ever.

[Snowflake]

Okay, in order to make up for the straightness I will be partaking in tonight (Dodgers game), I'm watching Cinderella right now. Eleanor Audley, what a talented actress she was.

and
Now I'm watching Pinocchio.

Just for today, I hate you GC. ;)
I'm stuck at work without so much as a movie in sight.

[Gemini Cricket]

Just for today, I hate you GC. ;)
I'm stuck at work without so much as a movie in sight.
Actually, I wish I was you and had a job.
;)
:D

[Cadaverous Pallor]

"What a build up!"

"As I live and breathe, a fairy. Mmm mmm!"

"What they can't do these days..."

"That's just the trouble with the world today..."

"No tricks now..."

"Say, that's pretty swell. Thanks, gee!"

"Not bad, says I."

"All right, son. Take it easy."

"What does an actor want with a conscience anyway?"I'm reading all of these with GC's patented 1940's movie voice in my head. Heehee! You must add those lines to your repetoire...

[belleh5]

So yeah, Lucifer died. Disney pulled a George Lucas*


NO!!! Don't cat's always land on their feet?

Are you sure????

[€uroMeinke]

Villains never die - Snow White and Maleficent continue to roam the park and direct to DVD features

[Tref]

So anyway, I have heard that the castle walkthrough is re-opening. Is that true?

But man, why do we have to walk through it? Is it just because they call it walkthrough? Well, we shall see about that.

[Disneyphile]

DISNEYLAND PREPARES TO OPEN SLEEPING BEAUTY CASTLE WALKTHROUGH
July 17, 2008 - Anaheim, CA - The interior of Sleeping Beauty Castle at
Disneyland will open in time for the December holiday season, offering guests a
“reawakened” version of its classic walkthrough presentation kissed with
vibrant scenes of Aurora, her charming prince, the evil Maleficent and other
characters from the beloved fairy tale film.

“It is fitting that we are announcing the return of a classic on the 53rd
anniversary of Disneyland,” said Tony Baxter, Senior Vice President of Creative
Development for Walt Disney Imagineering, who unveiled a model of the castle on
July 17, the birthday of Disneyland park.

Next year marks the 50th anniversary of Walt Disney’s “Sleeping Beauty,” and
the excitement generated by the anniversary of the motion picture spurred
interest in the return of the Disneyland attraction.

Also celebrating the milestone 50th Anniversary of “Sleeping Beauty” is Walt
Disney Studios Home Entertainment, which will release a two-disc Platinum
Blu-ray™ Hi-Def disc, making “Sleeping Beauty” the first Walt Disney animated
classic title to be released in high definition, as well as on two-disc
Platinum DVD. A bonus feature on the new release will be “The Original Sleeping
Beauty Walk-Through Attraction With Walt Disney Imagineering,” an immersive
experience recreating the original castle walkthrough.

On April 29, 1957, nearly two years before the premiere of Walt Disney’s
animated feature “Sleeping Beauty,” the Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough
opened with an in-park ceremony featuring Walt Disney and actress Shirley
Temple who, some 20 years earlier, had presented Disney with his special
Academy Award – one Oscar and seven little ones – for “Snow White and the Seven
Dwarfs.”

The crafting of the 1957 walkthrough show fell to Walt Disney Imagineer Ken
Anderson and animation art director and color stylist Eyvind Earle, credited
with giving the motion picture “Sleeping Beauty” the distinctive and colorful
look of storybook illustrations in medieval style. An entirely new look
appeared in 1977 when the attraction’s redesign featured miniature dioramas,
including moving figurines similar to the window displays in the shops on Main
Street, U.S.A.

When the attraction is unveiled later this year, the “show” will differ from
the dioramas of the 1980s and ‘90s, returning to the unique style of the
original 1957 show and motion picture. Enhanced with new scenes and special
effects magic, the re-Imagineered attraction will employ technology not
available in the 1950s to represent scenes from the story of Sleeping Beauty,
including the magic of good fairies Flora, Fauna and Merryweather, and the more
sinister spells of the evil Maleficent.

For the first time, guests who are unable to climb stairs or navigate the
passageways of the Castle will be able to experience the walkthrough
“virtually” in a special room on the ground floor of the Castle.

