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Cadaverous Pallor
11-04-2008, 09:10 AM
Yup, I'm starting it....because there are already some results (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27528804/).

What a cool tradition, I didn't even know about that.

Snowflake
11-04-2008, 09:11 AM
Yup, I'm starting it....because there are already some results (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27528804/).

What a cool tradition, I didn't even know about that.

I heard Obama sent them a thank you already! :cool:

innerSpaceman
11-04-2008, 09:12 AM
I predict the end of LoT as we know it once the elections are over. :)

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 09:17 AM
CNN.com's homepage is all set up for Election Result shenanigans. I think I'll be watching that today and MSNBC.

Betty
11-04-2008, 09:25 AM
I predict the end of LoT as we know it once the elections are over. :)

[sings] It's the end of the world as we know it... and I feel fiiiiiiine. [/singing]

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 09:26 AM
538's 10 Reasons Why You Should Ignore Exit Polls (http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/ten-reasons-why-you-should-ignore-exit.html)

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 09:41 AM
I got to the polling place at 7:20 this morning. There were ~30 people in line ahead of me. It took me 40 minutes to get through it. Not too horrible.

There was one lady looking very confused and frustrated by the voting machine. A couple different workers came over to help her out. She still seemed a bit flustered, but to the credit of the workers, she walked out seemingly with a smile.

Then I got to watch the drama as they tried to figure out if they had to fill out paperwork because they'd assisted her, or if they they didn't have to because it was only assistance with operation of the machine, not assistance in actually voting.

Betty
11-04-2008, 09:50 AM
Yup, I'm starting it....because there are already some results (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27528804/).

What a cool tradition, I didn't even know about that.

Reading that article made me, unexpectedly, a little choked up.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 09:54 AM
Comedy Central's description of Indecision '08:


Comedy Central is trying to keep it hushed, so thank God you came to Indecision 2008 today.
The low budget, art-house special will reunite the giants of fake news at The Daily Show studio and will be broadcast to a limited audience including anyone who has cable or is standing in view of MTV's 44 1/2 foot JumboTron in the heart of Times Square at 10p EST on Election Night.


:D

SzczerbiakManiac
11-04-2008, 10:30 AM
The last few years, I have shown up at my polling place to vote when it opens at 7:00am. At most, there were 5-10 people in front of me. Last year I was actually first in line.

This year, however, when I arrived at 7, there were a hundred people in line! It took about an hour to get through and cast my votes.

As much as I don't like waiting in line, I am exceedingly pleased to see that people are voting. Hopefully we'll break a turn-out record.

Moonliner
11-04-2008, 10:52 AM
I predict the end of LoT as we know it once the elections are over. :)

Really. We'll have to go back to talking about Disney, Bacon and all that crap.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 10:54 AM
getyourassoutofthehouseandvote.com (http://getyourassoutofthehouseandvote.com/)

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 10:56 AM
I predict the end of LoT as we know it once the elections are over. :)There's always the Soooo.... Thread.

JWBear
11-04-2008, 11:04 AM
Really. We'll have to go back to talking about Disney, Bacon and all that crap.

And boobies...

Snowflake
11-04-2008, 11:06 AM
And boobies...

and girthy packages

Moonliner
11-04-2008, 11:06 AM
And boobies...

Well yeah of course boobies. That goes without saying don't it?

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 11:50 AM
If I had known, it might have had an impact on my decision:

Obama Supports Real Change: NCAA Playoff

That's right, Obama supports a true Playoff system for NCAA football. Get it down to eight teams and have a playoff.

One story on it (http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/14308/obama_supports_real_change_ncaa_playoff).

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 11:52 AM
Obama cares about college football?

Damnit, is it too late to change my vote?

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 11:56 AM
Ben & Jerry's to offer free ice cream on Election Day

BURLINGTON, VT. -- On Election Day Tuesday Nov. 4, from 5 - 8 p.m., Ben & Jerry's ice cream Scoop Shops across the U.S. will be giving away free scoops, one to a customer.

"Originally, we planned to give free scoops away just to those who voted. We found out afterwards that certain laws may not allow it. So instead we're celebrating our election with a national party," said Walt Freese, Chief Euphoria Officer of the Vermont based ice-cream maker.


"Democracy never tasted so sweet," added Freese, summing up the effort.
That's actually the entire story at this link (http://www.wkyc.com/news/local/news_article.aspx?storyid=100042&catid=3).

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 11:57 AM
Heh, just posted that in Yes We Can

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 11:58 AM
Heh, just posted that in Yes We CanYeah, but mine was one minute sooner so :p

Strangler Lewis
11-04-2008, 12:07 PM
Hmm. Nearest store is 9.4 miles away. About a gallon of gas to get there and back. Not clear if the offer is good for kids or not. Probably is. I already had a muffin.

This might be the toughest decision I make today.

blueerica
11-04-2008, 12:13 PM
If I had known, it might have had an impact on my decision:

Obama Supports Real Change: NCAA Playoff

That's right, Obama supports a true Playoff system for NCAA football. Get it down to eight teams and have a playoff.

One story on it (http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/14308/obama_supports_real_change_ncaa_playoff).

And it was with that that thousands upon thousands of voters cemented their vote for Obama...

Promo-Man
11-04-2008, 12:13 PM
I voted at about 9:30 AM today. No real line but all of the voting machines were in use.

Moonliner
11-04-2008, 12:22 PM
Ford to give away free Ford Focus Coupes on Election Day


DETROIT, MI. -- On Election Day Tuesday Nov. 4, from 5 - 8 p.m., Ford Motor Company Dealers across the U.S. will be giving away free Ford Focus coupes, one to a customer.

"Originally, we planned to give free cars away just to those who voted for McCain. We found out afterwards that certain laws may not allow it. So instead we're celebrating our election with a national party," said Walt Cheese, Chief Relations Officer of the Michigan based auto manufacture.


"Democracy never drove so smooth," added Cheese, summing up the effort.


That's actually the entire story at this link (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0).

Moonliner
11-04-2008, 12:25 PM
Heh, just posted that in Yes We Can

Yeah, but mine was one minute sooner so :p

And don't forget: You can get free coffee at Starbucks today.

