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flippyshark 10-25-2008 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyjeff (Post 248407)

Pure straw man. (For instance, the charge that Obama is a Socialist doesn't rankle because it's racist, but rather because it's inaccurate.)

Edited to add: Also, posted to the wrong thread. :p

Moonliner 10-25-2008 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma (Post 248391)
Oh god guys, it gets worse. Much worse. TPM Election Central is reporting the following:



Columnist blogger Andrew Sullivan pointed out the following quote from Fox news executive vice-president John Moody, who posted this yesterday before it was confirmed that it was a hoax:



Have you guys noticed that the rats are leaving the sinking ship this week? Oy vey.


I think holding a presidential candidate personally responsible for the actions of individual citizens might be a tad overzealous.

LSPoorEeyorick 10-25-2008 07:32 AM

True, but these people - Todd on the phone banks, the communication director in his position - are acting, and speaking, on his behalf. They certainly aren't him, but they are part of his campaign. I would say it doesn't look good to have anyone working on your campaign do what they did.

wendybeth 10-25-2008 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner (Post 248418)
I think holding a presidential candidate personally responsible for the actions of individual citizens might be a tad overzealous.

I agree- and that could be applied to the Acorn mess as well.

Cadaverous Pallor 10-25-2008 08:27 AM

Wow. I hope this woman is remembered for all time as the absolute proof that some people will do anything to prevent Obama from being elected this year - and that the scheme included a racist slant.

As for McCain's campaign jumping on the story - I really can't say that if the roles were reversed that Obama's camp wouldn't do the same. I hope not.

3894 10-25-2008 08:30 AM

It's getting maverickier.
 
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"She's lost confidence in most of the people on the plane," said a senior Republican who speaks to Palin, referring to her campaign jet. He said Palin had begun to "go rogue" in some of her public pronouncements and decisions.

"I think she'd like to go more rogue," he said.
Source

Emphasis on the icky. So now, according to McCain insiders, Palin is an uppity woman who doesn't know her place.

You couldn't make this stuff up. :snap:

JWBear 10-25-2008 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 248409)
Chalk another one up for John McCain's crack vetting team. Nothing slips by them.

Yeah... If this is an example of the level of competence we'll see from a McCain White House, we're f*cked if he wins.

sleepyjeff 10-25-2008 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flippyshark (Post 248417)
Pure straw man. (For instance, the charge that Obama is a Socialist doesn't rankle because it's racist, but rather because it's inaccurate.)

Edited to add: Also, posted to the wrong thread. :p


Thanks for at least reading it before dismissing it...I appreciate that very much:)

I think I did post this in the correct thread in that recent converstations have been accusing McCain's campaign of racism.....that, and when I dare to muddy the thread of hope I've been slammed so hard. To be quite frank, I am a little gun shy about posting anything in there anymore....feels too much like shouting in church.

CoasterMatt 10-25-2008 11:05 AM

Shouting in church is a lot of fun.

scaeagles 10-25-2008 11:11 AM

One time in church when I was 5 I raised my hand while the preacher was speaking....my mom kept trying to push it down, and finally the preacher saw and asked me what I wanted to know. I asked him "Are you about done yet?".

Not really shouting in church, but perhaps inappropriate.


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