285 Lb Bear Breaks Ride @ DL

[lashbear]

...A headline I don't want to see - so I am now doing Weightwatchers Points again.

Sigh.

...At least I found a groovy App for the iPhone to track my daily food diary & points. :cheers:

Here's to Less Of Me.

[Stan4dSteph]

Best wishes to you! I'm about to rejoin myself. Is that iPhone app an official WW product, or something someone else created?

[lashbear]

It's called Edibles (http://www.macworld.com/article/135066/2008/08/edibles.html?lsrc=rss_weblogs_iphonecentral): it's suitable to WW Points, Atkins, South Beach, Calorie Counting or other hybrid systems. I'm finding it easy to use, but you have to build up the data as you enter it, so you need to know the points value of your foods you're entering.

If you've done WW before, you should have a points calculator anyway, or you can use the points calculator available as a separate app: iWatchr (http://appshopper.com/healthcare-fitness/iwatchr)

[wendybeth]

Okay, Lash- I'd like to drop a size before your visit, so I'll join you on this one! I have a pathological hatred of WW's, as they used to have a meeting place next to our salon and they were the WORST neighbors ever (even got kicked out of the mall), but I have done Atkins in the past and will give it another go. (I don't really like sugar, so it's an easier one for me). Let's keep tabs on another and keep each other in line, okay? Diets are off once you arrive, however.:evil:

[lizziebith]

I lost 17 lbs earlier this year on WW easily...but over the con season, away from my own food, put it back on. Was just complaining tonight to hubby about it. We plan to hop back on the day after US Thanksgiving (November 27). I like WW...it's not weird and faddy (I will go on no anti-potato "diet" -- my ancestors would howl for all eternity) and we like the recipes. In fact we were saving money on WW. I don't do meetings of any sort *shudders* but I like the easy online points calcs. I need to step up the treadmill action too. Blech...I hate sweating....:blush:

[wendybeth]

You know, the potato thing is problematic*...... If WW has some online thing, I could check it out. I just hate the people who have a monopoly on the meeting places in this town, and I have very limited time to run to meetings and such.




*Potato crackhead here.

[Moonliner]

And there is always my way..... (http://www.loungeoftomorrow.com/LoT/showthread.php?t=7569&highlight=KevyIsFullOfIt) I'm down 16 pounds.

[Stan4dSteph]

If WW has some online thing, I could check it out. There is. I did the online, never went to a meeting. I'm hoping it's improved a little bit. There was a beta version of a new tool that was very buggy and I ended up dropping out a year ago.

[Strangler Lewis]

1) No late night eating.
2) No alcohol or dessert except on truly special occasions.
3) At minimum, daily walks. With the dog or, perhaps, through Ikea.
4) Carbs limited to one whole grain slice of bread with each meal. Dip a little olive oil or balsamic if you need to.
5) Not too much cheese.
6) Send me a check.

[~MS~]

Lash PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be careful dieting with your diabetes! Do the little six meal a day thing limited to one carb serving per meal and you will lose weight safely! Hubby just went thru a series of 'classes' for his and I learned a LOT on how to help him maintain his sugars without making meals so unfun as to make it almost impossible to even try to be good.

But I'm with Wendybeth all bets are off when you get here, that's what fast acting/sliding scale insulin is for!

[lashbear]

As I weighed in this morning, I realised I was alive and thought "Gee, the diet's helping me to live longer already" !


.....actually, dieting won't make you live longer, it just seems like it...


and thanks to all the encouragement. The "all bets are off" theme seems to be a common one, so therefore I feel no remorse at ordering a case of MRE Bacon. :cheers:

[€uroMeinke]

2) No alcohol or dessert except on truly special occasions.



every day is a special occasion

[sleepyjeff]

Lash PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be careful dieting with your diabetes! Do the little six meal a day thing limited to one carb serving per meal and you will lose weight safely!



That's the one I used right after I was diagnosed back in 2006. Lost about 50 pounds on it in 14 months(gained about 10 back since then, but that still leaves me almost 40 pounds down:)

[BarTopDancer]

WW does do an online program now.

TheDailyPlate (http://www.thedailyplate.com/) is free and very easy to use too.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

1) No late night eating.

