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Ghoulish Delight 04-23-2010 06:59 AM

First, props to Sandra. It didn't work out thanks to the dumb she was dealing with, but she played it brilliantly, doing just enough to plant the seed without casting suspicion on herself.

Secondly...SHUT UP AMANDA! You are an atrocious liar.

As for Parvati, her only safe plays were either just playing one idol herself and chance a tie between JT and whomever the heroes ended up voting for, or do what she did. If she played the idol herself the Heroes would have been going around acting smug at their little ruse and, while she has no great loyalty to Jerri or Sandra, they are part of her existing alliance and in this game it's always safer to keep an existing alliance going as long as possible. By instead doing what she did, even with giving up both idols, she gains a lot more power. She caused the outcome of that vote, rather than the Heroes.


But now she's got to act fast because Russell will no longer trust her. She's got Danielle who will obviously do anything P tells her. Sandra will vote for Russell in a blink, and probably Jerri too. Though from the looks of the preview, Sandra might beat her to it. Parvati would probably have wanted to wait for one more vote so that if she does get Russell off, the villains would still be up 4-3. But Sandra would be fine with actually flipping.

Cadaverous Pallor 04-23-2010 09:09 AM

Finally, JT gets what he has earned. F'n moron. I knew he was sexist from the moment he thought up the all-girl alliance. For him to say "never trust women" at the end of this episode was unbelievable. Number one, you are the one who screwed yourself over by giving Russell the idol for no reason other than your own mind games, and two, if you want to blame someone other than yourself, blame Russell for being a liar! I'm not one to rant in a feminist fashion, but this was the most blatant sexism I've seen on display in a long time.

All the Heroes are morons. Who's left to root for? Sandra, or Parvati perhaps, as she's more likable as a hopeful foil for Russell.

Ghoulish Delight 04-23-2010 09:16 AM

I'm definitely rooting for Parvati. She deserves it. If, for nothing else, not letting Russell know she had the idol. I believe that makes her the first female Survivor ever to not tell the guy she's aligned with about an idol. Bravo.

At this point, I also wouldn't mind seeing Sandra do well. Between how she and Candace handled the previous tribal council, and how she handled the merge, I've gained a lot of respect for her.

Moonliner 04-23-2010 09:39 AM

Russell gave Parv his idol. So he believed she was the target of the vote.

Parv bet her life she was not the target, and correctly surmised it would be either Sandra or Jerri.

Parv outplayed Russell every which way from Sunday and now he knows it. I'll be looking forward to seeing if that blinds him to everything else or if he can adapt and go with it for now.

Ghoulish Delight 04-23-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 321346)

Parv bet her life she was not the target, and correctly surmised it would be either Sandra or Jerri.

If by "correctly surmised" you mean "was all but explicitly told by Amanda's horrible horrible attempts at being clever." Not to take the victory away from Parvati, she acted on the knowledge perfectly, set herself up to do so by handling the idol she found perfectly, and lord knows there are people dumb enough to have not seen through Amanda, but it was definitely an advantage to have that information handed to her on a silver platter like that.

Jerri, you remain dumb.

scaeagles 04-23-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 321338)
All the Heroes are morons. Who's left to root for? Sandra, or Parvati perhaps, as she's more likable as a hopeful foil for Russell.


I don't really regard Rupert as a moron. I am pulling for him. He was a little too eager to go with JT's plot, but at least he listened to Sandra and knew it was coming.

Ghoulish Delight 04-23-2010 09:55 AM

What's bugging me about Rupert is his condescending attitude when he doesn't get his way. He's bought way too much into the "heroes and villains" crap and is acting like there are moral imperatives on the line.

Though I did like his line about people who swear on their wife and children. Historically, any deal that's based on such a "swear" has gone wrong on Survivor. Either because the person who swore didn't mean it and they took advantage of the person they swore to, or if they did mean it, the person to whom they swore just took advantage of their misplaced loyalty. Either way, it boils down to the fact that Survivor just ain't worthy swearing on the life of your family, so anyone who does is either lying, or has seriously misplaced their priorities and isn't someone you want to be committed to.

Cadaverous Pallor 04-23-2010 10:04 AM

Rupert has gotten full of himself. Too many viewer's favorite votes and all-star appearances. It especially sucks because he doesn't have much to back it up with anymore.

scaeagles 04-23-2010 10:14 AM

I think almost by default anyone invited back gets full of themselves.

Has there been anyone on this season that isn't?

Moonliner 04-23-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 321349)
If by "correctly surmised" you mean "was all but explicitly told by Amanda's horrible horrible attempts at being clever." Not to take the victory away from Parvati, she acted on the knowledge perfectly, set herself up to do so by handling the idol she found perfectly, and lord knows there are people dumb enough to have not seen through Amanda, but it was definitely an advantage to have that information handed to her on a silver platter like that.

Jerri, you remain dumb.

I was looking at it from Russell's point of view, not being privy to Amanda's blabbering. Assuming he thought the vote would go against Parvati the way it all went down has to be freaking out Mr. I'm in control. It was a serious blind side to him.


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