[Snowflake]

DISNEYLAND PREPARES TO OPEN SLEEPING BEAUTY CASTLE WALKTHROUGHWhen the attraction is unveiled later this year, the “show” will differ from
the dioramas of the 1980s and ‘90s, returning to the unique style of the
original 1957 show and motion picture. Enhanced with new scenes and special
effects magic, the re-Imagineered attraction will employ technology not
available in the 1950s to represent scenes from the story of Sleeping Beauty,
including the magic of good fairies Flora, Fauna and Merryweather, and the more
sinister spells of the evil Maleficent.

For the first time, guests who are unable to climb stairs or navigate the
passageways of the Castle will be able to experience the walkthrough
“virtually” in a special room on the ground floor of the Castle.

That's awesome, thanks for posting DP!

[~MS~]

Very very cool and kudos for the nod to the physically imparied with another viewing room, they've proven they know how to do it well over at Nemo.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

:snap:

[lashbear]

Very very cool and kudos for the nod to the physically imparied with another viewing room, they've proven they know how to do it well over at Nemo.
Can't wait for that ! :D :snap:

[flippyshark]

Sweet. Let's hope this is the start of a trend. (People-movers, I'm looking your way.)

[RStar]

Sweet. Let's hope this is the start of a trend. (People-movers, I'm looking your way.)

Yes, but will they have a special viewing room for those who are impared by the fear of hights?

[NickO'Time]

Disneyphile's reconfirming post is the best news I have heard from Disney in a long time. I'm extremely curious what it will look like.

[Isaac]

So, the reopening date is Friday, November 7th (subject to change, of course). Al posted a DL update today, in which he said the walkthrough is supposed to reopen that weekend. So his news sorta confirmed the date I was told.

The Sleeping Beauty platinum edition DVD set will include a virtual recreation of the DL walkthrough. So the DVD might give us a preview of what changes we might see in the new version of the attraction.

[innerSpaceman]

Tony Baxter is supposed to talk about the updated Walk Thru at the Sleeping Beauty discussion panel on El Cap opening night. I'm looking forward to that!

[MouseWife]

Hey!! Cool! It isn't a blackout date either...or is it? :( Either way, I can go after. I can't wait!

[Isaac]

One of the bonus features on next weeks DVD release reveals a new scene featuring a dungeon of floating spinning wheels with blue flames:


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Earlier today, I noticed they extended the construction wall around the exit to the walkthrough and placed another wall around the entrance.

Only 6 weeks left til this classic attraction awakens from it's 7 year slumber!

:D

[alphabassettgrrl]

OOOoohhhh!!! Cool! I never got to see this the first time.

[belleh5]

One of the bonus features on next weeks DVD release reveals a new scene featuring a dungeon of floating spinning wheels with blue flames:


Wow, it comes out next week already!!:)

[RStar]

Sounds cool! I just love that stuff they closed down and did nothing with is re-opening. The more attractions open, the better!

[Isaac]

More info on the changes to the walkthrough:

Some of the new scenes were based on never-before-seen artwork by Eyvind Earle for scenes that didn't make it into the movie. When Tony Baxter was asked if there would be any scenes that feature Aurora's childhood years w/ the three goodfairies, he refused to comment.

Like the Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage, the Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough will feature a video presentation for those who cannot climb the staircases inside the castle. The former crystal shop located inside the castle is being converted into a video presentation room.

[innerSpaceman]

That reminds me, I never did the video version of finding nemo.



I can say quite certainly that I'm way more excited about the restoration of the Sleeping Beauty Walkthru than I was about the submarines.

[CoasterMatt]

I'm about excited about this as when they redid the bathrooms next to Alice in Wonderland.

[Isaac]

The restroom formerly known as 'prince'

;)

[Ruthie]

Wow, it comes out next week already!!:)

what a cutie in your avatar!

I am very excited that the walk through is opening back up. I loved the feeling of being inside an old castle. My little granddaughter is going to LOVE the whole thing. She is a true princess. ;)

I am trying to keep myself sane and not schedule a Christmas time trip just to show her the walk through. (seeing as how I am from WA and have been down 5 times in the last year, I really need to wait 'til next year :p )

. . . now maybe someone will convince them to reopen the Skyway! :D

[Morrigoon]

I'm about excited about this as when they redid the bathrooms next to Alice in Wonderland.
Hey now, they did a good job on those bathrooms!