I find it very important to keep my sugar levels properly balanced. Eating several small meals spread throughout the day is very important to me, so, yes, I eat at night and early in the morning and all throughout the day. But I only eat about 1300-1400 calories total.

2) No alcohol or dessert except on truly special occasions.

Actually, no. Anything that I cut out completely or significantly (that goes for the carbs in #4) simply causes me to want to eat it more. The key is moderation. I'm not only eating dessert on holidays. I'm just eating a small serving when I really feel like it, which is maybe once every other week.

3) At minimum, daily walks. With the dog or, perhaps, through Ikea.

I prefer swimming. I do it every morning unless there's, say, a major event that takes up my time (and expends a similar amount of energy or more than the swimming would.)

4) Carbs limited to one whole grain slice of bread with each meal. Dip a little olive oil or balsamic if you need to.

Not only does this throw off my body/hunger as in #2, this isn't healthy at all. Not only because muscles really need carbs to function, but also because vegetables and fruit are carbs. And they make up the majority of my diet.

5) Not too much cheese.

Not too little cheese, either. But a little goes a long way. And I tend to choose only the good stuff that I really like, as opposed to soothing a desire with crap I don't. This tends to help me in all ways lately, not just food.

I've lost 20 pounds since April. It's primarily the swimming that helps me (I plateaued while I wasn't swimming during September and October.) But secondarily, it's making food-related changes that are sustainable, because this is a many-years process (forever, actually) and I know what works for me and what doesn't.

So, LB, just try to learn what works for you, what you can sustain for the long term. And I promise you, my ass and Tom's ass combined didn't break Dumbo on Sunday. And I alone am heavier than you currently are.

[Not Afraid]

I'll join you in this, LB. I've lost a bunch, but got too busy to eat right and gained a bit back. I'm NOT buying new clothes until I'm 20 pounds lighter. My clothes right now are all too big and it's getting irritating. If that's not motivation for me, what is? ;)

WW has an excellent program - probably the best health-wise and easiest to maintain when you're no longer dieting because they use real food. However, for me, it's all bout portion control and NO fast food.

[innerSpaceman]

I want to lose the inch-around-the-middle I added over the holiday (Halloween season) and another bonus inch after that.

But I actually want to gain about 10 pounds.



Wrong thread, huh?

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Not really. My muscle mass has increased as my fat mass decreases.

[Not Afraid]

Losing inches and losing weight seem to be two separate things - especially if you're over 30.

Maybe we can all just go in for group middle section liposuction. ;) (Anything to avoid sit-ups.)

A funny muscle story....I walk quite a bit most days (3-5 miles total, not continuous). It is my primary source of daily exercise. I'm usually holding several leashes while I'm walking, so I get a bit of an upper body workout as well. However, I'm right handed.

The other day I was trying on clothes and noticed that the saggy upper part of my arm doesn't exist on the right, however, the left is still in full swing.

I've started to hold the leashes in the left hand as well.

[Kevy Baby]

I figured out to instantly lose 10 pounds of unused weight: chop off my head

[Moonliner]

I figured out to instantly lose 10 pounds of unused weight: chop off my head

Well yeah, but then you would no longer be able to go to the bathroom.

[innerSpaceman]

Maybe we can all just go in for group middle section liposuction. ;) (Anything to avoid sit-ups.)

I just started back in with my morning sit-up regimen of 175 crunches in 7 styles.

That usually does it for my mid-section. But I'm also going to have to cut out some admittedly yummy foods if I want the abs these crunches create to be visible.

And I need some kind of fun aerobic workout. Ironically, similar to NA's situation, the dog was my major source of outdoor exercise. His run was half for him and half for me. But the poor pooch can barely walk anymore. And I'm screwed, because I'm not the sit-on-a-machine for 30 minutes type.

[sleepyjeff]

I figured out to instantly lose 10 pounds of unused weight: chop off my head

Please don't....cause you know, someone might trip over it and hurt themselves.

It's really just a matter of safety;)

[Strangler Lewis]

I find it very important to keep my sugar levels properly balanced. Eating several small meals spread throughout the day is very important to me, so, yes, I eat at night and early in the morning and all throughout the day. But I only eat about 1300-1400 calories total.