Andrew
11-04-2008, 12:26 PM
Ford to give away free Ford Focus Coupes on Election Day

I'd rather have the ice cream.

(And coffee!)

innerSpaceman
11-04-2008, 12:27 PM
Will the free Ben&Jerry's Lines be longer than the voting lines?

Moonliner
11-04-2008, 12:58 PM
Is anyone else noticing the tubes getting clogged? Page load times across the Internet seem to be creeping up today....

JWBear
11-04-2008, 01:11 PM
Heh, just posted that in Yes We Can

Something tells me that it's going to be a long and repetitive election day.

Alex
11-04-2008, 01:15 PM
I know they aren't particularly reliable, but if anybody out there is breaking the exit poll embargoes, I wouldn't mind having them pointed out.

Drudge usually does if he can get at them.

Moonliner
11-04-2008, 01:18 PM
I know they aren't particularly reliable, but if anybody out there is breaking the exit poll embargoes, I wouldn't mind having them pointed out.

Drudge usually does if he can get at them.

The exit poll here in Maryland shows 100% for Obama, no votes on prop-8.

Of course my sample size is just 1 so there is some room for error but I expect it's as accurate as any other exit poll.

tracilicious
11-04-2008, 01:20 PM
Something tells me that it's going to be a long and repetitive election day.

But at least there's free coffee at Starbucks.

Moonliner
11-04-2008, 01:23 PM
But at least there's free coffee at Starbucks.

Really? Do you need one of those "I Voted" stickers? cuz I gave mine away.

JWBear
11-04-2008, 01:26 PM
But at least there's free coffee at Starbucks.

Really? I hear Krispy Kreme is giving away free doughnuts, too!

blueerica
11-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Mmm... I could use some doughnuts.. NOT!

blueerica
11-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Although the thought is delish!

JWBear
11-04-2008, 01:37 PM
I pity anyone not reading LoT all day today. They're going to have a gazillion posts to wade through tomorrow!

Betty
11-04-2008, 02:06 PM
And many of them will be the same!

Betty
11-04-2008, 02:07 PM
And many of them will be the same! :p

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 02:07 PM
I pity anyone not reading LoT all day today. They're going to have a gazillion posts to wade through tomorrow!
One of them will be Leo.

Snowflake
11-04-2008, 02:13 PM
One of them will be Leo.

:evil: Heh

SzczerbiakManiac
11-04-2008, 02:13 PM
IsObamaPresident.com (http://isobamapresident.com/)

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 04:00 PM
A couple of polling places are closing right now...

ETA: Polls in parts of Indiana, New Hampshire and Kentucky are closed.

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 04:11 PM
anxiousanxiousanxious

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 04:14 PM
I know they aren't particularly reliable, but if anybody out there is breaking the exit poll embargoes, I wouldn't mind having them pointed out.

Drudge usually does if he can get at them.
Drudge currently has a one liner that says exit polls show Obama +15 in Pennsylvania. Another that says Fl, IN, and OH are too close to call and a third that has McCain holding AZ.

Betty
11-04-2008, 04:16 PM
I voted. Yay! Didn't even have to wait too long... although I was in and out lickety split once I got my ballot. What's up with the people in there for 15-20 minutes? Are they just deciding then what to vote for?

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 04:20 PM
Kentucky:

60% McCain
38% Obama

per CNN.com's map

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 04:21 PM
NH:

O: 67%
M: 33%

BarTopDancer
11-04-2008, 04:25 PM
What were the deciding states again?

FL
NV
OH

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 04:26 PM
Those are both in line with polling, slightly tilted further in favor of the leader (realclearpolitics showed McCain at 54% in KY and Obama at 52% in NH).

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 04:27 PM
OH, IN, PA, VA, FL among others

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 04:28 PM
What were the deciding states again?IN, FL, PA, VA, OH are probably the most pivotal in terms of ones that McCain needs to win.

fivethirtyeight.com points to NH and GA as early barometers for how things are going. He figures that if polls have been underestimating Obama's strength, it'll show up as a better showing in GA than predicted. If the polls have been overestimating, it'll show up as a weaker showing in NH. Those early returns from NH are a good sign for Obama by that reasoning.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Per MSNBC - Obama 56-43 in IN! (way early still, of course)

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 04:31 PM
1% reporting in IN shows Obama 56 to McCain 43! I know that you can't judge by 1% but, still, that's pretty great. I guess my sixteen-year-old nephew's campaigning in his home state may have paid off!

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 04:32 PM
IN:

O: 55
M: 44

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 04:43 PM
And just like that, IN is at 50-49 on MSNBC.

tracilicious
11-04-2008, 04:49 PM
I voted today for the first time! Not only was it exciting, but I also got to yell, "That sign is disgusting!" to the person at the polling place holding a "Yes on 102" sign (AZ's version of 8), and "Fvck you!" to the person holding the sign at the corner. Sure it didn't change anything, but I felt better.

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 04:50 PM
At 2% reporting. Spoke to soon, dammit.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 04:56 PM
Whoa, KY just jumped down to 51-48 McCain, and IN is at 50-48 O. It's gonna be a wild one for a while at least.

BarTopDancer
11-04-2008, 05:01 PM
KY is still 51-48 with 9% in.

Alex
11-04-2008, 05:05 PM
Both NBC and CNN have called Kentucky for McCain and Vermont for Obama.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 05:07 PM
So they have.

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 05:11 PM
Why Vermont? I don't see any percentage tallied. I do see a pretty strong New Hampshire, though.

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 05:13 PM
I think CNN is tallying Vermont in New Hampshire's part of the database. Hmm.

Motorboat Cruiser
11-04-2008, 05:15 PM
It's going to be a long night and I don't think I'm going to have any nails left by the end of it.

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 05:15 PM
1% and McCain is up in Virginia. Damn.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 05:16 PM
I think CNN is tallying Vermont in New Hampshire's part of the database. Hmm.
They're going off exit polls.
1% and McCain is up in Virginia. Damn.Florida too, though with 0% reporting. Ugh.

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 05:18 PM
These widgets are pissing me off!

