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wendybeth 10-21-2008 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 247415)
But is that allegation true?
(I'm not certain.)


Yes.

Last Refuge of a Scoundrel

For someone who is not a member, she has certainly been a presence at their conventions, etc.

Gemini Cricket 10-21-2008 04:20 PM

Posted by Rocketboom on YouTube:
Hatred at a Palin Rally

Morrigoon 10-21-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphabassettgrrl (Post 247400)
Didn't McCain support an Arizona measure against gay marriage? I thought I read something about that but I don't have references.

Damn. There goes my shred of grudging respect.

Gemini Cricket 10-21-2008 04:34 PM

Palin is proof of a human walking with a dinosaur.

:D


Thank you, folks! I'll be here all week. Enjoy the King Crab legs at the buffet!

wendybeth 10-21-2008 05:50 PM

Alaskan King crab legs?

wendybeth 10-21-2008 06:53 PM

Well, it appears that little Miss Fiscal Conservative has been billing the state for her kid's travel expenses and bringing them to events they were not invited to. She claims they were working.:rolleyes:

Palin's Family Values.

It is admirable that she wants her family with her, but I don't think the state hired her kids to work- aren't most of them underage?

MouseWife 10-21-2008 08:01 PM

From what I've seen she turns things to her favor.

Privledged.

Ghoulish Delight 10-22-2008 07:28 AM

Interesting conversation with my drawing instructor last night.

She's an artist so as you might expect she's got a pretty socially liberal attitude. But I've generally suspected she leans conservative in that, "I'm used to old white people running the country" sort of way. Statements like, "I've never been a fan of Dali, he's just too weird," are what have lead me to that conclusion.

As I was leaving my lesson last night she sighed and said, "I can't wait for this election to be over." I took the bait, gave a commiserating sigh and mumble back. Then she said, "You know, McCain keeps shooting himself in the foot," with a disappointed note in her voice. Not sure what I was about to get myself into I replied, "Well, I can't say I'm too upset about that."

Her response was, "Well, I'm voting for Obama." She went on to say that she thinks McCain's a great guy, and a hero, and that the problem with his campaign has been that he's been getting bad advice. BUT, he's been taking that advice, which has made her think he's just wouldn't be able to handle the Presidency. "We don't need another Bush," she said. And what a great point. Beyond anything, Bush's presidency has been characterized by surrounding himself with people who have encouraged him to do wrong things, and then taking that encouragement. That, more than anything else, is what links McCain to Bush after this candidacy, and that's why he's losing this election.

innerSpaceman 10-22-2008 07:50 AM

Wow, that's a great point. Too bad the candiates dare not point out the obvious, about themselves or their opponents, that how they handle the complex campaign for the presidency is likely the best indication of how they would handle something as complex as the presidency.


With Obama's relative lack of governing experience, many have pointed to the excellence of his campaign organization and operation as the better indications of his competence to lead the executive administration. That light is shone less brightly on McCain because of his extensive governing experience ... but it's too bad Obama won't point out how horrible McCain's campaign has been as an indication of what a feckless president he would be.

Ghoulish Delight 10-22-2008 08:29 AM

I wouldn't say it hasn't been a topic at all. Maybe not as much as it should be, but certainly during the whole, "The economy is sound"/"I'm suspending my campaign" fiasco, the spotlight on his decision making and judgment was shone brightly. He was already losing ground at that point, but his very obvious floundering and inability to handle the pressures of campaigning and dealing with a crisis at the same time were the final nails in the coffin for his chances.


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