Actually, no. Anything that I cut out completely or significantly (that goes for the carbs in #4) simply causes me to want to eat it more. The key is moderation. I'm not only eating dessert on holidays. I'm just eating a small serving when I really feel like it, which is maybe once every other week.



I prefer swimming. I do it every morning unless there's, say, a major event that takes up my time (and expends a similar amount of energy or more than the swimming would.)



Not only does this throw off my body/hunger as in #2, this isn't healthy at all. Not only because muscles really need carbs to function, but also because vegetables and fruit are carbs. And they make up the majority of my diet.



Not too little cheese, either. But a little goes a long way. And I tend to choose only the good stuff that I really like, as opposed to soothing a desire with crap I don't. This tends to help me in all ways lately, not just food.

I've lost 20 pounds since April. It's primarily the swimming that helps me (I plateaued while I wasn't swimming during September and October.) But secondarily, it's making food-related changes that are sustainable, because this is a many-years process (forever, actually) and I know what works for me and what doesn't.

So, LB, just try to learn what works for you, what you can sustain for the long term. And I promise you, my ass and Tom's ass combined didn't break Dumbo on Sunday. And I alone am heavier than you currently are.

We basically agree. Special occasions arise for me about every other week. But I've given up things like drinking while I cook, grabbing a piece of cake at some kid's birthday party, etc.

By carbs I meant sugar, starch, grains and the like. Veggies are important. But as to the former, where once I would walk into a Starbucks and feel a visceral need to have something from the pastry case with my coffee, now it all looks like cardboard to me and I'm not drawn to it.

I agree that a little cheese is a good thing. More than a little sets me back just like chocolate.

If eating a little at night prevents eating a lot at some point, that's great. For me, I knock the weight off best when I don't eat after dinner and walk the dog or do some other exercise in the evening after dinner.

[~MS~]

Hubby 'cheats' if he wants an extra carb or two he'll do an extra 30 minutes of excercise to 'earn' it ...but the educator made a great point, it's not about feeling full when you eat, it's about never feeling hungry so you never over eat. Treats on special occassions are necessary to keep from binge attacks...so far he is on week 3 and he's lost a few pounds and his sugars have never been better since he left the ICU the last time.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

If eating a little at night prevents eating a lot at some point, that's great.

The constant-little-by-day staves off hunger. But the nighttime eating is more of a balanced blood sugar thing, really... a staving-off-diabetes thing. Not that my blood sugar is out of whack, but my parents both have adult-onset and I wish to prevent it.

[~MS~]

Another fact we got....not eating doesn't necessarily help the blood sugar issue, as bizzarre as it sounds, not eating can be worse for the blood sugars since the liver will produce sugars even if you haven't taken in any calories or carbs. Keeping your blood sugars balanced is the best defense against the onset of adult diabetes for sure. A great snack if you like peanut butter is 2 tbs peanut butter and celery sticks....a simple carb count of 1 serving and negative calories in the celery.

[LSPoorEeyorick]

Exactly, MS, that's what I was staying. I eat at nighttime to balance my blood sugar.

[~MS~]

Based on what we learned if you continue your eating like you are then you reduce your potential to develop adult diabetes by over 50 percent.

[Strangler Lewis]

I agree that a little cheese is a good thing. More than a little sets me back just like chocolate.


And I put out too much cheese last night. Next time my mom visits, I'm going to cut the cheese.

[Kevy Baby]

Next time my mom visits, I'm going to cut the cheese.If you do it in the same room, it may prevent future visits.

[lashbear]

I prefer my cheese pre-cut.

[lashbear]

283.8

...after 4 days. Yay.

[lizziebith]

Excellent! :)

I'll be joining you Sunday...

[Not Afraid]

Apparently, I'm not joining you until Monday. But, the filet mignon was good.

[lindyhop]

I lost about 8 pounds earlier this year and stopped. I'd like to lose at least 8 more. I've recently managed to cut out some unhealthy snacking at work (again). I'm also concentrating more on watching my fat intake since I found out I have high cholesterol. I'll find out in a couple of weeks I've made any progress toward bringing the numbers down.