[belleh5]

The restroom formerly known as 'prince'

;)



What is it called now? Alice & The White Rabbit? :p

[Kevy Baby]

What is it called now? Alice & The White Rabbit? :pThe name is now an unpronounceable glyph.

http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/prince_symbol.png

[CoasterMatt]

I love that the walkthrough is coming back, it's just kind of frustrating that it's 13 years and counting since Disneyland got an actual new E-ticket.

[lashbear]

I love that the walkthrough is coming back, it's just kind of frustrating that it's 13 years and counting since Disneyland got an actual new E-ticket.
Are you kidding???????? What about "Rockin' Space Mountain" ?









:p

[Isaac]

So, according to what Tony Baxter said on the new Sleeping Beauty DVD set, the walkthrouh is being restored to the original 1957 version with updated effects. So this will not be the 1977 'Barbie doll' version we last saw in 2001, nor will it be a new version.
The reopening date has been pushed back to December 12th. :rolleyes:

BTW: If you haven't already done so, purchase this new release of Sleeping Beauty. The film has been rematted to it's full 2.55:1 aspect ratio (previous releases were matted @ 2.35:1). The original audio mix (recorded in Germany) has also been restored. The film sounds & looks better than ever!

Take a look:


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[Kevy Baby]

Wow: I feel like I just watched the movie :)

[RStar]

Thanks Issac!

I did get the DVD, but I'm going to wait to see it on my new HD LCD TV and Blueray. But I did watch the castle walkthrough segment. There will be a few things missing from the original, though they were short lived anyway (Goon eyes, and add-a-snore) and something is being added that was never in the original version (though I can't remember what it is at the moment). Also, one thing that was short lived in the original will now be brought back (in spoiler in case you want to be surprised).

Malificent's shadow at the exit

The original one was so much better than the Main Street window version. I'm looking forward to it.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

So, according to what Tony Baxter said on the new Sleeping Beauty DVD set, the walkthrouh is being restored to the original 1957 version with updated effects. So this will not be the 1977 'Barbie doll' version we last saw in 2001, nor will it be a new version.
The reopening date has been pushed back to December 12th. :rolleyes:

BTW: If you haven't already done so, purchase this new release of Sleeping Beauty. The film has been rematted to it's full 2.55:1 aspect ratio (previous releases were matted @ 2.35:1). The original audio mix (recorded in Germany) has also been restored. The film sounds & looks better than ever!

I may actually buy this. Sleeping Beauty has always been, for me, one of the most beautiful of Disney's animations. Thanks for the info and the screen caps!

[innerSpaceman]

As soon as I get a second to breathe, I'll be buying both the DVD (to watch now) and the Blu-Ray (to watch someday when I have the equipment).

As for the December 12th opening, I smell meat ...er, meet!



But as for those screen caps ... well, one of the things I always judge a Sleeping Beauty restoration on is that shot with King Hubert sitting forlornly on the castle steps after Prince Phillip has told him he won't be marrying Princess Aurora. In many versions, the steps are gloriously multicolor ... and indeed this very new restoration many of us saw at the El Cap a few weeks ago had the steps in muted, but acceptably multi-color hues. Yet in the screen cap of the supposedly same restoration, the steps are all in similar hues of red. I call shenanigans!!!! What's up with that???

[alphabassettgrrl]

Dec 12- that's right around my finals. If we meet after those are done, that'd be fantastic! I never got to see the walk-through the first time, so I can't wait to see it now.

[mousepod]

As soon as I get a second to breathe, I'll be buying both the DVD (to watch now) and the Blu-Ray (to watch someday when I have the equipment).

The first edition Blu-Ray has a copy of the movie on DVD taped to the front of the case (under the slipcover). I blogged about it on pocketsymphony.com.

[Morrigoon]

As soon as I get a second to breathe, I'll be buying both the DVD (to watch now) and the Blu-Ray (to watch someday when I have the equipment).


I thought I saw a pack that had both Blu-ray and DVD in it. I could be wrong about that, but might be something to look for if you intend to get both.

[innerSpaceman]

Thanks, I hope it's still that way when I finally get around to buying it. Kinda tied up this week.

