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Ghoulish Delight 02-12-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick (Post 120192)
Wowsa. I've managed to see two Kimball propaganda films in two days.

3 if you count the pacifist message of Ferdiand the Bull.

And of the 3, I'd say this one was the most compelling.

blueerica 02-12-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LSPoorEeyorick (Post 120192)
Wowsa. I've managed to see two Kimball propaganda films in two days.

Very interesting piece-- and I guess I'm not too surprised that an animator made the connection between pinocchio nose and pinocchio (cuckoo noise).

See, I saw the Pinocchio connection, yet I also saw his nose as a phallus, "turned on" by supposed patriotism. The end was not only a symbol of war, a cannon of sorts, but also... you know... "release."

Then again, I might just be a perv.

I still don't know what to make of it. My desensitized eyes don't get excited over a little nudity.

And yeah, I saw me some moovies, Podman...

Ghoulish Delight 02-12-2007 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 120197)
See, I saw the Pinocchio connection, yet I also saw his nose as a phallus, "turned on" by supposed patriotism. The end was not only a symbol of war, a cannon of sorts, but also... you know... "release."

Then again, I might just be a perv.

Not just you, I definitely read that aspect in as well.

Snowflake 02-12-2007 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 120198)
Not just you, I definitely read that aspect in as well.

So did I.

I will need to rewatch Ferdinand tonight.

LSPoorEeyorick 02-12-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blueerica (Post 120197)
See, I saw the Pinocchio connection, yet I also saw his nose as a phallus, "turned on" by supposed patriotism. The end was not only a symbol of war, a cannon of sorts, but also... you know... "release."

Then again, I might just be a perv.

I still don't know what to make of it. My desensitized eyes don't get excited over a little nudity.

And yeah, I saw me some moovies, Podman...

Oh, there is no question that's what the film was saying. I just enjoyed that they used Pinocchio to express that.

mousepod 02-12-2007 11:45 AM

A little trivia - Escalation was the only independent short made by any of the nine old men. Ward must have been very passionate about the subject. According to the OP on youtube, WK's family released this in light of the current events in the Iraq war.

flippyshark 02-12-2007 12:28 PM

Okay, so, this discussion appears to be about three films, Ferdinand, Escalation, and some mysterious other short. Any hints on what that other one is?

I remember reading (a long time ago) about a short called Mickey Mouse in Vietnam. Anyone here seen or know anything about it?

Ghoulish Delight 02-12-2007 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by flippyshark (Post 120208)
Okay, so, this discussion appears to be about three films, Ferdinand, Escalation, and some mysterious other short. Any hints on what that other one is?

I remember reading (a long time ago) about a short called Mickey Mouse in Vietnam. Anyone here seen or know anything about it?

Academy Award winner: Der Fuehrer's Face

YouTube link with Leonard Maltin's intro.


Wait, I take that back, doesn't look like Kimball was involved with Der Fuherer's. Perhaps Ferdinand was the second one that LSPE was talking about afterall.

mousepod 02-12-2007 12:46 PM

Kimball actually was involved in several commercial Disney "propaganda" shorts, namely: The Spirit of '43, Education for Death, Victory Through Air Power, and Reason and Emotion. He was also most certainly involved in the production of many other wartime cartoons. I'll talk about them in the next Mousepod.

LSPoorEeyorick 02-12-2007 12:46 PM

No, I guess I had thought Kimball was involved with Fuehrer's Face. I'm wrong! Just saw two Kimball anti-war films. (And another non-Kimball one. Donald in Nazi gear freaked me out in a big way.)


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