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Moonliner 12-09-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 338160)
Or he really did assault those women. I feel badly for them. With all the other sh*t surrounding him I can see them being harassed and dragged through the mud more than a normal investigation/trial for sexual assault.

I can also see men in black hats carrying satchels full of cash going to these women and saying "Are you sure you weren't assaulted?"

JWBear 12-09-2010 09:19 AM

There are some reports that one of the women works for the CIA.

DreadPirateRoberts 12-09-2010 09:58 AM

If she didn't, she might now.

Alex 12-09-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 338170)
There are some reports that one of the women works for the CIA.

There are also some reports that Bill Clinton had Vince Foster and Ron Brown kiled.

Would you mind providing links to some of these reports? I'd be interested in seeing their context.

Ghoulish Delight 12-09-2010 10:16 AM

The reports are that she was once worked with a feminist group that worked with the CIA. Not that she works for the CIA.

Alex 12-09-2010 10:45 AM

All I know is that whenever I see an allegation of rape the first question I ask myself is "How much do I like the accused" so that I know if I should embrace or dismiss out of hand the allegation. The second thing is what is the relative attractiveness of the accuser and the accused since hot guys don't assault ugly girls.

Only as a last resort and when in my cups do I fall back on "I don't really have much information for making any evaluation so I'll just watch how it shakes out." Fortunately, I don't drink much.

alphabassettgrrl 12-09-2010 10:50 AM

Retroactive laws????????

Really, really not acceptable.

innerSpaceman 12-09-2010 11:10 AM

Does anyone besides me think it's awesome that hackers are attacking Amazon and Paypal and Visa and Mastercard in retribution?

JWBear 12-09-2010 11:11 AM

When a man who releases information that is highly embarrassing to the most powerful government in the word is suddenly and conveniently embroiled in a sex scandal, and the accusations get progressively worse, sorry... but I'm going to take everything that is said against him with a very large grain of salt.

If you don't think our government will do everything in their power - legal or illegal, moral or immoral - to destroy him, then you are beyond naïve.

Ghoulish Delight 12-09-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JWBear (Post 338184)
When a man who releases information that is highly embarrassing to the most powerful government in the word is suddenly and conveniently embroiled in a sex scandal, and the accusations get progressively worse, sorry... but I'm going to take everything that is said against him with a very large grain of salt.

If you don't think our government will do everything in their power - legal or illegal, moral or immoral - to destroy him, then you are beyond naïve.

You're right that's very likely.

However, you are equally beyond naive if you don't think that cases of borderline sexual assault/abuse are not routinely ignored and marginalized until the accused becomes noteworthy. Perhaps these women's decision to pursue charges now can be interpreted as opportunistic, and perhaps it IS opportunistic, but that doesn't mean he's innocent. Perhaps he's just a big enough prick that he's kept his accusers too intimidated to come forward, and only now that they knew there'd be media scrutiny did they feel safe enough to do so.

There are untold details that you and I are not privy to. There are countless reasons (both in the accusers' favor and in Assange's) that these women may have waited until now to come forward. No one, other than the actual people involved, has even a fraction of enough information to be as sure as people seem to think they are about which side they think is in the right here.


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