[Isaac]

As soon as I get a second to breathe, I'll be buying both the DVD (to watch now) and the Blu-Ray (to watch someday when I have the equipment).

As for the December 12th opening, I smell meat ...er, meet!



But as for those screen caps ... well, one of the things I always judge a Sleeping Beauty restoration on is that shot with King Hubert sitting forlornly on the castle steps after Prince Phillip has told him he won't be marrying Princess Aurora. In many versions, the steps are gloriously multicolor ... and indeed this very new restoration many of us saw at the El Cap a few weeks ago had the steps in muted, but acceptably multi-color hues. Yet in the screen cap of the supposedly same restoration, the steps are all in similar hues of red. I call shenanigans!!!! What's up with that???

It's possible in previous versions the colors were oversaturated & when they restored it the last time, they accidentally made all the steps similar shades of pink to make them match. I took that particular screen cap cause I knew it would get your attention ;).

Um, as for a meet, let's wait til the week after to make sure the walkthrough has officially reopened. It could be part of our annual Christmas swanking. Saturday December 20th sound doable ?

[Kevy Baby]

Kinda tied up this week.Well, if you would stop playing your kinky sex games, you might have a little more free time on your hands!

[innerSpaceman]

Ha, if only. So Isaac, why does your purposely included (thanks) screen cap show the steps in similar shades of pink when the restoration I saw at the El Cap had the multi-color steps I love (albeit much more muted than in previous versions.)


The steps is what, fairly or unfairly, I judge the restorations on. Because it's my theory that restorers simply make up the colors as they go along ... wish really, really, seriously bothers me since color styling was something vital to Disney animation and was carefully considered, designed and executed by the artists.

The same character in the same costume might have 20 different sets of color stylings, for how they would look under different lighting conditions.


Oi.


If the restorers are simply making up the colors, it is NOT a restoration.

[Kevy Baby]

Is there any way at this point to know what is correct? If any original prints still exist, their color accuracy is not reliable. Unless somebody documented what the original colors where in every sequence using some numeric valuation*, I don't know if we will ever know what the original colors where.



* In the printing industry we use the Pantone Matching System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantone) (with the unfortunate acronym of PMS), but I know that this PMS system was not in place when Sleeping Beauty was made.

[Isaac]

So Isaac, why does your purposely included (thanks) screen cap show the steps in similar shades of pink when the restoration I saw at the El Cap had the multi-color steps I love (albeit much more muted than in previous versions.)

The steps around King Hubert look pink but if you look more closely, the remaining steps are shades of blue, green and purple.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/zapppop/sb3.jpg

[Gemini Cricket]

Well, don't ask me. I flunked the color test in NA's thread.
:D

[innerSpaceman]

Yes, but it was blues and greens and purples at the El Cap screening. I am so confused.


And Kevy's right, there's no way to tell what the correct colors are unless they adhere to the archive records. For all I know the correct colors for the stairs are shades of purple and pink.

I'm simply wondering why the purportedly same restoration looked different in the theater than it does on that screen cap supposedly from the DVD release.

[RStar]

Is there any way at this point to know what is correct? If any original prints still exist, their color accuracy is not reliable. Unless somebody documented what the original colors where in every sequence using some numeric valuation*, I don't know if we will ever know what the original colors where.



* In the printing industry we use the Pantone Matching System (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantone) (with the unfortunate acronym of PMS), but I know that this PMS system was not in place when Sleeping Beauty was made.We use the PMS charts at my work as well. It's a real beeauch to try to use it for coloring skin care products, I swear. But we do ink printing on bottles, paper, and lables also.

Yes, but it was blues and greens and purples at the El Cap screening. I am so confused.


And Kevy's right, there's no way to tell what the correct colors are unless they adhere to the archive records. For all I know the correct colors for the stairs are shades of purple and pink.

I'm simply wondering why the purportedly same restoration looked different in the theater than it does on that screen cap supposedly from the DVD release.

What's a "screen cap"?

[DreadPirateRoberts]

screen capture

[Kevy Baby]

What's a "screen cap"?Screen Capture - the images that Issac posted are actual Screen Captures from the DVD.
I'm simply wondering why the purportedly same restoration looked different in the theater than it does on that screen cap supposedly from the DVD release.One cannot accurately compare the colors between what is on the screen (I am not sure if you saw a digital or film presentation) and what is on you computer screen.