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Exit polls in GA have Obama trailing slightly. And contrary to the numbers from returns, Obama is leading in VA exit polling by a pretty good margin (54% to something)

BarTopDancer
11-04-2008, 05:26 PM
VA - 55-44 with 2% in and KY has the same with 14% in.

This is not good :(

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 05:28 PM
VA - 55-44 with 2% in and KY has the same with 14% in.

This is not good :(KY is already called. And KY was expected to go to McCain, so that's not a big deal. VA is still way too early to call. Exit polling is showing a very different race than the early returns are. Those are probably from heavily red counties.

There's a LONG way to go.

Motorboat Cruiser
11-04-2008, 05:29 PM
They are breaking it down by county on CNN and all things considered, Obama may be doing better than it looks.

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 05:31 PM
And many of them will be the same!And many of them will be the same! :pSomething tells me that it's going to be a long and repetitive election day.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 05:34 PM
Same story in Ohio, Obama's got about 54% in exit polling.

Update: McCain goes up in IN in the returns with 14%, but exit polling still favors Obama.

Further Update: Obama up big (57-43) in Florida with 2%. No exit polling data

Update some more: Dead heat in NC, both by returns and by exit polling

BarTopDancer
11-04-2008, 05:44 PM
Ugh. I hate this. I have a very bad feeling :(

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 05:46 PM
But as we saw from Five Thirty Eight earlier, we should never, ever rely on exit polling. I'm still very, very uncomfortable.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 05:56 PM
But as we saw from Five Thirty Eight earlier, we should never, ever rely on exit polling. I'm still very, very uncomfortable.
True, but also recall that by all accounts, Obama needs just 2 of the key battleground states, and right now Florida's looking strong (16 point lead with 10% reporting) and while Indiana is close, he's way outperforming Kerry in the counties that have reported so far, which is a strong sign. That's 2 right there.

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 05:58 PM
...and while Indiana is close, he's way outperforming Kerry in the counties that have reported so far, which is a strong sign.I think he has a pretty good shot against Kerry across the board.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 05:58 PM
SC called for McCain (expected)

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 05:59 PM
I think he has a pretty good shot against Kerry across the board.
Yes, but it's particularly key in Indiana where Kerry was very close to winning.

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 06:04 PM
Elizabeth Dole - it looks like she's out of a job.
59% Hagan
38% Dole

JWBear
11-04-2008, 06:06 PM
We're going to go get dinner. We're going to the CPK at 2nd & PCH, if anyone wants to join us!

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 06:07 PM
Can't, but if you change your mind there's always room for you at our place. :)

innerSpaceman
11-04-2008, 06:07 PM
I can't eat.

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 06:07 PM
CNN projecting Obama 77 electoral to 34 McCain!

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 06:09 PM
Obama holds PA. Phew. Not that there was much doubt. The rest that have been called were firmly in Obama's column anyway. Same with OK for McCain.

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 06:10 PM
Elizabeth Dole - it looks like she's out of a job.
59% Hagan
38% Dole
Serves her right for that slimy "doesn't believe in god" stunt (not that "she doesn't believe in god" should be an insult to begin with).

Ghoulish Delight
11-04-2008, 06:10 PM
CNN projecting Obama 77 electoral to 34 McCain!
Oh, and MSNBC's got it at 103-34

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 06:11 PM
It looks like Ohio, NC and Florida are going to go to Obama.

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 06:11 PM
Serves her right for that slimy "doesn't believe in god" stunt (not that "she doesn't believe in god" should be an insult to begin with).
I completely agree.

Tom
11-04-2008, 06:11 PM
Obama holds PA.

If true, then that leaves McCain hanging by a thread. He pretty much has to sweep through the rest of the battlegrounds to keep a hope of winning.

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 06:12 PM
Okay, it's early but TEXAS is blue at this moment...

innerSpaceman
11-04-2008, 06:13 PM
And Hell is Frozen. Both subject to change.

Motorboat Cruiser
11-04-2008, 06:21 PM
I can't eat.

I know how you feel. I've completely lost my appetite.

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 06:23 PM
Keep your heads on straight, my friends. These are just projected. I don't think we can be confident yet.

Prudence
11-04-2008, 06:46 PM
Did anyone else have trouble voting today? The other half of my household was told he wasn't listed on the rolls and got the dreaded pink ballot, even though he has his registration card and the lavote.net website lists him as holding a current registration. It really annoys me that there's no way to deal with this. To shut you up they give you a provisional ballot, which is probably round-filed before you even leave the building, and you're left with no other recourse. I'm pretty pissed off for him.

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 06:46 PM
Anyone watching NBC or MSNBC? They look like they're in some sort of video game. Computer background with columns, windows, homing beacon things...
:D

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 07:07 PM
I'll check the papers tomorrow to see the results.

cirquelover
11-04-2008, 07:11 PM
We're watching NBC and others at the moment. I was on ABC because I like George S. It may not even matter what our coast has to say if it keeps up at this rate!

CoasterMatt
11-04-2008, 07:17 PM
Which one promised to restore Mother's Cookies?

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 07:18 PM
Dems pick up 4 seats in the Senate.

CoasterMatt
11-04-2008, 07:21 PM
I found out some neighbors down the street held a 'prayer vigil' AGAINST Prop 8 - they've got a sign in the yard that says "Do Unto Others As You'd Have Them Do Unto You - Christians Against Hatred"

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 07:26 PM
OMG!
Obama's going to win this.
I am so happy!
He just got Ohio and it looks like he's going to get Florida.

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 07:35 PM
Obama just got New Mexico!!!!

Cadaverous Pallor
11-04-2008, 07:38 PM
I keep repeating - projections, projections, projections.

BUT - take the projections and add in CA, OR, WA, and HI, and Obama has won. JUST PROJECTIONS, SO NO CHAMPAGNE YET, KIDS.

Not Afraid
11-04-2008, 07:47 PM
I'll take projections, but I still remember Gore's loss pretty well.

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 08:04 PM
Ken has guessed McCain will give his big LOSER speech in 2 more hours.

I predict sometime within the next hour. :snap:

Not Afraid
11-04-2008, 08:10 PM
Its hopeless.

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 08:11 PM
SD's abortion ban was voted down.
CO's fertilization is the start of life amendment was also voted down.
Nice.

