Yes, I always wondered why we had to have the old west to enjoy frontier times, or what's with that stupid jungle just to enjoy adventure!

What???? It's not real?????:eek:

Depends on how hard you believe.

and I will miss it by 12 days- bummer.

Didn't you hear me clapping wildly?


I think it will be nice. Perhaps a bit much on a hot dry Santa Ana condition day, but the park is all about lights and effects at night durring the holidays anyway.

It's funny, I'm fine with all the rest of the theming, because the wild west is hot, as is the tropics (though they could use some humidifiers around there). I do think that the Matterhorn could benefit from some large blasting air conditioners (though I'm sure it wouldn't help the global warming situation), and that the town burning scene in Pirates has always needed a heater (hell is warm in Mr. Toad's, why not the burning town?).

What gets me is how not just the haven of themeing that is Disneyland, but ALL of southern california, from the front lawns decorated with plastic snowmen to the classrooms filled with paper snowflakes, pretends that December equals snow, even though it does not. Does not. It does not equal snow for billions of people, for millions of square miles on this planet. Yet we conform to the pole-centric, high-altitude-centric version of winter. For some reason, it irks me. A plastic palm tree in the dead of a northeast winter would irk me in the same way.

So sure, they can do whatever magical theming they want at Disneyland, and it "makes sense", because it's Disneyland and they can do whatever they want. Doesn't mean I have to think it works or makes sense. :p

I think you're mistaking snow = winter for snow = Christmas.

No matter what the weather is like where you live .... as long as Santa = Christmas, the corrollary equation of snow = Christmas will hold true.














or are you one of those jews who holds that Jesus = Christmas? in which case, of course, desert sands and palm trees hold sway just fine.

Well, I was kind of hoping that I could construe this as regarding Winter instead of Xmas, because I realize that no one gives a sht what a Jew thinks regarding the, shall we say, idiosynchrasies of Xmas. Since Winter and Xmas are so tangled up in our culture it's hard to just seperate those two.

I think I'll stick to my best case, which is that plastic icicles in 70 degree (or 60, 50, or even 40 degree) weather is dumb.

But what if they had special effects that showed them "melting" when the weather was too hot?