If he is gay and he's promoting anti-gay legislation... if that's not self-hate, I don't know what is. And I do know self-hate when I see it.

I am not going to argue your personal experience by any means.

Before even asking another question- what are you considering when you talk about "anti-gay" legislation?

Marriage quality, for one.

So if a gay person does not want gay marriage that makes them anti-gay and self hating?

So I wonder- it just seems like throwing people out who don't happen to get on board a certain issue. No individual thought, just a group think mentality that moves as one- otherwise is tossed as anti-gay or self hating?

He works closely with the Feds and knows the numerous benefits of a Federally sanctioned union. Yet works against it. I'd say it was self-hating. I also think that staying in the closet is lying to yourself and others. If you're willing to do that to keep your comfy job, then your priorities are off. I'm speaking for myself and how I think. It's like a black man being in the klan. Makes no sense.
If he were out and was anti-marriage it would be a different thing. Fine don't get married, don't work towards it, but avidly work against it? That's messed up, too.

ok- another question.

The idea is to have being gay not be a big deal- as in accepted, equal. Right?

So what is with the "outing" of so called gay republicans?

The message is- "being gay is bad- you're a party of bigots- so you should reject so and so"

which seems to go directly against the idea that it should be accepted.

Just seems like a plan that would bite someone in the end. Especially because it seems to rely on some sort of institutionalized hatred which frankly I don't see.

I'm not even going to bother linking to the individual links-

Drudge Report- Germany is going to prosecute Rumsfeld

My honest answer, offered with no defensiveness on my part, is, if a Gay person, closeted or not, supports the work of an organization working against Gay equality, that person should be exposed as a hypocrite.

"Being Gay is bad" is not the message. The message is, "Being a hypocrite is bad," and, "Being against civil rights is bad."

Thank you for giving another view of it.

The comments on Mehlman made me curious-

Biography

So much for no denial.