And I can almost guarantee that what is on you computer screen looks different on my computer screen and on what is on Isaacs and what is on anybody else's screen.

Lastly, projected light (computer screen) will look different than reflected light (movie theatre screen).

Basically, you're f*cked...

[Morrigoon]

I have trouble doing screen caps from DVDs, is there a trick to it? Should I view the DVD through a certain program to make it work or something? Whenever I try it gives me a black box in photoshop.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I haven't done it in a while so I can't remember the ways around it, but that's a copywrite protection feature in most DVD playback programs.

[Snowflake]

I have trouble doing screen caps from DVDs, is there a trick to it? Should I view the DVD through a certain program to make it work or something? Whenever I try it gives me a black box in photoshop.

Any dvd playing software on your PC (if you are using PC) should have a camera icon for which to snapshot. Cineplayer and another on my PC (the name escapes me) both have this option.

[Kevy Baby]

Any dvd playing software on your PC (if you are using PC) should have a camera icon for which to snapshot. Cineplayer and another on my PC (the name escapes me) both have this option.Using this, you could actually steal an entire movie (the audio tracks are usually not protected).

[Morrigoon]

I do use a PC, but haven't seen such an icon, must look for it.

[Isaac]

Yes, but it was blues and greens and purples at the El Cap screening. I am so confused.


And Kevy's right, there's no way to tell what the correct colors are unless they adhere to the archive records. For all I know the correct colors for the stairs are shades of purple and pink.

I'm simply wondering why the purportedly same restoration looked different in the theater than it does on that screen cap supposedly from the DVD release.
Could have something to do with the process of transfering the movie from film to DVD. Could be the particular film print. Could be the type of film. Could be the computer monitor. Hell, the colors looked different on my living room TV from the screen caps I posted from my computer. There's different potential factors. I'm sure if you look at other parts of the film, they'll look different from what you saw @ the El Cap. Take a look at the rest of the DVD images and use those to decide if you approve of the restoration. Just my 2 cents.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

We use the PMS charts at my workWhile I think that's a good idea so you know who to avoid and when, don't the ladies get upset with you for tracking that kind of data?


;)

[Kevy Baby]

While I think that's a good idea so you know who to avoid and when, don't the ladies get upset with you for tracking that kind of data?


;)From my experience, it doesn't require a chart. One KNOWS when the girls are riding the cotton pony.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Yeah, but wouldn't you like to know in advance?

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Oh, and, um, yeah... the castle walkthrough is re-opening--woohoo!

[Gemini Cricket]

Could have something to do with the process of transfering the movie from film to DVD. Could be the particular film print. Could be the type of film. Could be the computer monitor. Hell, the colors looked different on my living room TV from the screen caps I posted from my computer. There's different potential factors. I'm sure if you look at other parts of the film, they'll look different from what you saw @ the El Cap. Take a look at the rest of the DVD images and use those to decide if you approve of the restoration. Just my 2 cents.
It is so easy to color correct something at several stages in a transfer. There could be color correction going on in telecine, during digitizing, etc. When I was transferring films at a previous job, color became really subjective. Lots of times the production crew, director etc would sit in on the process so that the look they were going for was maintained. I could see how the color could change for Sleeping Beauty, I mean are the movie's filmmakers still around?

[Kevy Baby]

I mean are the movie's filmmakers still around?Last I checked, Walt is still dead.

[CoasterMatt]

He's just resting.

[JWBear]

Not dead, just frozen....

[innerSpaceman]

Some of them are still around .... but judging by the ones who were at the El Cap Q&A, not many are still sentient.

The rest of the caps look great, Isaac. But since many colors are pretty, I always judge it by the steps. Thanks for including that cap. I'll certainly be getting the DVD regardless.

[DreadPirateRoberts]

Some of them are still around .... but judging by the ones who were at the El Cap Q&A, not many are still sentient.

The rest of the caps look great, Isaac. But since many colors are pretty, I always judge it by the steps. Thanks for including that cap. I'll certainly be getting the DVD regardless.

You are going to get the blu-ray, right? I hear (http://pocketsymphony.com/2008/10/11/disney-does-it-right-the-masses-rejoice/) it comes with a free DVD.

