Yes, but if you call Mr. Kim "Slant-eyed", you can't really feign innocence when he is offended.

Wow, SM, I'm pretty flabbergasted by that. But ok, if you see "breeder" as simply a description, and not an attempt at to reducing people to animals, then good luck with that.

Of course, I love animals, so maybe the insult is lost on me. But in the English language, people procreate and animals breed. If you missed the obvious etymology of the term "breeder," consider yourself now educated. I'm surprised at your friends. But then again, I don't take much umbrage at being called a faggot.

Of my gay friends, I have never heard the use of the word "Breeder" without it being in a derogatory sense. That is why I avoid using it myself.

Sorry SM: just because you don't believe "breeder" to be derogatory doesn't make it so (or not so to be correct). It is a derogatory term.

It is a derogatory term that come with a load of unsaid meaning behind it.

Even with animals, I use the term "breeding bitch" to describe what Kimchi was in S. Korea before she became a pet and a princess, as in "she was USED as a breeding bitch".

SM - I believe you when you say you don't mean it insultingly.

But if someone is offended by it - what can you say? Just because you didn't mean to hurt someone's feelings (or however you want to say it) doesn't mean they don't feel bad.

To me, using the term "breeder" goes along with a "them vs. us" attitude. It's a dismissive term to call hetero people in reaction to the (high quantity of) terms that are dismissively directed towards homos.

You know, like when someone you barely know is yammering on and on about their kids, you might think to yourself "grrrrr... friggin breeders, I swear!"

Is the term entirely accurate now that so many gays are having kids? Obviously not... but it's really just reactionary byproduct of how the gays have historically been treated -- from the outside looking in. On the grand scale of things, it isn't usually meant to be a horrible slur.... just sort of dismissive.

That being said, I think that "breeder" is about as offensive as calling someone a "fag hag." It *could* be offensive depending on the context, but it isn't like we need to call it "the b-word" or something totally childish like that.

How many gays must God create before we accept that he wants them around? :snap: :snap: :snap:

Hahahah, I used "breeder" in a sentence in my el jay today. TeeHee.

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