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scaeagles 08-28-2008 08:23 PM

I read the transcript of the speech rather than watching it. Pretty typical promises of a democrat candidate for President.

Alex 08-28-2008 08:25 PM

Bill Kristol thought it was a great speech and a powerful start to the official campaign.

I'm sure he'll have come to his senses by morning, but if it gave Kristol a woody you have to admit it must have been pretty well delivered.

scaeagles 08-28-2008 08:33 PM

I can't speak to the delivery. Undoubtedly it was brilliantly delivered. Obama gives great prepared speeches.

Alex 08-28-2008 08:42 PM

Well, you might want to care more about delivery because I think I can guarantee that very few people are going to be seeking the dispassion of reading it.

Moonliner 08-28-2008 08:51 PM

Somehow Obama managed to pull himself up without all these expensive programs he says we need.

So how about you cut all the fat out of the budget like you say and stop there. Stop collecting money you don't need and let the people keep it. That way they can rise or fall to the limits of their own ability.

scaeagles 08-28-2008 08:54 PM

Well, I care about the substance more than how it is said. I don't even watch republican speeches, preferring to read them.

I read some interesting analysis pre speech by Dick Morris. In 2000, Gore was down 7 when he gave an incredibly wonky dispassionate speech at the convention, and went up by 10 for a 17 point jump. Morris predicts the typical Obama speech will provide an emotional bump, which rarely lasts. Morris is a pretty smart political mind.

I find it interesting, though, that you, Alex, seem more concerned with the delivery than the substance.

Edited to add: Great point, Moonliner.

Gemini Cricket 08-28-2008 08:57 PM

I thought it was an amazing speech. Great delivery. He hit all the points that he has been challenged on by the McCain camp. Obama showed us that he's one tough cookie. Well done, methinks.
One of the best speeches I've ever seen.
:)

Bornieo: Fully Loaded 08-28-2008 09:07 PM

On MSNBC they're doing crowd shots outside the convention. I'm keeping an eye out for Nephy. heheh

Gemini Cricket 08-28-2008 09:07 PM

Here is the transcript of the speech.

Alex 08-28-2008 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 235846)
I find it interesting, though, that you, Alex, seem more concerned with the delivery than the substance.

Why should this be surprising. I disagree with several of the policy proposals he put forward.

Also, I don't see where I said at all that I'm concerned more with delivery than substance. I said you shouldn't remain ignorant of the delivery if you want to have a sense of the impact. I'm sure you're perfectly capable of actually watching the speech and then sniffing it is just old fashioned liberalism but then you'd also have a sense of how it played to everybody.

Rightly or wrongly, delivery has a huge impact on political success and ignoring it is misguided.


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