[Kevy Baby]

You are going to get the blu-ray, right? I hear (http://pocketsymphony.com/2008/10/11/disney-does-it-right-the-masses-rejoice/) it comes with a free DVD.I've heard that too.

The first edition Blu-Ray has a copy of the movie on DVD taped to the front of the case (under the slipcover). I blogged about it on pocketsymphony.com.

I thought I saw a pack that had both Blu-ray and DVD in it. I could be wrong about that, but might be something to look for if you intend to get both.

[MouseWife]

yeah, and if you buy it, don't rip the dvd off of the cover. I don't have it in front of me but it isn't inside the case but rather in a paper holder type thing. Like single cds' might come in?

i'm just sayin'...

[belleh5]

Yes, but it was blues and greens and purples at the El Cap screening. I am so confused.

Me too!! So Isaac what color were the steps in 1959?? ;)

I'm still not sure if I want to buy it again. I already have it on video & special edition dvd.

[Isaac]

My mom saw it @ the Lido theater in Newport Beach when she was 6. I'll ask her. ;)

The DVD is worth buying. The only complaint I have is one bonus feature on the 1997 Widescreen VHS release has STILL not appeared on any of the Sleeping Beauty DVD releases.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/zapppop/sbwidescreenvhs.jpg

The 1997 Widescreen VHS release was really good because there were no commercial before the movie, it was in letterbox format, it was fully restored, and it had bonus features after the film. One of those bonus features was an excerpt from The Mickey Mouse Club show, in which Helene Stanley shows the Mousketeers how she does the modeling for Sleeping Beauty. She lip synched to a demo version of Once Upon A Dream & danced w/ Mousketeer Bobby, while wearing a Briar Rose costume.

For some reason this clip still has not appeared on any of the DVD releases. I hope it does next time.

[Snowflake]

One of those bonus features was an excerpt from The Mickey Mouse Club show, in which Helene Stanley shows the Mousketeers how she does the modeling for Sleeping Beauty. She lip synched to a demo version of Once Upon A Dream & danced w/ Mousketeer Bobby, while wearing a Briar Rose costume.

For some reason this clip still has not appeared on any of the DVD releases. I hope it does next time.

JeezOcriminy, how many more times will Disney re-release it in my lifetime and how many more will I have to buy? ;)

[SzczerbiakManiac]

seven

[innerSpaceman]

Well, I bought it today ... hopefully for the last time, even though that extra is not part of the package. I don't care much about the extras anyway. I watch them once. Sleeping Beauty, I've seen nearly 30 times. Love It.


Thanks everyone for the tip about the DVD being included in the blu-ray. I would certainly have purchased both, and the blu-ray was expensive enough on its own.

[Isaac]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/zapppop/DL112208/Img_9828.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/zapppop/DL112208/Img_9827.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/zapppop/DL112208/Img_9830.jpg


:D:cool:

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Awesome. :cool:

I love the poetic sign, though with Christmas well under way (complete with snow), it's more than a bit ironic.

[Isaac]

Today several websites confirmed the reopening date is this Wednesday.

Only 2 days left! :D

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Today several websites confirmed the reopening date is this Wednesday.

Only 2 days left! :DWe're totally there Wednesday night.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I can't wait!

[Kevy Baby]

We're totally there Wednesday night.We're not. For the first time in about 14 years, we are both without a pass at the same time. Often, one but not the other has been AP challenged, but not both at the same time.

[innerSpaceman]

Wait, wait ... and I don't mind people experiencing before this ... BuT, aren't we going to have a Meet with this in Mind? Real Soon. Xmastime meet. Like if not TK weekend, maybe the next? (slightly less crowded).

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Wait, wait ... and I don't mind people experiencing before this ... BuT, aren't we going to have a Meet with this in Mind? Real Soon. Xmastime meet. Like if not TK weekend, maybe the next? (slightly less crowded).Post a date, if you've got a mind to. We'll see if we can make it. Don't ask for consensus, you won't get it this time of year. We are pretty damn booked from now until '09.

[CoasterMatt]

I hope Disney fans aren't setting themselves up for anticipointment with this.

I wonder how they'll handle the fanboy crowds? Those walkways aren't that big.

[€uroMeinke]

Wednesday huh?

[alphabassettgrrl]

My schedule opens up after the 15th of Dec and I plan to have a couple days at Disney before my pass gets blocked out on the 19th.