I'm really at the edge of what I'm willing to cut out of my diet so more exercise is the next step. I belong to a gym but they changed out all my favorite weight machines earlier this year and ever since then I've gone to the gym but I don't do much. I'm currently working with a personal trainer but only for eight sessions over four weeks. I can't afford more and I really want my "quiet time" back. I didn't realize how much I enjoy working out in my own little private iPod bubble. But I'm learning the kind of workout I should be doing.

This discussion is going on as we move into the "eating season" so how does everyone cope with that? Or do you just give in and hope to lose weight in January? And what about food at work? I work with a group of people who will bring in food (and lots of it) for any occasion whatsoever. This time of year it's worse than ever.

[wendybeth]

It seems to me that the majority of holiday foodstuffs are sugary baked goods, which I really don't care for. Aside from the three big meals (Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years) I don't think my eating habits are impacted that much. I just have to watch the carbs and portion sizes, and be grateful I don't have a sweet tooth.

[lashbear]

I have to say, that as a non-USA'un the practice of putting sugar and marshmallows on vegetables is strange to us. (maybe honey-glazed carrots, but that's about it.)

[~MS~]

honey glazed carrots and candied yams (no marshmellow topping tho) are the only two sugary veggies I ever make and those only get made on Thanksgiving, Yule or Christmas (whichever we decide is getting the big meal vs the finger food meal). Hubbys diabetes is to 'out of control' still for me to be so cruel as to even make any deserts. I do have a sweet tooth but if I don't make it or buy it I can manage to avoid the worst of the seasons impulse eating.

[Not Afraid]

This discussion is going on as we move into the "eating season" so how does everyone cope with that? Or do you just give in and hope to lose weight in January? And what about food at work? I work with a group of people who will bring in food (and lots of it) for any occasion whatsoever. This time of year it's worse than ever.

I just work through the entire eating season. No (more) temptation than usual. ;)

[lindyhop]

I just work through the entire eating season. No (more) temptation than usual. ;)

But what if all the temptation is at work? I try to be careful about what I eat during the week so I can splurge a bit on weekends or social occasions. I can stay away from the food at work but I have to be a social outcast to do it. I just want to be healthy and I don't want to make a fuss about it.

On the other hand there are indulgences I won't give up. I love ice cream and it's my reward after a day of eating sensibly. My personal trainer (I believe she trained with the Marquis de Sade) suggested giving up the ice cream and I said absolutely not. I've switched to light ice cream to reduce some of the fat content and I'm working on portion control but give it up entirely? No way.

[alphabassettgrrl]

I try to watch the portion sizes. Sometimes it even works. I don't have too much of a draw to cookies, cakes, and the like, so that helps. I'm going to try to get more exercise.

[lashbear]

Sunday Night Weekly Weigh-In
Starting weight = 129.1 Kg (284.6 Lb)
Starting waist = 129.5 cm (51")

New Weight = 128.3 Kg (283 #)
New Waist = 127 cm (50")

First weeks loss:
Weight: 0.8 Kg (1.6 #)
Waist: 2.5 cm (1")

....and I have to admit, that's with a naughty weekend of naughty food at Forster - Roast Chicken & Chocolate & everything !!


...Oh, and Lindyhop, we get a Fatfree no added Sugar icecream that's too dreamy for words - and it's diabetic friendly. Ice-cream is my friend. :blush:

[CoasterMatt]

Hey lash - you're actually closing in on being able to ride Xcelerator at Knott's - keep up the great work!

[alphabassettgrrl]

Good job bear!

[lashbear]

Xcelerator is my goal - they had to staple me in last time, and I want to ride in comfort.....

[CoasterMatt]

Xcelerator is my goal - they had to staple me in last time, and I want to ride in comfort.....

We'll be there to ride with you, buddy :D

[lindyhop]

Ice-cream is my friend. :blush:

Mmm...ice cream...it's what's for dinner!

[Princess Dala]

congratulations on your hard work! weight management is a difficult beast to break.

[CoasterMatt]

Here's a lil more "inspiration" for ya Lashbear -
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/pantsonfire/images/XceleratorTop2.jpg
I took this pic yesterday, and I intend to get one with you in the front car :)