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innerSpaceman 07-25-2007 02:30 PM

There are too many holes in J.K.'s mythology.

As for portraits, I think they can be brought up-to-date, and perhaps even grow as "people" by observing what they can from their frames, and interacting with live people (and even other portraits in their building) ... but I have a hard time reckoning that their essence isn't set when they are painted.

If Dumbledore were painted before his sister died, I don't think the portrait Dumbledore would be as psyche-damaged as the real Dumbledore, even if the portrait one learned of the circumstances.

Hey, and what happens if ... as with many famous people ... more than one portrait is painted, and at different stages of life? Under my theory, the portraits would each be very different "people."




And yeah, witches celebrating Christmas is just odd. But I think it's more a matter of them being Brits than being witchfolk.

Alex 07-25-2007 02:46 PM

What if, as is common, additional copies of a portrait are made by copying the first rather than the living person?


I don't know if it is more rigorous in the books, but this has been my approach to the magic in the movies. That the underlying truth of it is that it works in the way necessary for the moment in which it is used. An alternate version of G.I. Joe where whatever machine was needed to stop this week's villainy just happened to be invented the day before (and was already on store shelves).

Of course, to a degree it helps me in with the movies that when I see something that appears inconsistent I just say "that's probably explained in the books...another reason these movies are very good for non-readers in the audience."

FEJ 07-25-2007 04:08 PM

I thought it was weird that even Buckbeak "heard the call" and showed up for the final fight. To me that was a stretch.

innerSpaceman 07-25-2007 04:40 PM

They never did explain (did they?) what happened to Buckbeak after Grimmuald Place was abandoned by the Order. If he wasn't allowed to live in the wild while Sirius was alive, he could have been hanging around The Burrow for all we know. In which case, yeah, he would have known about the Hogwarts War, and come a'flyin'.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 07-25-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 152612)
I'm not expecting answers ... unless J.K. starts posting here. But I love the questions this brings up. Thanks, BTD, for the Voldie-Soul Cast-Off theory!

I assumed that the creepy Voldemort baby was a piece of Voldemort's soul, and that it was appropriately a creepy baby thing since Voldemort was reduced to being a creepy baby thing before Harry's blood and bone (in a way infected by that piece of Voldemort himself, since Harry was a Horcrux) restored him to his, uh, more manly status.

BarTopDancer 07-25-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 152612)
Ooooh, I love the mandrake-infant thing in King's Cross Limbo being the bit of Voldemort's soul now cast off from Harry. That makes much more sense and resonates far nicer than it simply being Volemort.

Although now I have to wonder what happened to Voldie while he, too, was unconsious. Did he go to a different Limbo? (A redder, hotter one?) Or was he simply blacked out?


I'm not expecting answers ... unless J.K. starts posting here. But I love the questions this brings up. Thanks, BTD, for the Voldie-Soul Cast-Off theory!

You're quite welcome. I think that Voldie died. Harry "faced death" head on and was given a choice. Voldie was convinced he was beyond being killed, therefore he died. Also, he split his soul so many times, and each of the 7 splits were killed he had no soul left to live.

Brigitte 07-25-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 152682)
They never did explain (did they?) what happened to Buckbeak after Grimmuald Place was abandoned by the Order. If he wasn't allowed to live in the wild while Sirius was alive, he could have been hanging around The Burrow for all we know. In which case, yeah, he would have known about the Hogwarts War, and come a'flyin'.

I thought Buckbeak was rechristened Witherwings and Harry gave him to Hagrid. He'd be living near Hogwarts then, also a good place to know about the war!

I could be wrong though, I'd have to look it up.

On mugglenet.com there's a bit about a live chat with Rowling on Monday. Here is a link to the Bloomsbury site about it.

Betty 07-25-2007 05:42 PM

I wonder if Snape ever gets his picture on the wall of the headmaster's office. Oh - I know the story had to end - but I just yearn for more.

CoasterMatt 07-25-2007 07:29 PM

IT'S FREAKIN' BOOKS! WONDERFUL PIECES OF FANTASY AND IMAGINATION! ENOUGH WITH THE DAMNED ANALYSIS!

Morrigoon 07-25-2007 07:37 PM

Is there a smiley yet for "if you didn't want to hear this, why did you click on this thread"?


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