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Chernabog 05-29-2008 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 213914)
Ehhh... He's not that bad. Perhaps on the late shift, in a dark dark corner....

When desperation and that sixth vodka tonic sing sweet sweet nothings in your ear...

SzczerbiakManiac 05-30-2008 11:01 AM

I don't suppose I can get in on this action... :(

Gemini Cricket 06-11-2008 10:51 AM

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A study issued this week by UCLA's Williams Institute for Sexual Orientation and the Law projected that gay men and lesbians will spend $684 million on cakes, photographers and other services over the next three years unless voters reverse the high court's ruling in the fall.
The researchers found that about half of the state's more than 100,000 same-sex couples will get married during the next three years, and an additional 68,000 out-of-state couples will travel to California to exchange vows. The study estimated that over that period, gay weddings will generate $64 million in tax revenue for the state, $9 million in marriage-license fees for counties, and some 2,200 jobs.
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innerSpaceman 06-11-2008 10:54 AM

Hmmm, maybe I should stop looking for a gay marriage, and get into the gay marriage business.

I already perform ceremonies (though I can't charge for that), but maybe some kind of gay-marriage-centric event planning could bring into the fold many of the talents of various swankers ... and we could make a killing in a new field of economic opportunity stemming from the goodness of civil rights advances.


I love the potential.

NirvanaMan 06-11-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 216759)

And just think how much more revenue will be generated in divorces! It boggles the mind as to why anyone would oppose it, strictly from a practical perspective.

I on the other hand don't believe there should be state/federal recognition of the institution of marriage at all (Man/Woman included), but that is a whole other can of worms. If you are going to recognize this contract for what it is in the eyes of the law, a financial agreement between two parties, then how on earth could they ever discriminate and claim to hide behind the law, or worse, the will of the people. For one rare moment, I do applaud the CA Supreme Court and I did crack a smile upon hearing of their decision last month.

Gemini Cricket 06-11-2008 11:11 AM

I applaud the marriage ruling for the rights aspect. But without the Federal government getting on board, it's still kinda sh!tty.
I'm in the marriage camp for a couple of reasons.
I like the idea that someone says "That's it, you're the one and I'm going to let you and the world know." It puts my mind at ease somehow.
And I like the idea of a big celebration with all my fam and friends at a ceremony. I guess you could do it without the ceremony, but I've always wanted one for me. Not to mention the gifts...!

Yeah, the man of my dreams could just say that there's no one else, but a public display of commitment with gifts would be even better.
:)

Ghoulish Delight 06-11-2008 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 216770)
And I like the idea of a big celebration with all my fam and friends at a ceremony. I guess you could do it without the ceremony, but I've always wanted one for me. Not to mention the gifts...!

Yeah, the man of my dreams could just say that there's no one else, but a public display of commitment with gifts would be even better.
:)

But what does that have to do with law? I'd much prefer that the government, at any level, had nothing to do with marriage between anyone. You shouldn't have to sign a paper and pay for a license to have a big party. But since it's far too intertwined in our culture to separate it out now, then it definitely should be open to anyone and everyone.

Chernabog 06-11-2008 11:15 AM

Hey guys (and by guys I mean, iSm especially):

When I was at Pride on Sunday (marched with the attorneys, fun times), my friend Tom informed me of a group that he and some others have started re: the marriage vote, called "Love Honor Cherish" for the protection of marriage equality. They're starting up the website www.lovehonorcherish.org (its just a link to an email address for right now, they're working on it) ... AND THEY NEED VOLUNTEERS (unlike those other places that just want money).

He said they are doing meetings every Tuesday night on this (and they may also have Wednesday night meetings), all of which anyone here is welcome to attend. Should I start a new thread regarding this? If anyone wants to go to a meeting with me I'd be thrilled to do so.

Gemini Cricket 06-11-2008 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 216771)
But what does that have to do with law? I'd much prefer that the government, at any level, had nothing to do with marriage between anyone. But since it's far to intertwined in our culture to separate it out now, then it definitely should be open to anyone and everyone.

I guess on a personal level it has nothing to do with law. I agree that the gov't should keep out of it, but, you're right, it's in it.

I want the Federal Government to recognize my marriage. I want the country I'm in to acknowledge me and my husband the same way as every straight couple who has been married. I want to know that we're equal in the eyes of our gov't. Because right now, we're not.

Kevy Baby 06-11-2008 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 216770)
I applaud the marriage ruling for the rights aspect. But without the Federal government getting on board, it's still kinda sh!tty.

At first blush, I was kind of in the same camp. But then I realized that you can't change the world overnight: this is just one of many steps in the march. Within a few short years, it will be a nationwide (legal) acceptance and then within our lifetime, we will be wondering why there was ever such a fuss.

The masses are slow at changing, especially in mindset.


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