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Ghoulish Delight 05-28-2008 10:27 AM
I know she said it, though I was paraphrasing, I don't recall the exact quote.

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 05-28-2008 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 213444)
I know she said it, though I was paraphrasing, I don't recall the exact quote.
This scene?
Elsa: I believe in the Grail, not the Swastika.
Indiana Jones: You stood up to be counted with the enemies of everything the Grail stands for. Who gives a damn what you believe?
Elsa: You do.

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Elsa: Don't look at me like that. We both wanted the Grail. I would have done anything to get it. You would have done the same.
Indiana Jones: I'm sorry you think so.

And the elder Jones later said this about her:
Professor Henry Jones: Elsa never really believed in the grail. She thought she'd found a prize.
Indiana Jones: And what did you find, Dad?
Professor Henry Jones: Me? Illumination.

mousepod 05-28-2008 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 213440)
:confused: I found a script and I thought maybe you were referring to the exchange at the book burning, but it's not there...I dont' remember her saying this.
Yeah... it was Donovan who said:
"Nazis?!-Is that the limit of your vision?! The Nazis want towrite themselves into the Graillegend and take on the world.Well, they're welcome. But I wantthe Grail itself. The cup thatgives everlasting life.Hitler can have the world, buthe can't take it with him. I'mgoing to be drinking my own healthwhen he's gone the way of theDodo."

Eliza Hodgkins 1812 05-28-2008 10:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mousepod (Post 213455)
Yeah... it was Donovan who said:
"Nazis?!-Is that the limit of your vision?! The Nazis want towrite themselves into the Graillegend and take on the world.Well, they're welcome. But I wantthe Grail itself. The cup thatgives everlasting life.Hitler can have the world, buthe can't take it with him. I'mgoing to be drinking my own healthwhen he's gone the way of theDodo."
I loved a lot of the dialog in that film and only recently read on Wiki that Tom Stoppard provided uncredited rewrites of the script.

Moonliner 05-28-2008 10:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by innerSpaceman (Post 213405)
What a let-down, then, that the power turned out to be you can live forever if you just stay inside this tiny room of a cave in the middle of nowhere.

Since that "rule" was never stated, I prefer to think that Indiana Jones cannot be hurt or killed except by extraordinary means, and so he can survive a nuclear flying refrigerator ride. But, er, since he crossed the seal ... he ages at an alarming rate. By the 70's, he will be a living skeleton.


They don't say how Professor Henry Sr. died, so I'll just imagine he was shot through the heart with a cannon ball at close range and thus could not survive even though equally immortal. Just to be sure, they cremated his remains.-
But it was stated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grail Knight
You have chosen wisely. But the
Grail cannot pass beyond the
Great Seal. That is the boundary
and the price of immortality.

Gemini Cricket 05-28-2008 10:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grail Knight
You have chosen wisely. But the
Grail cannot pass beyond the
Great Seal. That is the boundary
and the price of immortality.
That's clear enough for me.
That is the boundary of immortality. That is the price of immortality.

innerSpaceman 05-28-2008 10:52 AM
Ok, then how does Indy survive, without a scratch I might add, being nuclear-blast blown in a household refrigerator, with a crash landing of 7 bounces?


AHA! He can't! The Grail Knight was WRONG!!!

Morrigoon 05-28-2008 10:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ponine (Post 213410)
What I want to know, was there a REASON we saw the ark?
Couple theories on this:

a) Because it was cool

b) Because that whole warehouse scene was (per Sohrshah) a tribute to the matte painting that had been done for the first movie, which had over 30 seconds straight of screen time, and apparently this was something worth tributing - and the ark was being put away into that warehouse for that scene, so it was appropriate that we realize Indy was in the same warehouse.

I'm at least going with a :)

Ponine 05-28-2008 10:57 AM
I agree with both, truly.

Though I didnt know about B. It just seemed like it was so intentional there might have been a reason I missed.
Like I am sure there was something in the "cave of wonders" worth seeing.

innerSpaceman 05-28-2008 10:58 AM
Um, Hello. The Ark was not necessary to demonstate Indy was in the same warehouse. It was apparent from the first shot inside the building, and everyone recognized it with a happy gasp at every screening I saw.


Referencing the Ark is a new rule for each Indy film after Temple of Doom (there was an Ark reference in Last Crusade as well), to point out how infererior all the sequels are to Raiders of the Lost Ark.




It's the truth. :cool:


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