Andrew
11-04-2008, 08:13 PM
Ken has guessed McCain will give his big LOSER speech in 2 more hours.

I predict sometime within the next hour. :snap:
He'll wait until the West Coast closes. Then there won't be any point in waiting any longer.

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 08:17 PM
[Varuka Salt] But, I want it NOW! [/Varuka Salt]

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 08:21 PM
I honestly don't know why people are sweating the Presidential election. Counting the votes is just a formality a this point as Obama has this thing locked. He has 200 Electoral at this point and gets 55 more with Cali. I am sure he can easily find another 15.

JWBear
11-04-2008, 08:21 PM
CNN just called Texas for McCain. No surprise there.

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 08:23 PM
I'm not sweating. After seeing those numbers, I started celebrating. :D

BDBopper
11-04-2008, 08:23 PM
I'd like to come by and offer my congratulations to all of you. I suspect that pretty much everyone around here is happy with the result that are coming in. Some of you have worked hard and I'm glad to see that at least some of it...if not all...will be rewarded. I'm glad to know that some of my good friends will not have to experience the pain and heartache that I felt last March after working my pants off for my candidate in a losing effort. Congrats to y'all on a job well done. My hat goes off to y'all.

Motorboat Cruiser
11-04-2008, 08:30 PM
If anyone needs a little humorous interlude, Comedy Central is pretty funny right now.

BarTopDancer
11-04-2008, 08:33 PM
I'm more concerned about 4 and 8 at this point.

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 08:33 PM
I'm more concerned about 4 and 8 at this point.THAT I'll give you

Not Afraid
11-04-2008, 08:38 PM
Every time I watch CNN I sing the Capitol Steps song "Wolfe Blitzer, Scud Stud" sung to the tune of Moon River.

Not Afraid
11-04-2008, 08:43 PM
I wish I was in Grant Park right about now.

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 08:45 PM
I wish I was in Grant Park right about now.
Me too.

Bornieo: Fully Loaded
11-04-2008, 08:56 PM
Who's Grant Park?

Not Afraid
11-04-2008, 08:58 PM
If Grant Park was a Who, I want him to be in me, not the other way around. ;)

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 09:00 PM
Now at 220.

Buh-bye, McCain. Buh-bye.

But, damn, I'm gonna miss the comedy of Palin.

I'm almost having mixed feelings... ;)

Not Afraid
11-04-2008, 09:01 PM
CNN Called it. PROJECTED - OBAMA as PRESIDENT!

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 09:01 PM
PRESIDENT OBAMA!

BarTopDancer
11-04-2008, 09:02 PM
YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 09:02 PM
JUST PROJECTIONS, SO NO CHAMPAGNE YET, KIDS.How about now? ;)

Even Fox News just conceded and announced "President Obama".

Andrew
11-04-2008, 09:03 PM
WE just opened ours.

I am so, so, so very very happy.

Moonliner
11-04-2008, 09:03 PM
Whoa, KY just jumped down to 51-48 McCain, and IN is at 50-48 O. It's gonna be a wild one for a while at least.

CNN just called it for Obama, so no. I don't think it will be.

keith - SuPeR K!
11-04-2008, 09:04 PM
YAY! Now to wait on Prop 8 results...

Tom
11-04-2008, 09:04 PM
Congratulations, President -Elect Obama.

Bornieo: Fully Loaded
11-04-2008, 09:05 PM
NBC called President Obama!!

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 09:06 PM
I am in tears.
:)

Isaac
11-04-2008, 09:08 PM
YAY! Now to wait on Prop 8 results...
Exactly!

I've been anxiously awaiting the results on that one.

My mom voted yes on it but I accidentally confused my dad & he voted no on it.

Heheheh!

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 09:08 PM
I've never felt this thrilled over anything political. :D

Isaac
11-04-2008, 09:10 PM
My mom just said to me (and I quote):

"Well, the one you voted for, won. America just died tonight."

She thinks Obama is the anti-christ. :rolleyes:

JWBear
11-04-2008, 09:11 PM
O-BA-MAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scrooge McSam
11-04-2008, 09:16 PM
I am in tears.
:)

Enjoy it! I am

Now... Prop 8

I'm getting no sleep tonight.

ozron
11-04-2008, 09:19 PM
Well, now to wait for the Zoo levy....

What?

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 09:28 PM
McCain's concession speech is wonderful. He's a good guy.
I'm afraid that Palin will be the scapegoat for his loss.

BarTopDancer
11-04-2008, 09:29 PM
8 is doing well. fvck fvck :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

flippyshark
11-04-2008, 09:29 PM
You are right, it is a very gracious concession speech, but DAMN, the crowd is NOT happy! (Lots of booing every time Obama's name has come up, and as the speech ends, they sound like they are getting ready to riot. - yikes.).)

Bornieo: Fully Loaded
11-04-2008, 09:30 PM
McCain just whispered in Palin's ear "It's your fault."

hehe

lashbear
11-04-2008, 09:30 PM
Congratulations President Obama !!! :snap:

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 09:31 PM
(Lots of booing every time Obama's name has come up, and as the speech ends, they sound like they are getting ready to riot. - yikes.).)
Yet, it was the Red voters at the last election who condemned the Blue voters for the same "childish behavior". Um.... I seriously need to go dig up some of those posts from various sites from four years ago.

flippyshark
11-04-2008, 09:31 PM
8 is doing well. fvck fvck

You've got to be kidding! (Here is Florida, we've got pretty much the same stupid thing as our Prop 2, and I'm sure it will pass.) I can't wait for this particular brand of bigotry to die.

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 09:33 PM
What's next? Having separate drinking fountains labeled "Homo", so the Yes on 8 folks won't have to worry about catching the Gay? :rolleyes:

I'm not giving up hope, but I'm feeling quite sick right now.

keith - SuPeR K!
11-04-2008, 09:33 PM
McCain had an awesome concession speech. Props to McCain for that.

Gemini Cricket
11-04-2008, 09:34 PM
I can not wait for Obama's speech. I'm all tears now. I can't imagine what I'm going to be like during his speech!
:D

Isaac
11-04-2008, 09:38 PM
What's next? Having separate drinking fountains labeled "Homo", so the Yes on 8 folks won't have to worry about catching the Gay? :rolleyes:

I'm not giving up hope, but I'm feeling quite sick right now.

