If we're singing, I'm not going.

Since the rates are not too high, I think we would be better off with the extra site.

Who's going to stay at the extra site until the latecomers arrive then? The NFS confiscates all gear left in an unoccupied site after 24 hours.

Actually, I have a better idea - why don't you and GusGus switch to Goon's team, and then that evens the sites out more and resolves the issue of having an unoccupied site. :) (Be sure to make the change on the Wiki.)

Ken, my dad, and I can handle ourselves, and will just pay for our own site when we get there. It's just much easier than trying to split costs, coordinate who is bringing what gear, reserving what site, etc. Also, that means those who want to even out costs only have to worry about 4 sites still, thus making it cheaper or more "fair" for those who want to go that route. We'll still sign up to serve a meal as planned.

We'll see ya all at the campout. I'm done planning now. :)

Ok, I'm done letting off steam now.

KB, I'm certainly not casting you and GusGus away from the team - just frustrated at what seems to be a bigger mess than it even needs to be.

*breathe*

I didn't see your response at the time I wrote mine. *sigh*

I'll happily remove the three of us from the pot, since I did say it, and I'll honor what I said to avoid hurting your feelings.

See you all there. We'll just take whatever meal spot is left. I'm done.

Might I make a suggestion to all participants: No planning or discussion of planning for a few days, either on the board or off. All pending questions and issues are easily resolved and can be dealt with when we all have cooler heads.

There is nothing that needs to be taken care of today (or tomorrow) and certainly not with this level of contention.

T: I'll not mess with the status quo. K&S can team up with whoever they wish to. I had just expressed a willingness if they chose to follow your suggestion.

Kevy's right, none of this is worth getting our shorts in a knot over :)

There are still a few "maybes" so I'm sure things are going to shift around a bit anyway. No need to stress about anything yet.

If we can't discuss things we may not see precisely eye-to-eye on without calling it contention, we shouldn't be in the same forest together.

I don't see what's wrong with suggesting things, having those suggestions disagreed with, counter-points made, tangent issues raised, etc. ... all without calling it an argument, or making personal attitude assumptions about the people discussing stuff.


Speaking of discussing stuff, I wonder why my team decided on Saturday breakfast without discussing it with me, particularly since we saw each other day before yesterday and discussed potential meals.

So, I unilaterally moved it to Friday breakfast ... because the breakfast plan we discussed involved things best prepared earlier in the schedule.


There ... I'm talking about meals. It's happy pappy fun. FOOD! Yay!

There's nothing to discuss. We've got dates, a place, and a wiki to plan teams and meals. Beyond that, you're on your own to enjoy the experience however you'd like. I will share what I know about things to do in the area and you can plan to do these things or not and that doesn't need to be decided until we get there - or, at least I'm not deciding on that until I get there.