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Tom 08-29-2008 03:29 PM

I was just about to express total agreement with your response.

Tom 08-29-2008 03:30 PM

But I will say that I agree totally with your edited response. It was my feeling the last two times around.

LSPoorEeyorick 08-29-2008 03:45 PM

I don't regret the energy I put into the campaign. But I am bitterly disappointed in the people who voted for Bush, still to this day. If I am at all pessimistic, it is not doubt in Obama, or in any of you. It is doubt in the unnamed masses who watched the first four years of this administration and actually thought it merited a second four.

LSPoorEeyorick 08-29-2008 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 236142)
Maybe I'll feel differently in November if he does lose, but from where I stand now, I will be disappointed if he loses but I will not regret putting my energy into it.

I highly doubt CP would regret her spent energy either - but listening to her impassioned campaigning reminds me of my impassioned campaigning. For our country's sake, I want Obama to win. And for her sake - I do not want to watch her go through what I went through.

That said, I also agree that just because that the possibility of failure exists, it doesn't nullify the need for action. (Yet, here I sit, screenplay unfinished, active campaign for Obama not yet begun. Perhaps I'm just the weaker person.)

Gemini Cricket 08-29-2008 04:01 PM

Will there be an RNC thread, I wonder?

9/1-9/4

I'm surprised they didn't schedule the RNC to coincide with 9/11's anniversary.
:rolleyes:

Hawai'i's Governor, Linda Lingle(cheese) is speaking on 9/2. Can't staaaand her.

I'd be interested in hearing several speeches...

Gemini Cricket 08-29-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick (Post 236150)
(Yet, here I sit, screenplay unfinished, active campaign for Obama not yet begun. Perhaps I'm just the weaker person.)

Well, you do have a crazy schedule, m'dear. I'm amazed how you keep up with it.
:)

(Not saying that CP doesn't...)

Morrigoon 08-29-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick (Post 236149)
I don't regret the energy I put into the campaign. But I am bitterly disappointed in the people who voted for Bush, still to this day. If I am at all pessimistic, it is not doubt in Obama, or in any of you. It is doubt in the unnamed masses who watched the first four years of this administration and actually thought it merited a second four.

Guilty. But it was kind of a "two turds in a bowl - pick one" sort of election. I just chose the wrong turd, and believe me I regret it (not that my vote, as a Californian, mattered)

scaeagles 08-29-2008 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor (Post 236137)
As for Leo listening to the speech - as I said before, I think that he won't hear it the same as others might. The words mean different things. It couldn't hurt, though after seeing his posts here, I don't think the speech will persuade him. ;) That's as negative as I'll get...

I can't wait to watch the Republican Convention just to see just how much I don't understand of their language these days.


There are many brilliant orators who are and were despicable people, able to persuade with passion or personality. I am NOT suggesting Obama is a despicable person in the least so don't read it that way. I find that reading what someone has to say in a speech takes the magic of personality and charm or whatever the individual possesses out of the equation so I can focus on what they've actually said.

Cadaverous Pallor 08-29-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 236142)
The ONLY guarantee is that if people DON'T remain motivated and positive, he will lose.

Well put, worth repeating.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick (Post 236150)
And for her sake - I do not want to watch her go through what I went through.

Thank you for thinking of me. :) I know I'm an all or nothing person, and I don't get halfway involved in anything.

After Obama lost in the CA primary, I was disappointed, but mostly I felt like I hadn't done enough to help. (True, I wasn't as committed to his candidacy as I am now.) Regret that I didn't try is much worse for me than having a hope crushed.

Ironically - or perhaps, not - a few weeks ago I realized how negative my point of view was on a lot of things. How my interior monologue was bringing me down, as it was always criticizing myself and everything around me. I resolved to do better by myself and others. Everyone, whether their conscious of it or not, is affected by their monologue. And we affect each other with our moods.

I'm sorry things didn't work out for Kerry supporters and others that have invested their heart into campaigns. Once bitten, twice shy, and I totally understand if you have to sit this one out. But please, please be positive. Being negative only hurts. Worrying doesn't help.

These days, I often catch myself being the negative one at work....."Looks like we won't have much to do today." "There's no way we'll get the public to be ok with this new policy." "I'm so tired/bored/busy/unhappy because..." I realize that while these thoughts may be true, voicing them does nothing but bring everyone down, down, down.

I'm not saying don't voice your opinions. I'm saying, if you want him to win, hope he will win. I loved GD's quote so much I'll say it again - The ONLY guarantee is that if people DON'T remain motivated and positive, he will lose.




And now you know how much I would post if I didn't have a job.

Betty 08-29-2008 04:47 PM

Reading your comments sort of reminded me a pep talk to a team before the big game. The idea is to get everyone excited and ready to really fight and win! They pump everyone up and they're all chearing - and they hear a lot of positive talk and reinforcment. Lot's of "we ARE the best" kind of talk.

No one goes to the team before a big game and says: Now guys, I know you're worried about what will happen if you don't win. You're going to feel really bad about it and the other team is going to make you really miserable. I'm really worried that you guys aren't going to do a good enough job. Remember how you sucked in the last game? The way things are going you could suck again this time.


The power of postive thinking is a well known phrase for good reason.


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