An old post of mine that came to mind:

http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=2151 (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=2151)

Capt Jack
11-04-2008, 09:38 PM
an historic moment to be sure

Cadaverous Pallor
11-04-2008, 09:40 PM
Yes, We Did.

Thank you, America.

LSPoorEeyorick
11-04-2008, 09:41 PM
OBAMA! **** YES.

belleh5
11-04-2008, 09:42 PM
YAY! Now to wait on Prop 8 results...

55% Yes, %45 No



:mad: :mad: :mad: :(


60,000 people at Grant Park.....

wolfy999
11-04-2008, 09:42 PM
Prop 8...it's still early...don't give up hope!

Scrooge McSam
11-04-2008, 09:44 PM
It's no easier watching it happen in your home than it was watching it happen in mine.

:(

JWBear
11-04-2008, 09:47 PM
President Barack Obama... Damn! It makes me so happy to type that!

wendybeth
11-04-2008, 09:55 PM
President Barack Obama... Damn! It makes me so happy to type that!

Same here, JW. It's been a long time since I've been this happy, and the first time ever that I've liked a candidate so well. I'm also really, really proud of our country- the people saw through the rhetoric and mudslinging and elected a most deserving man.

Has anyone any spare Effexor for Scaeagles?;)

Not Afraid
11-04-2008, 09:58 PM
OMG! It's REAL!

CoasterMatt
11-04-2008, 09:59 PM
I'm so proud to be an American tonight, but I'm not so sure about California at the moment.

belleh5
11-04-2008, 10:01 PM
I'm so proud to be an American tonight, but I'm not so sure about California at the moment.

Ditto!!

Come on California!!!:confused:

Gn2Dlnd
11-04-2008, 10:01 PM
I'm so fvcking proud right now!

Not Afraid
11-04-2008, 10:05 PM
If we can elect Obama as a president we can get gay marriage accepted in California - Yes We Can.

Kevy Baby
11-04-2008, 10:07 PM
So what is Joe Biden going to do? He won two elections tonight.

belleh5
11-04-2008, 10:07 PM
Great speech!!! :cheers:



So what is Joe Biden going to do? He won two elections tonight.


Just like Mickey, One on Main St and one in Toon Town....:D

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 10:07 PM
Dems in da House!!!!!! :snap:

Isaac
11-04-2008, 10:12 PM
If we can elect Obama as a president we can get gay marriage accepted in California - Yes We Can.
Yeah, except Obama opposes same sex marriage.

CoasterMatt
11-04-2008, 10:19 PM
After that speech, I'm speechless.

Not Afraid
11-04-2008, 10:20 PM
OK, now I'm crying.

belleh5
11-04-2008, 10:21 PM
OK, now I'm crying.

Me too!!:(

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 10:21 PM
Poor guy is gonna need a big pooper-scooper to sweep up the mess from the last four years though.

But, yeah. Awesome speech. :)

Bornieo: Fully Loaded
11-04-2008, 10:24 PM
Rare moment seeing history take place before our eyes. Amazing.

JWBear
11-04-2008, 10:29 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen... I'm happy to report that the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned back on.

JWBear
11-04-2008, 10:39 PM
Right now, Bill is dancing around the room singing "goodbye Sarah Palin!"

SzczerbiakManiac
11-04-2008, 10:41 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen... I'm happy to report that the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned back on.I wish I could agree (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#CAI01).

JWBear
11-04-2008, 10:44 PM
I was speaking nationally. I'm not too concerned about 8. It will be challenged in court before it can be put in effect.

Morrigoon
11-04-2008, 10:47 PM
Holy ****, you should have heard Nader on Fox News just now! You gotta work pretty hard to piss of the Fox News guys when ragging on a Democrat! But Nader still managed to do it.

Morrigoon
11-04-2008, 10:50 PM
Predicting the end of Nader's career for those last comments.

JWBear
11-04-2008, 11:18 PM
I'm exhausted. Time to go to bed. Night all!

wendybeth
11-04-2008, 11:38 PM
Yeah, except Obama opposes same sex marriage.

Personally he does, but he does not believe that the Government should have any say in the matter. Remember, he was a Constitutional Law professor for a number of years, and he does not believe that his personally held religious beliefs should be foisted upon the nation as a whole. It's going to be rather refreshing having someone this intelligent in office for a change.

Snowflake
11-04-2008, 11:42 PM
For the record, McCain's speech was terrific. I was impressed at his grace in what had to have been a bitter blow. For this, my hat is off to him as well. I hope he makes good on it and his pledge to cross the aisle.

Disneyphile
11-04-2008, 11:43 PM
My dad's upset. He said, "Welcome to the USSA, kid!" and "Sadaam is now running our country!"

Aw.

I just grinned and replied, "Well, if you don't like it here, you're welcome to leave." ;)

That was what he said to me four years ago. He wasn't amused. :evil:

ozron
11-05-2008, 01:01 AM
Just to put my own perspective in the mix...

http://blog.oregonlive.com/elections/2008/11/zoobond.html

Thank you, Oregon! $125,000,000 will improve aging animals spaces, update the animal hospital and improve our water system - saving 11 million gallons of water a year!

I now return you to Prop 8...

Boss Radio
11-05-2008, 03:30 AM
I have not felt such elation since Quisp defeated Quake in a landside back in the early 70s.

Finally. A guy who can speak. In calm, reassuring tones, no less. And with a soaring, optimism...and proper sentence structure.

In the immortal words of Steve Allen, this could be the start of something big.
Congratulations, America. You're not as dumb as you look on paper.

Moonliner
11-05-2008, 04:48 AM
Wow. It's Wedneday morning and it looks like Prop-8 is still too close to call.

Strangler Lewis
11-05-2008, 06:56 AM
I have not felt such elation since Quisp defeated Quake in a landside back in the early 70s.

Finally. A guy who can speak. In calm, reassuring tones, no less. And with a soaring, optimism...and proper sentence structure.

In the immortal words of Steve Allen, this could be the start of something big.
Congratulations, America. You're not as dumb as you look on paper.

