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alphabassettgrrl 03-26-2013 02:47 PM

I'm hopeful, since the pro-8 side doesn't really have a case. But on the other side, the justices don't really want to legalize gay marriage...

Hoping, but not holding my breath.

Kevy Baby 03-26-2013 06:44 PM

It was reported that if the SCOTUS elects to not rule on the Prop 8 issue, that marriage between same sex persons would become legal in California - is this correct?

alphabassettgrrl 03-26-2013 07:29 PM

That should be correct, since the last ruling on Prop 8 was to overturn it.

Alex 03-27-2013 05:09 AM

DOMA down, minimal ruling on Prop 8 that knocks it down in California but has no precedent outside of the state.

innerSpaceman 03-27-2013 11:15 AM

It's unwise to read too much into the tea leaves of the justices' questions during oral argument - but I have to say the comments and queries (or is that queeries?) during the Prop 8 hearing made the Supreme Court look like a medieval institution and the justices seem as if they lived behind dusty cloistered walls.

So it looks as if they will try for a narrow ruling affecting only California - but since quite a few realize how ridiculous and untenable it would be to say something is unconstitutional in one state but not the others - it may very well be they will deny standing in the case and leave either the 9th Circuit decision or the district court decision in place. Either way, Prop 8 is dead in California - but it's looking very unlikely gay marriage bans will be ruled generally unconstitutional ... yet.

If the 9th circuit decision is left standing, that has valuable precedent that can be used in other cases. If just the district court decision is upheld, there's little future value of that broad and landmark decision.


DOMA, on the other hand, appears to be unquestionably and door nail dead, based again on the uncertain but certainly more crystal clear questions and concerns expressed at the hearing this morning. (The audio hasn't been released quite yet, as I write this, so I haven't heard with my own ears as of now.)

SzczerbiakManiac 04-15-2013 07:26 PM

How Sam got a copy of "Sophia the First" on DVD

innerSpaceman 04-16-2013 09:57 AM

Brilliant.

katiesue 04-16-2013 10:27 AM

A couple of weeks ago at Disneyland we saw a young man (maybe 5 or 4) dressed as a princess. Maddie said it made her happy to see it.

Cadaverous Pallor 04-16-2013 01:10 PM

Love those sorts of stories. :)

lashbear 04-23-2013 01:54 AM

I'm spending far too much time on Facebook. I just spent a minute looking for the "Like" button on Katiesue's post.... :rolleyes:


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