[Bornieo: Fully Loaded]

There's gonna be Geek Spooge all over that thing come Weds.

[innerSpaceman]

oh, wednesday is this week's friday, isn't it? Hmmmmmm.

[CoasterMatt]

Wednesday's my Monday :(

[Not Afraid]

Wednesday is HELL.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Wednesday is a wide open day of no previous obligations. I think I'll visit princess Aurora. (I hope I get to yell into the echo chamber)

[Kevy Baby]

The Wednesday before Thanksgiving is typically a very popular day to have pizza delivered.

[Betty]

Wednesday is going to be the longest day evar.

[Prudence]

I'm going to be at the park on the 6th, so I'll probably have to wait until then to see is. Sad cheese.

[Chernabog]

I shall be there Saturday, wooties.

[BarTopDancer]

Wednesday is very doable.

[Isaac]

Wednesday @ 7pm @ the Hub.

Sound good ?

[Moonliner]

Wednesday @ 7pm @ the Hub.

Sound good ?

Photos. Take/post lots 'o photos.

Thanks.

[innerSpaceman]

Unless they close the office early (not a chance), I can't get there before 8 or 8:30. So be prepared to Walk Thru again!!



Oh, and someone please post here or on Twitter if it's not really open, because otherwise I would not be driving down there.

[Not Afraid]

While Wednesday is hell, it may be doable for me to take a trip to Anaheim. Maybe.

[Isaac]

Unless they close the office early (not a chance), I can't get there before 8 or 8:30. So be prepared to Walk Thru again!!
Um,.... the castle area closes @ that time for fireworks.

[JWBear]

Wednesday and Sunday are defiantly out for me. Saturday doesn't look good either

What's DL like on Black Friday? I've never been that day.

[innerSpaceman]

Um,.... the castle area closes @ that time for fireworks.

oh yeah. Well LATE NIGHT WALK THRU!!

[€uroMeinke]

Is anyone besides Brad going?

[Gemini Cricket]

I couldn't talk my way into the Walkthrough today. Mark, Gwyren, Mrs. Gwyren and I were at the park today. We also ran into Superk! and Tall Matt. Mark and I spotted Tony Baxter walking around but didn't think fast enough to say something to him.
:)

[Isaac]

Today @ 5pm the walkthrough reopens !

I'll be there around 6pm, pending traffic.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Is anyone besides Brad going?We are.

[wolfy999]

The Wolfette and I will be there today, but not late enough to do the Walkthrough....unless plans for the evening change for some reason.

[BarTopDancer]

And this will be the last time I flake on Disney due to school.

I forgot I have a partner involved homework assignment scheduled for tonight :(

[SzczerbiakManiac]

I would love to join y'all, but I am seeing Spring Awakening tonight.

[innerSpaceman]

I'm a tentative hopeful.

[Kevy Baby]

I will be in Orange County today.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Aye arr.

'tween the raindrops.

[Prudence]

Alas, tonight I am stuck being a Responsible Adult.

[wolfy999]

I will be in Orange County today.

Aren't you mostly always in OC....since you live there?

[madmonkeygirl]

Nope not me i'm going to my parents house to do some eating and much needed shopping. Besides it's raining outside. If it weren't and Matt was able to go with me that's different. Have fun everyone including Brad (sorry :( now i won't get a last hug). Gotta do the family thing. But then i'm free the whole rest of the season til Xmas. :)

[innerSpaceman]

Um, I don't think Brad will be there. If he were, I'd be leaving right now.


If I knew he was at the Park yesterday, I would have called in sick.


And I'm sick that I think it's gonna turn out I saw him for the last time at his going-away party and didn't know it.



:(

I am one sad cheese.

[madmonkeygirl]

ISM so am i. I wish i had known too i would have done the same thing as it was i worked til 3:30pm exhausted but i would have tried to have gone. Same goes for me. Last time i saw him was at the going away party that i'm so greatful i went to now. :( He can't leave. He just can't. (where is the plan to keep him here?)

[Kevy Baby]

Aren't you mostly always in OC....since you live there?And work...

[Andrew]

I can't go, but I wish I could. I'll see it a few days after Christmas.