Here we differ. I voted for Quake because he did the real work of the universe while Quisp just flew around hopped up on the hippie lettuce.

Here, however, I am guardedly optimistic. Guarded optimism may not sound like much, but it is a far cry from what I might have been, which was completely distraught.

Stan4dSteph
11-05-2008, 07:20 AM
Thank you, Oregon! $125,000,000 will improve aging animals spaces, update the animal hospital and improve our water system - saving 11 million gallons of water a year!Awesome! Congratulations ozron.

Kevy Baby
11-05-2008, 07:51 AM
Congratulations, America. You're not as dumb as you look on paper.Except California

Wow. It's Wednesday morning and it looks like Prop-8 is still too close to call.No, it's over (the Proposition, not the battle). Not technically, but effectively.

Moonliner
11-05-2008, 07:52 AM
Except California

No, it's over (the Proposition, not the battle). Not technically, but effectively.

Oh. :(

Cadaverous Pallor
11-05-2008, 08:31 AM
My absolute elation at the election of my presidential candidate is sorely dampened by Prop 8.

Fvckers.

Cadaverous Pallor
11-05-2008, 08:42 AM
Supporters around the world (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/reactions-around-the-worl_n_141187.html)

Stan4dSteph
11-05-2008, 09:53 AM
Supporters around the world (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/reactions-around-the-worl_n_141187.html)Cool! I love the shot from Obama, Japan and the writing on the window in the Netherlands.

Kevy Baby
11-05-2008, 09:56 AM
Cool! I love the shot from Obama, Japan and the writing on the window in the Netherlands.Did you notice the ears on the Obama caricature? Far right side of the banner in the lower right corner of the picture.

My, what big ears you have Mr. President-Elect

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/599/slide_599_12453_large.jpg

tracilicious
11-05-2008, 10:03 AM
My absolute elation at the election of my presidential candidate is sorely dampened by Prop 8.

Fvckers.


Ditto this with 102. A$$hats. Give it time. Two steps forward, one step back.

Gemini Cricket
11-05-2008, 10:28 AM
My absolute elation at the election of my presidential candidate is sorely dampened by Prop 8.

Fvckers.
I don't think your happiness should be dampened. You worked so hard for Obama and all that work helped him win last night. I think you should celebrate. The time for caution is over, he won. Yee haw!
:)

Prop 8 passed, but it will be challenged, it will be struck down and there will be marriage equality in the future. I believe that strongly. What really makes me happy was that in the end the Yes on 8 people did not take away what truly matters: they can't nullify a person's love for another. That's still there. They think they may own the truth, but they don't.

JWBear
11-05-2008, 10:34 AM
Bill wants to make a big sign for our front window that announces that the separation of church and state died on 11/4/08.

Kevy Baby
11-05-2008, 12:04 PM
Prop 8 passed, but it will be challenged, it will be struck down and there will be marriage equality in the future. I believe that strongly.While I agree with your optimism for the future, I am truly embarrassed to be a part of the body of people who passed this proposition. It really makes me ill.

Strangler Lewis
11-05-2008, 12:07 PM
At least we haven't done what Arkansas did yesterday about adoptions. But I wouldn't be surprised to see us try.

Gemini Cricket
11-05-2008, 12:10 PM
While I agree with your optimism for the future, I am truly embarrassed to be a part of the body of people who passed this proposition. It really makes me ill.
I hear you. But take comfort in the fact that you are on the right side. Even though the rebels blew up the first Death Star they were still on the run and got their asses kicked on Hoth. The complete victory happened later. We will have our Ewok Moment!
:D

innerSpaceman
11-05-2008, 12:30 PM
Hahaha, what's with all the Star Wars analogies today, G.C.?



Don't get me wrong, it's adorable. :)

Isaac
11-05-2008, 12:39 PM
Use the force, Barack !

Ghoulish Delight
11-05-2008, 12:41 PM
OMG.

The race is too close to call, but with 99% of precincts reporting, convicted crook Ted Stevens is leading by ~3,400 votes. I know that most people voting for him are doing so simply to keep the Dem out of the office, but still!

Moonliner
11-05-2008, 12:44 PM
OMG.

The race is too close to call, but with 99% of precincts reporting, convicted crook Ted Stevens is leading by ~3,400 votes. I know that most people voting for him are doing so simply to keep the Dem out of the office, but still!

Better the crook you know.....

Besides, if Stevens wins his race he stands a better chance of getting booted out on some type of esthetics charge during his term and peww peww Palin is in like flint...

Moonliner
11-05-2008, 01:28 PM
I noticed in the flood of information yesterday, that the High Speed Rail initiative passed in California. So how long before I can cruse along the Cali coastline at 200+ mph?

Promo-Man
11-05-2008, 01:40 PM
Never as it is an inland route

Moonliner
11-05-2008, 01:43 PM
Never as it is an inland route

Pooh. Can't you Californians do anything right?

Ghoulish Delight
11-05-2008, 02:11 PM
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/election.png

Alex
11-05-2008, 04:51 PM
Besides, if Stevens wins his race he stands a better chance of getting booted out on some type of esthetics charge during his term and peww peww Palin is in like flint...

If Stevens wins he will almost certainly resign. If he doesn't resign, the Democrats in Congress will almost certainly refuse to seat him (yes, they can do that) and the Republicans will be forced to go along.

Then when the seat is vacant, because of the last Alaska vacancy (when the governor appointed his daughter to the job), there will be a special election.

In which Sarah Palin will almost certainly choose to run.

And since she remains popular in Alaska and the state is solidly Republican. She will almost certainly be elected to the United States Senate sometime next month.

Moonliner
11-05-2008, 04:53 PM
If Stevens wins he will almost certainly resign. If he doesn't resign, the Democrats in Congress will almost certainly refuse to seat him (yes, they can do that) and the Republicans will be forced to go along.

Then when the seat is vacant, because of the last Alaska vacancy (when the governor appointed his daughter to the job), there will be a special election.

In which Sarah Palin will almost certainly choose to run.

And since she remains popular in Alaska and the state is solidly Republican. She will almost certainly be elected to the United States Senate sometime next month.

