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Eliza Hodgkins 1812 04-08-2010 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 319711)
Based on Eloise's reaction, it's looking more and more like this is some sort of virtual reality experiment. Matrix/holodeck kinda thing. In that context I suppose that the MIB/Jacob dynamic might represent the suspension of disbelief necessary to keep the illusion. That, like the Matrix, for the VR environment to remain stable and convincing, the participants need to have free will, which carries the risk of destroying the whole experiment. And what's left undetermined is, would blowing the experiment open be a good thing or a bad thing. Perhaps the VR world is an alternate to some unpleasant reality and it's all for their own good. Or perhaps it's a punishment of some sort.

Excited and interested in this theory, and I suppose I won't even be mildly disappointed if this is all a much better way of handling that kind of story than the film "eXistenZ".

Also, I should probably read "The Third Policeman" before this show ends. I've been meaning to do that but keep getting sidetracked by other books.

Ghoulish Delight 04-08-2010 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812 (Post 319803)
Excited and interested in this theory, and I suppose I won't even be mildly disappointed if this is all a much better way of handling that kind of story than the film "eXistenZ".

That movie wanted so badly to be good. It gave it a good shot, but never quite overcame its cheapness/cheesiness.

Ghoulish Delight 04-08-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 319800)
Well, I just watched the ep again and have to say ... I would never have seen Brad if I didn't know right where to look for him. Let's just say, I hope that episode 13 footage he's in hits the air instead of the floor.

We had the benefit of seeing Steph's tweeted hint ("Nice gown"). I wouldn't have spotted him (and didn't on the first pass) if I weren't looking, and having forgotten exactly what Steph tweeted ("dress"? "gown"? "robe"?) I wasn't looking. But then Charlie said that line about his "dressing gown" and it clicked, "Ooooh, gown!" and I went back and scrutinized the background of every hospital scene. No problem finding him them. :snap:

Stan4dSteph 04-08-2010 09:27 AM

Happy to help! :) I remembered that Brad had said he was a patient in one of his scenes, so I just kept an eye on the background actors in those hospital scenes. It also helped to have the DVR that I could go back and double check.

Cadaverous Pallor 04-08-2010 09:44 AM

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It's a four-letter word. It's not spoilery. And according to Damon Lindelof himself, it is what Lost "always has been…always will be."

That word is...

Love.
:rolleyes: Grody!

I'm sorry, but when a plane crashes on a mysterious island involving a smoke monster, a button that saves the world every 108 minutes, and time travel escapades, the predominant story is not about Love.

Betty 04-08-2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 319817)
:rolleyes: Grody!

I'm sorry, but when a plane crashes on a mysterious island involving a smoke monster, a button that saves the world every 108 minutes, and time travel escapades, the predominant story is not about Love.

I agree. That's nearly as bad as it all being a dream.

Stan4dSteph 04-08-2010 10:52 AM

Love is a pretty all encompassing topic, and I actually like that idea. How is love "grody?" Would it be better if it were all about death and hate?

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 04-08-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 319817)
:rolleyes: Grody!

I'm sorry, but when a plane crashes on a mysterious island involving a smoke monster, a button that saves the world every 108 minutes, and time travel escapades, the predominant story is not about Love.

My hope is that his statement is very general, and that he's saying the show is really about the relationships between people, and the love that exists within those relationships. Regardless of what the Island is, regardless of the story, you're supposed to care about and relate to the people. And I do think, in general, Lost has done a very good job of that. It gets muddied when they try to introduce too many characters in a season, especially towards the end, because that's time taken away form the people you're invested in. Deadwood suffered a lot in its 3rd season because it focused way too much on story lines that involved new characters no one cared about.

That the article focused so much on romantic love was concerning and is, yeah, grody. :) And apparently Jacob didn't want any gay people on his island. So, again, I call him a dick. Heh.

innerSpaceman 04-08-2010 11:50 AM

That's cause Jacob's deep in the everlasting closet. I should know. He's my husband in a future life that takes place in what you would call the 1700's. ;)


Actually, they haven't added a bunch of new characters this season, and that was wise. Two or three of note, and one of those is dead already.

Oddly, even though most of them have even been given their own episode, I think the effect of this season has been to push the original Losties way into the background. They don't seem to be involved with the plot, and despite cameos in other episodes - seem to have a decidedly passive role in the direction the story seems to be going --- other than to simply "be" candidates-in-waiting.


I note that the yowza episodes have been about Ben Linus, and Richard, and now Desmond. Sayid's and Jack's weren't bad ... but Sawyer's was meh, and Kate's reportedly SO bad that I haven't even bothered watching it. Jin and Sun's was kinda kool. Has Hurley had his yet?

But the "plot" of the season seems all about everyone BUT the originals. I'm kinda forgetting about them, and I wonder if that's gonna be troublesome for a big finale?


Whatever. The season is finally getting good ... and maybe, like others before it, the plodding start will come to make sense in the overall scheme.



Too bad this is the last season. I've a feeling Dr. Brad might have played a bigger role in the next.



(Oh, and EH1812, those pointless new characters in Deadwood's 3rd season were supposed to play big roles in the 4th that never happened. I think it's wise to add new characters in all but the final season. Unlike Lost, most series don't know when that's going to be.)

Gemini Cricket 04-08-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 319770)
More importantly it seems you got a clear view of the back of the Hobbit guy's hospital gown.

Yep. White boxer briefs underneath. P.S. Merry the Hobbit is really, really skinny in person. I noticed the same thing about the "Friends" cast when I saw them in person eons ago...


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