You just want to see my boobs and try to get another shot at undoing my bra :p

Well that's a given
I've accepted the fact that this is a long lost (on me) talent.

iSm: I'm just trying not to be on a 2-person team because of the financial burden. (Well, and the site-snagging. But I've no doubt of your site-snagging skills ;))

Splitting the cost of a site plus the cost of the meal between only two people is much more expensive than splitting between 4 or 5 people, and neither Sohrshah nor I are all that well off financially, so I'd much rather be part of a larger team, sharing the costs more ways. The extra $50 each of being a 2-person team may not sound like much to some, but to us it's a lot.

If the meal thing is a concern, why don't we as a 5-person team pull off the weenie roast plus breakfast the next day. There are a lot of economies of scale that we could take advantage of, such as buying the gourmet sausages in bulk, and using additional ones as part of breakfast the next day, not to mention shared kitchen resources like stoves and pots & pans. We have a lot to offer as teammates, between her mad cooking skillz, my stove, pots & pans, a table, etc. It'd be kind of like your group kitchen concept, except just within our site for 2 meals.

I'm guessing 3 tents to a site is not a problem since 2 other teams will probably be doing it (if I'm guesstimating that right)

I'm sorry that some think this is hyper planning, but to me, sorting out the cost is a big deal that I don't want to leave till the last minute when there are no options left to solve the problem with.

It keeps getting said, so hopefully it sinks in soon:


There are many people sitting on the fence and not everyone (myself included) have settled when exactly they are heading up. Let this rest a while and we can address it when the date gets closer.

Sheesh.

I agree with Kevy. I understand budget concerns, but there is still a lot of leeway in who's going and when. General plans and ideas are great but I don't think it's possible to firm things down at this point. Situation fluid.

I like ISM's Wednesday night Fresno plan. And hopefully schedule permitting I can possibly help out with that.

Hint- for the next three months- put the money is a safe place instead of buying a latte, ice cream, or any other small goodie.

In three months it will add up- :)

(wish I could join in)

I love this idea. What think you, fellow boyz Team Discovery Channelers?


But as for the site sharing. Ugh, I just don't want 3 tents on our site. As goes my package, so goes my tent (especially when my package is in that tent-ish mode, ya know). In other words, if you will recall, my tent is HUGE. We call it the Sydney Opera House.

Still ... I am personally in favor of splitting the campsite costs evenly among all participants ... regardless of how many tents to a site and how many nights each person stays.

I guess that's harder to do this time, since no campsite monies are required in advance. And people not staying the entire time might be glad to not be subsidizing those who are. But for lord's sake (and not to make light of anyone in financial straights - - there are several at least currently unemployed campers in the mix), the campsites are ultra cheap. Let's just add-up the costs and split it evenly!

If we have an odd number of tents, it's really not quite fair to force the last people to arrive to spend the most money for their tardiness (i.e., not have a campsite to share).

Same here, Nephy!

I have inputs that are still in my brain from last year's botched attempt to attend the camping trip, but since I'm not going, I'm not officially siding.

I really need to go camping this summer. Hey, maybe we could go together, Nephy. I suspect we don't live all that far apart anymore!

Whoa, okay guys, seriously, I'm discussing things in this thread because it's a discussion thread.

I'm not the one arguing or getting upset at anybody, in fact, I've tried on a couple of occasions to diffuse the vigor of arguments actually taking place. Why I am suddendly being told to "chill" is beyond me, since I am not arguing with anyone and merely attempting to solve some issues/questions in a calm and reasonable manner.

Frankly, if I don't at some point state that hey, I want to be on a bigger team, then who exactly is going to take the initiative to join up with us? And if I wait until the week before, when everyone else has already teamed up (oops, too late already!), you'll tell me I should have asked around earlier.

So I'm asking. I'm not yelling, I'm not snapping at other people, I'm not typing in huge letters or sending out bad mojo. I am merely stating the problem I'm hoping to solve, and trying to solve it with other people who are also interested in planning things out.

Consider this my apology to those who have apparently misinterpreted my tone.

Tents are about the easiest thing in the world to move. So isn't it easy enough to move them around as necessary to hold spaces and preserve individually desired private space?