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BarTopDancer 01-29-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog (Post 188109)
I didn't say "if you didn't like the movie you are a stupid person", because that would be a ridiculous thing for me to say. Sorry if that was the way you took it.

I read what you said as "if you needed/wanted to know more that was given to you, you were a stupid movie watcher for not appreciating the ambiguity of the movie".

I liked the movie. I won't buy it because I don't think I could watch it again. But I liked it. I want to know more. What happened to Lily's helicopter? What is the monster and what are the lice that came off of it? (they had one in containment). Where did it come from? How did the military obtain in possession of the tape (did the monster die? did it go somewhere else?)?. I didn't like the ambiguity of it. But that doesn't mean I didn't like the movie and it doesn't make me a less sophisticated movie viewer than you.

Chernabog 01-29-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 188112)
I liked the movie. I won't buy it because I don't think I could watch it again. But I liked it. I want to know more. What happened to Lily's helicopter? What is the monster and what are the lice that came off of it? (they had one in containment). Where did it come from? How did the military obtain in possession of the tape (did the monster die? did it go somewhere else?)?. I didn't like the ambiguity of it. But that doesn't mean I didn't like the movie and it doesn't make me a less sophisticated movie viewer than you.

I wanted to know all of those things too. Honestly BTD I think we're having a communication error here.

What I was initially responding to were the people who disliked/were angry at/recommended against seeing the movie for the sole reason that it didn't spell all of that out. Maybe the movie could have included a little more information, but it would have killed the movie to have an conventional explanation.

Prudence 01-29-2008 07:12 PM

Dammit - now I'm wishing someone would do a really GOOD film version of a Lovecraft story.

Chernabog 01-29-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Prudence (Post 188129)
Dammit - now I'm wishing someone would do a really GOOD film version of a Lovecraft story.

I kinda liked John Carpenter's "In The Mouth of Madness", which borrows a number of different elements from Lovecraft short stories.

Also, I liked the film "Dagon", which was a semi-faithful film of the story "Shadow over Innsmouth" (and has one really super gross part).

"The Reanimator" was also a fun flick.

There's an excellent Lovecraft computer game called "Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth" which also takes many elements from "Shadow over Innsmouth", "Call of Cthulhu", "Dagon" and "The Shadow Out of Time".

If you have a Gamecube (or a Wii, as you can play Gamecube games on it) I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend getting a game called "Eternal Darkness:Sanity's Requiem" (try ebay or gamestop.com used games). It borrows a lot from Lovecraft as well, including from "The Rats in the Walls", "The Shadow out of Time" and other stories. It has a storyline revolving around dark beings just outside of our universe trying to break in, and even has a "sanity meter" when you see bad stuffins.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 01-29-2008 07:39 PM

I think "The Music of Erich Zann" would make a lovely short animation.

Hellboy makes good use of Lovecraft, both in the comic book and in the film.

innerSpaceman 01-31-2008 11:10 AM

Heheh, Matt Reeves is in preliminary talks with Paramount to direct a Cloverfield sequel (according to today's Variety).

Chernabog 01-31-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 188519)
Heheh, Matt Reeves is in preliminary talks with Paramount to direct a Cloverfield sequel (according to today's Variety).

Sounds cool to me!! I wonder if it'll be another "high concept" (i.e. OTHER people that were filming that night, I mean, we saw other people filming in the movie) or a conventional film. It'd be cool if it filled in the questions people had from the first movie.

I also was reading that the name Cloverfield came from the exit that JJ Abrams takes off the freeway to get to work :) Totally funny. (it was just the "code name" for the film, and wasn't initially intended to be the final title)

sleepyjeff 01-31-2008 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chernabog (Post 188533)
Sounds cool to me!! I wonder if it'll be another "high concept" (i.e. OTHER people that were filming that night, I mean, we saw other people filming in the movie) or a conventional film.

I don't see how either concept would work. Part of the greatness of the movie was the "what the heck is going on" factor. I'll still go see the sequel but I fear another Blair Witch II.

BarTopDancer 01-31-2008 01:03 PM

I hope that the sequel answers questions. And I really hope it's not done in 1st person style. But if it isn't going to answer questions, and will be done in 1st person style, then I hope it's from the prospective of the other people (like Cherny said).

I'd really like to see from where they find the tape going forward. If the characters are still alive, it would be interesting to hear how they were rescued and if the monster was still alive.

Also want to know what was in the water at the final scene.

innerSpaceman 01-31-2008 01:55 PM

I want Rob to be alive... and then move to Los Angeles to get as far away from the monster and bad memories as possible ... only to discover that the quasi-radiation from the bomb dropped on Central Park has turned him gay ... and then he meets Me.



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Oh, and yeah Cloverfield was named for the street in Santa Monica, that's the offramp nearest to J.J.'s production offices, heheh.


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