Looks like the "midsize" campsites are the FCFS ones.

What if it is a White in a Creek's clothing?

Yeah, I think we need a clarification from KS. My take was "some group sites are specifically reservable and mid-size group sites are FCFS."

That is correct - the group sites for 20-40 people you need to reserve. And you reserve a specific group site A, B, C or D (the ranger thought D was the preferred one).

The Mid-Size sites are FCFS. I just threw the mid-size in there as they hadn't been in the discussion before and the ranger suggested them as an alternative.

I'm confused, but I got up early.

Having this many people with no reservations makes me nervous - more so in Yosemite than in KC. KC has many campgrounds in the Valley to choose from. Yosemite has less. I have chanced WW before and gotten a spot in August, but 4 spots, together? Not sure about this.

Oh, it's a gamble alright. I don't expect too many votes for that option, but it's my preference anyway.

The way I see it ... the gamble is not going away. And each and every year brings more crowding, not less, to Yosemite. Oh sure, we could go a little earlier in the Springtime ... but not much. Late May is perhaps the earliest.

And so what if we delay Yosemite Swank Camp for a year, or two or four? Same boat then. Maybe worse. Maybe late May two years from now is just as crowded as late June this year.


Also ... what if this morning a miracle happened and two of us were able to get reservations? Do you think they would have been 4 adjacent campsites?




I'm just sayin'




Anyway, King's Canyon is lovely. I would love to camp there.



But what about next year? Are we really going to venture to the Tetons, and start swank-camping in places that take multiple days to even get to? Or are we going to be facing the Yosemite dilemma sooner or later?



So, i will go against the grain, with the highest risk being most attractive to me, and the lowest risk the least.

White Wolf (the better to eat you with), followed by Sheep Creek (the better to be shorn), followed by Group Camp D (are we all branded on the ass at that one??)

The only weekend in June we can't make it is the 21st/22nd. We're open on the earlier weekends if that's what's available. :)

May I just point out that, d'uh, if we go somewhere without reservations, we don't need to have the trip be five months from now. We could non-ressie camp in March if we wanted.







by which i mean to suggest that White Wolf might be as uncrowded in mid-May as Sheep Creek is in late June.

I say we plan for Yosemite in May. It's the best time of year in the Valley anyways and, with some advance, we could pull it off. The Cruise got in the way of may this year.

Y'all have fun! :)