I really hate it when my sarcastic musings turn out to have a basis in reality.

BarTopDancer
11-05-2008, 05:13 PM
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/political-pictures-barack-obama-family-values.jpg

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/political-pictures-john-mccain-conceding-with-class.jpg

BarTopDancer
11-05-2008, 05:21 PM
I'm posting this here cause it's election related...

I have an awesome Poly Sci teacher. The assignments are horrible - 1500 word papers every 2 weeks, and the weeks between are 300 word papers. The word count isn't horrible, the type of papers they are, is. Let's just say I'd rather retake Stats then write these papers ;)

Anyways, I had asked for an extension on last weeks assignment because I was really behind due to the election and Prop 8 stuff I was doing. I asked if I could turn it in on Thursday (tomorrow). Last night I didn't get it even started and knew there was no way I was going to get it done. I basically begged for an extension and asked him to confirm that my caculation in my grade for not doing it was correct.

He wrote back with this

Marla,

Due to my extreme joy as a result of the historic presidential election which has once again demonstrated American worldwide leadership and a revalidation of the two core values of our founding documents: respect for human rights and the the respect for the rule of law, I intend to be sending a note to the class later tonight or tomorrow changing the lesson 6 assignment to a very simple requirement, essentially a freeby. So just keep plowing away on Lesson 5 and you will be caught up as soon as you finish that assignment.


Did I mention he's a Colonel in the Army?

Cadaverous Pallor
11-05-2008, 07:45 PM
I just gotta crow for one second here.

Barack won Nevada by 12 percentage points. Double digits.

:)

Cadaverous Pallor
11-05-2008, 08:13 PM
So, you guys see this Al Franken stuff? I can't believe he's gotten so far, and can't believe the douche he's running against actually claimed victory (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/senate.election/index.html?iref=newssearch) with a few hundred vote lead. (I've seen different figures everywhere, from 270 votes to 700 votes.) With 3 million cast for these guys, gimme a break. Thankfully it triggers a recount automatically.

Andrew
11-05-2008, 08:13 PM
I just gotta crow for one second here.

Barack won Nevada by 12 percentage points. Double digits.

:)
Nicely done! :D

Kevy Baby
11-05-2008, 08:52 PM
So, you guys see this Al Franken stuff? I can't believe he's gotten so far, and can't believe the douche he's running against actually claimed victory (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/05/senate.election/index.html?iref=newssearch) with a few hundred vote lead.So it was douche vs. douche in Minnesota?

CoasterMatt
11-05-2008, 08:58 PM
Sponsored by Summer's Eve

Cadaverous Pallor
11-05-2008, 09:02 PM
So it was douche vs. douche in Minnesota?Heh, yeah, pretty much.


The Onion's coverage (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/black_man_given_nations)

What should I do now??? (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive)

Kevy Baby
11-06-2008, 09:18 AM
The Onion's coverage (http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/black_man_given_nations)Hee hee


What should I do now??? (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive)What was this one? It is gone now

Cadaverous Pallor
11-06-2008, 09:27 AM
What was this one? It is gone nowApparently there's trouble at the Onion today, even the link on their front page isn't working. This link (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOnion) seems to be working.

Kevy Baby
11-06-2008, 10:21 AM
Apparently there's trouble at the Onion today, even the link on their front page isn't working. This link (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOnion) seems to be working.Unfortunately, I can't watch at work (or more specifically, I can't LISTEN at work). But I WILL have to catch this later simply because the headline caught my attention:

Obama Win Causes Obsessed Backers To See How Empty Lives Are


That looks funny

Ghoulish Delight
11-06-2008, 11:06 AM
It's moot, but NBC is calling North Carolina for Obama.

Ghoulish Delight
11-06-2008, 11:14 AM
Oh, and currently the popular vote stands at 52.4% to 46.3%. fivethirtyeight.com's final projection was 52.3% to 46.2%. Pffft, he got it wrong.

Alex
11-06-2008, 02:07 PM
Nebraska and Maine are the only two states that don't award their electoral votes in an all or nothing block.

Apparently it is looking like the slowly counted provisional and early mail ballots in Nebraska's Omaha district will be enough to tip that electoral vote to Obama. I blame name confusion, the locals thought they were checking where they lived.

Ghoulish Delight
11-07-2008, 08:53 AM
So I know it's only one election and all, but damn if fivethirtyeight.com didn't nail it! Within fractions of a percent on the popular vote, and called every electoral vote right except for Indiana and the Omaha district in Nebraska. Dude knows his statistics!

bewitched
11-07-2008, 09:14 AM
Unfortunately, I can't watch at work (or more specifically, I can't LISTEN at work). But I WILL have to catch this later simply because the headline caught my attention:

Obama Win Causes Obsessed Backers To See How Empty Lives Are


That looks funny

The video. (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive)

LOL:

"The nation is preparing for the onslaught of obnxious kids with the first name 'Barak'"


eta: oops. That was CP's 2nd link.

Gemini Cricket
11-07-2008, 09:17 AM
Is this simply a case of cognitive dissonance? By now, the media has reported the importance of the Latino vote to Obama's win in such key states as Florida, New Mexico, and Colorado. President-elect Obama, (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Barack_Obama) by some early estimates, garnered the largest share of the Latino vote of any candidate in history, carrying it by more than 2 to 1 over John McCain.
In spite of what seems to be sweeping approval for a progressive agenda, Latino support of Prop. 8 has exposed an entrenched bias against homosexuality at once profound and confounding.
Perhaps because of the teachings of the Roman Catholic priests and now the evangelical preachers who have captured many Latinos' devotional intensity; or simply because of the macho albatross we all carry as part of our Latino heritage, the very idea of gay marriage is anathema to many in the Latino community.
Source (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/06/espuelas.prop.eight/index.html)

Tom
11-07-2008, 09:44 AM
So I know it's only one election and all, but damn if fivethirtyeight.com didn't nail it! Within fractions of a percent on the popular vote, and called every electoral vote right except for Indiana and the Omaha district in Nebraska. Dude knows his statistics!

Which shows that polls are indeed meaningful, if you know how to read them.