[Ghoulish Delight]

I'm home, thanks to my company's "go home early the day before a holiday weekend" policy. CP's off work at 6. We'll be at the hub 7ish.

[innerSpaceman]

Me, too. 7ish ... with the ish being key!

[Sohrshah]

Ok, so Lance and I will try to meet at the hub at 7:00 ish too, let's make a thing of it! :)

[innerSpaceman]

Yay. Even if no walk-thru, a thing it shall be!!

[Moonliner]

Early reports put the line as "all the way to the hub"

[Isaac]

The new walkthrough is awesome :D

Pics & video tomorrow.

[Snowflake]

The new walkthrough is awesome :D

Pics & video tomorrow.

Tease

[innerSpaceman]

I don't want to overhype it, but the Sleeping Beauty Walk-Thru revival is completely RAD, totally charming, impressive, and happy-making.


Go.Now.


It closes at 7pm daily. Um, just as we arrived at the Park. Because it had opened a mere two hours earlier, they re-opened after fireworks tonight (whew!) and may do so thru Sunday, if there's "demand."





I walked through the old Walk-Thru about an hour before it closed for the past seven years, as part of a Mouse-Adventure quest that was really quite precient. The U.S. attacked Afghanistan that afternoon, the Walk-Thru was closed mid-game, and I was one of the last people to experience it by that happy happenstance.


Today's revival, so much improved from the "doll" version of the 80's, was a special delight for me.


And I trust it will delight all of you, too. :snap: :snap:

[Isaac]

iSm: doll version was 1977. ;)

[innerSpaceman]

I miss the glowing cotton ball.



But, um, otherwise ... well, i never thought i'd say this ... but thank god for terrorists!

[Isaac]

thank god for terrorists!
Good thing Ghoulish Delight said it first so you would think of saying it here later :p

[innerSpaceman]

yes, well he lives way closer to the Park, so could have been posted his own line long before I stole it ... but from the looks of things, I'd say he and CP were having a go of it instead of the internet.

[lashbear]

Soooo... Video for those of us who can't wait 111 days ?

[innerSpaceman]

Of the walk-thru .... or GD and CP having a go of it??

[Kevy Baby]

Of the walk-thru .... or GD and CP having a go of it??Either is fine.

[Isaac]

Here's a video of one of the windows:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/c9fasm

[Cadaverous Pallor]

YAY! It is awesome! The old/new effects are beautiful. The hallways themselves are wonderfully themed. The windows include beautiful 2-D effects that will make me bite my tongue when dissing 2-D from today forward. The use of projection is amazing! The imagery just leaps out. I can't believe the difference between that and the "oh hey I'm watching a screen" look in the Nemo subs.

Absolutely wonderful and enjoyable. :)

[RStar]

I finally got the chance to get over there today to see it. I got to it at 7:30pm and they had just closed the entrance and was emptying it out for the fireworks. :(

FYI- it's closed 7:30-10:30 for the fireworks.

[Kevy Baby]

FYI- it's closed 7:30-10:30 for the fireworks.Guessing by the fact that you are posting at 9:10 that you did not stick around for the 10:30 reopening.

Or are you going back?

[innerSpaceman]

According to who seemed to be a very knowledgeable SBWT CM, tonight would be the last night the Walk-Thru will be open post-fireworks.


When we spoke with him on opening night, plans were to then close the attraction at 7pm nightly after Thanksgiving Weekend and not reopen.


Subject, of course, to change. And it seems guest demand has an effect on that decision. So who knows? I just don't want anyone to count on the attraction being re-opened after fireworks ... after tonight.

[RStar]

Guessing by the fact that you are posting at 9:10 that you did not stick around for the 10:30 reopening.

Or are you going back?

Yes, perhaps Friday after work. Not real sure, as I'm extremely busy these days.

[RStar]

Ok, it's Friday.

I went.

I saw.

I'm very pleased. It was absolutly stunning!

But damn! The park was bursting at the seams!

[BarTopDancer]

I saw it last night.

After we walked past some people confused about the mysterious door and stairs that was in front of them.

It's beautiful.

[Andrew]

I finally get to see it tomorrow!

[alphabassettgrrl]

I still need to see this.

[Andrew]

I loved it. It's beautiful.

Check out the "accessible viewing area" as well.

[alphabassettgrrl]

Thank you for the reminder. I will!