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Gemini Cricket 10-23-2008 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 248110)
Wow. I don't mind Godwin being invoked when done so in a rational fashion. I think the comparison is a bit over the top.

So, how about this?

You're in an office working with a bunch of people at a company. You work there because you feel that what you're doing is important and that it's a just cause.
But what if every single person in that office felt that you and only you did not deserve to get married. In fact, the work you are doing with them in part is preventing you from getting married. There is no Mrs. scaeagles. Your family is not valid with these people.
Sitting in the lunch room, you happen to mention your wife. The friend you're having lunch with says, "Your wife?! No, you mean your friend because that's what we all believe around here." Never mind the 15 years you spent with her, she's just a friend... someone you pal around with.
You go to HR. "My wife needs to have her appendix taken out." You say.
HR says to you, "Uh, yeah. Your friend doesn't share benefits with you. Sorry. She'll have to pay for the whole thing out of pocket."

Now tell me, how long would you stay in that office? I mean, the cause still seems just to you but is the damage you're doing yourself (and your family) alright with you?

3894 10-23-2008 01:26 PM

Robo Rudy Guliani called me on the phone. My goodness, does that man need therapy.

sleepyjeff 10-23-2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 3894 (Post 248123)
Robo Rudy Guliani called me on the phone. My goodness, does that man need therapy.

So someone in the GOP still thinks Wisconsin is still in play...that's good news indeed.

Out here in the Willamette Valley of Oregon I've only had one call....from Obama America, way back in August....since the primaries.

Morrigoon 10-23-2008 01:42 PM

If ever there was a call for a voter initiative, it would be adding political campaigns to the do not call legislation.

scaeagles 10-23-2008 02:38 PM

GC, there is a difference between what you are talking about - benefits to domestic partners - and marriage.

Being not gay, I don't know, so this isn't meant to be rhetorical at all.....aren't domestic partner benefits pretty common now - probably the norm, at least among larger corporations?

Snowflake 10-23-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 248143)
GC, there is a difference between what you are talking about - benefits to domestic partners - and marriage.

Being not gay, I don't know, so this isn't meant to be rhetorical at all.....aren't domestic partner benefits pretty common now - probably the norm, at least among larger corporations?

Sceagles, larger corporations, I think some, yes. But on a state by state basis, not at all. Don't laugh, NC, to name one. I know because one of my dearest friends and her partner do not have a law on the books for benefits for domestic partners.

I need to check LAMBDA and GLAAD

scaeagles 10-23-2008 02:47 PM

I read LAMBDA as NAMBLA and was scared for a moment.

Gemini Cricket 10-23-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 248143)
GC, there is a difference between what you are talking about - benefits to domestic partners - and marriage.

Being not gay, I don't know, so this isn't meant to be rhetorical at all.....aren't domestic partner benefits pretty common now - probably the norm, at least among larger corporations?

You didn't answer my question. Would you stay at that company?

With the Federal Marriage Amendment Palin supports it all goes away.

When I signed up for a Domestic Partnership with Ralphie, the government taxed him for it. The benefits that I was allotted were considered additional income for Ralphie. It's not the same thing as a marriage recognized by the government, there are rights you and your wife enjoy that JWBear and his partner can't.

Gemini Cricket 10-23-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles (Post 248146)
I read LAMBDA as NAMBLA and was scared for a moment.

Not even remotely funny.

Snowflake 10-23-2008 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket (Post 248148)
Not even remotely funny.

Ooh, I had to look that up. Not funny, you're right GC.


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