Gemini Cricket
11-07-2008, 10:41 AM
So I know it's only one election and all, but damn if fivethirtyeight.com didn't nail it! Within fractions of a percent on the popular vote, and called every electoral vote right except for Indiana and the Omaha district in Nebraska. Dude knows his statistics!
I was amazed as well. I admit fully to mousepod that, yes I should have had more than just a glimmer of hope when looking at the 538 stats before the 4th.
:)

Alex
11-07-2008, 11:04 AM
He may have been right, but I must say that Nate Silver looks like a villain in his TV appearances. Evil genius glasses, high forehead, moist lips. Generally no hint of a smile and when he smiles pointy teeth.

He also tips his head forward when talking to the camera, resulting in looking out the top of his eye sockets.

Cadaverous Pallor
11-10-2008, 10:59 PM
http://i35.tinypic.com/qrduro.jpg

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinion/ssi/images/Toles/c_11052008_520.gif

http://www.daytondailynews.com/custom/content/gen/peters/cartoons/ddn110508peters.gif

http://blogs.chron.com/nickanderson/archives/and1105color1.jpg

http://blogs.chron.com/nickanderson/archives/and110408b1.jpg

http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=6b50e503d4&view=att&th=11d89a08421f2060&attid=0.9&disp=emb&zw

http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=6b50e503d4&view=att&th=11d89a08421f2060&attid=0.10&disp=emb&zw

http://www.cagle.com/working/081105/plante.jpg

http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2008/11/07/081109_will_return.jpg

http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2008/11/05/081105_the_presidency___.jpg

http://www.cagle.com/working/081109/fitzsimmons.jpg

http://www.cagle.com/working/081104/fitzsimmons.jpg

http://blog.al.com/jdcrowe/2008/11/11-5-08OBAMA44-1.jpg

Kevy Baby
11-11-2008, 11:57 AM
http://i35.tinypic.com/qrduro.jpg
Which way should the Gay Rights sign be pointing in this cartoon?

Isaac
11-11-2008, 12:11 PM
There is no gay.

Yeah, Obama is against gay marriage so I don't think he'll be doing much to help us fags.

BarTopDancer
11-11-2008, 12:16 PM
There is no gay.

Yeah, Obama is against gay marriage so I don't think he'll be doing much to help us fags.

He personally does not believe in it, but he has said that he doesn't believe his personal beliefs should be implemented as law.

Ghoulish Delight
11-11-2008, 12:19 PM
There is no gay.

Yeah, Obama is against gay marriage so I don't think he'll be doing much to help us fags.And (at risk of pumping him up too much) Lincoln wasn't against slavery.

Given the opportunity to do something within his power to promote equality, I believe Obama would make the right decision.

Isaac
11-11-2008, 12:21 PM
We'll soon find out.

Cadaverous Pallor
11-11-2008, 02:21 PM
Current prop results. (http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/props/allprops.htm)

Spread on Prop 8 is 481,130 votes.

The State's continuously updated unprocessed ballot report. (http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/c-status08/total_unprocessed_ballots08.pdf)

Remaining ballots to be counted as of yesterday: 2,103,521.

Unprocessed ballot info. (http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Misc/votebymail.htm)
California's 58 county elections officials count all legally cast ballots and include them in the final election results that are published 35 days after each election.

So, we'll have to wait until December 9th for the real result. I would say something about how early ballots have leaned overwhelmingly Dem in this election (supposedly) but I don't want to get my hopes up.

Kevy Baby
11-11-2008, 03:16 PM
As much as I wish for it, I would be EXTREMELY surprised if the vote on H8 got turned around.

Alex
11-11-2008, 04:02 PM
I'd point out that 500,000 was the gap when they were reporting about 3 million votes still to be counted. You never know but I wouldn't put much hope into the result changing.

BarTopDancer
11-11-2008, 04:08 PM
It seems like that spread has been consistent since Tuesday. Not much hope, but a little.

JWBear
11-11-2008, 08:03 PM
As much as I wish for it, I would be EXTREMELY surprised if the vote on H8 got turned around.

I would laugh, and laugh, and laugh.....

Cadaverous Pallor
11-11-2008, 08:49 PM
Now that I found those links I just know I'll be clicking them every day. :rolleyes:

Betty
11-12-2008, 08:17 AM
Current prop results. (http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/props/allprops.htm)



I live in a county of effin bigots. WTF!

innerSpaceman
11-12-2008, 08:44 AM
Heheh, one of my favorite signs at the Silverlake March:

"OMG CA WTF?"


:D

Alex
11-20-2008, 03:14 PM
An interesting article (http://minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2008/11/19_challenged_ballots/) on Minnesota Public Radio showing some of the disputed absentee ballots in the Al Franken/Norm Coleman senate race in that state.

It also lets you vote on how you think it should be counted. Most of them struck me as pretty obvious decisions but it must suck to make that decision with two campaigns yelling in opposite directions.

Moonliner
12-03-2008, 07:09 AM
Thank you Georgia!


Republican U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss beat back a prolonged challenge from Democrat Jim Martin on Tuesday to win a second term in office

Chambliss’s victory means Republicans now will have at least 41 votes in the upper chamber, enough to stop major legislative initiatives by the Democratic majority in the U.S. Congress.


While I'm optimistic about Obama and his "Change" I would rather not have either party rummaging through my wallet totally unchecked.

A little balance is a good thing.

Alex
12-03-2008, 07:43 AM
Even if they did elect an absolute ogre of a person.

That said, I don't think 58, 59, or 60 makes all that much difference except psychologically, since under most conditions you don't get absolute party unanimity. And not having exactly 60 might actually make things a bit easier for the Democratic whips. If they had 60 each Democratic senator would know that on any high profile party splitting bill they hold a lot of power to wring additional concessions for their district/state. This way they can say "well, we already need to get one Republican on board, and if we can do that we can get two and screw you."

Cadaverous Pallor
12-03-2008, 08:32 AM
Now that I found those links I just know I'll be clicking them every day. :rolleyes:I'm not sure I understand why but they aren't updating any more. Final results available December 13.

Oh, and Prop 8 has gained. :(

Snowflake
12-03-2008, 09:06 AM
Even if they did elect an absolute ogre of a person.


Oh, so this is why he reminds me of Shrek.