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scaeagles 08-05-2008 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 230035)
I've said before, I have no issue with off shore drilling using existing platforms and infrastructure that are retrofitted and inspected to be safe at today's standards.

My issue is with creating new structures, new infrastructure in the ocean and drilling in AK.

Yeah, but to reduce seepage one must drill where pressure has built up. That may require new infrastructure.

Alex 08-05-2008 06:48 PM

scaeagles, I don't have the energy tonight to look into that claim. But every single quick source I find traces back to a single Op Ed in a newspaper that references a single press release from 1999 for the idea that drilling reduces seepage.

Tomorrow maybe I'll have the energy but since you brought it up would you have any interest into looking at whether this idea has any more support than the last Drudge link that took the conservative blogosphere by storm?

scaeagles 08-05-2008 06:55 PM

I actually read it in an article from the Heritage Foundation, if I recall.

scaeagles 08-05-2008 07:03 PM

OK - here's the only thing I can find - can't seem to find what I thought I'd read from the Heritage Foundation, but this is published on the UCSB website, which references and article from Journal of Geophysical Research - Oceans, but I can't seem to locate that article.

From UCSB

Since that is pretty much the only thing that I find referenced repeatedly, I assume that's what you were referring to, Alex?

Alex 08-05-2008 07:04 PM

Searching their site for seepage doesn't find any good candidate but if you remember where you read I'll read it.

It sounds a bit fantastical but it could be true. That said, it could also be true that it is better to have a lot of seepage where it happens naturally than a little spillage where it doesn't, what with ecosystems adapting and all.

Alex 08-05-2008 07:04 PM

Yes, that is the 1999 press release that every single article on the subject I can find points to. I haven't found anybody yet who claims to have read the research, just quoting the press release.

Alex 08-05-2008 07:16 PM

Here's the abstract for the original article in Geology. I don't feel like buying the article itself.

Anyway, as you can see from reading the abstract it merely hypothosizes that drilling is the cause of reduced seepage in that area (I've no idea if seepage in Santa Barbara Channel is remotely standard). That's a long way from "off shore drilling will likely reduce pollution in the ocean."

Maybe that has been supported over the last decade, but I can't find anybody pointing to such support and I'm certainly not doing a full citation search tonight.

Also, it is worth pointing out that the press release states that most of the seepage is natural gas which is different than what would be introduced into the water if there were a pipeline spill.

Alex 08-05-2008 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser (Post 230031)
Any thoughts on this potential compromise, as put forth by the "gang of ten"?


Uh oh. I'm scared now, isn't this proposal from the Gang of Ten exactly what Paris Hilton advocates here? Maybe we should elect her.

scaeagles 08-05-2008 07:32 PM

I thought in looking at statistics for oil seepage, oil was specifically done separately - not in terms of seepage, but oil seepage (in terms of 67% of ocean oil is from seepage, 1% is from drilling, etc).

alphabassettgrrl 08-05-2008 08:52 PM

Seepage is normal off our coast. I've seen it on the shore. The difference is the seeped stuff seems to be a bit more solid, and doesn't coat (and kill) birds and other sea life like spilled oil does.

There's not that much, considering it's been seeping for a whole lot of years.


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