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Name 08-25-2005 09:23 PM

unless you are not friends with the computer guy, then it is a quick lesson in criminal law, firsthand, by way of a felony charge.

DisneyFan25863 08-25-2005 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Name
unless you are not friends with the computer guy, then it is a quick lesson in criminal law, firsthand, by way of a felony charge.


OK, and what about the kid that just enters the password taped to the back of the machine, not knowing what account it is for, thinking its the temp login password for his account or something?




Of course, this is akin to leaving the keys ontop of you're car..if someone comes along and uses it, it is still a crime, even though the keys were left out...

€uroMeinke 08-25-2005 10:02 PM

The kid that uses the password will get farther in life than the one who doesn't - of course, I am an anarchist.

Name 08-25-2005 10:11 PM

I only said that, because the reports I read, they are being charged with felonies.

Monorail Man 08-25-2005 10:17 PM

This poses a question:

What about Spyware?

I worked on my school's computer systems for years, and the big problem we had my junior/senior year, was kids that were accidently installing spyware (clicking Yes to those nasty Java dialog boxes in FireFox). So, in theory, if a student installs spyware by a company, couldn't the school/law pin it on the unknowing student?

Name 08-25-2005 10:22 PM

The kids site

http://www.cutusabreak.org/

Ghoulish Delight 08-26-2005 08:11 AM

Nothing like a little personal responsibility. "They ddin't stop us from breaking the rules, it's the administration's fault!"

€uroMeinke 08-26-2005 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight
Nothing like a little personal responsibility. "They ddin't stop us from breaking the rules, it's the administration's fault!"

Well, taping the password on the back of the machine sounds like entrapment to me.

Besides, I'm still unclear how this violation of computer use policy become a felony? Are the laws written that broadly? Can my company charge me with a felony if I download a chat program against company policy?

And what's this about no letting them refuse the computer - there's a great civil disobediance action in that - just let the batteries die.

Name 08-26-2005 06:34 PM

if you were in pennsalvania(sp), yeah, I suppose it could be a felony.

Ghoulish Delight 08-26-2005 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke
Besides, I'm still unclear how this violation of computer use policy become a felony? Are the laws written that broadly? Can my company charge me with a felony if I download a chat program against company policy?

I believe the 13 that were charged were ones that attempted (and succeeded) to hack the replacement password that they changed it to one they discovered the problem of the password being public.


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