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LSPoorEeyorick 02-08-2008 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Afraid (Post 190299)
I couldn't make it through.

That's too bad, it gets delightfully absurdist later on.

innerSpaceman 02-08-2008 08:11 AM

The cupcakes is a minor coda. Click on Shoes, and follow the YouTube breadcrumbs to the entire KELLY series.


Gold.

Pirate Bill 02-08-2008 08:58 AM

I saw somebody dressed up as this Cunningham Muffins character last Halloween. It was a pretty good costume too. Matching wig, large glasses, bloody mouth.

3894 02-08-2008 08:58 AM

So is there a woman comedian who dresses like a man in order to make fun of men?

Pirate Bill 02-08-2008 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 3894 (Post 190345)
So is there a woman comedian who dresses like a man in order to make fun of men?

I think it's pretty standard for all women comedians to make fun of men without actually dressing the part.

Alex 02-08-2008 09:16 AM

Ok, what am I missing? It was pretty stupid after the third absurd muffin type. Is this making fun of something I'm unaware of?

3894 02-08-2008 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pirate Bill (Post 190346)
I think it's pretty standard for all women comedians to make fun of men without actually dressing the part.

But why don't women comedians dress like men? Does it make the muffin skit funnier that it's a man dressed as a woman?

Gn2Dlnd 02-08-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 3894 (Post 190345)
So is there a woman comedian who dresses like a man in order to make fun of men?

Really? I'm pretty sure he's not making fun of women, he's playing a character who's a woman.

Drag is funny (at least to me) because it's not making fun of women, it's a man doing an imperfect impersonation of a woman. Wig askew, make-up not quite right, funny stuff. Lucy got lots-o-laffs every time she donned male drag. It's not humor based on insult, but on the audience looking for little cues that tell them they're watching an impostor.

Anyhow, comedy is subjective. My grandma hated Carol Burnett (who did her own fair share of female drag characters) because she perceived Carol as making fun of old people. Pretty much anything that's funny to some people, won't be to others.

However, if you're still looking for some good examples of sexism in female comedy, listen to just about any woman who does stand-up. They all hate other women.

LSPoorEeyorick 02-08-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 3894 (Post 190349)
But why don't women comedians dress like men? Does it make the muffin skit funnier that it's a man dressed as a woman?

I actually took a whole film class on this. Gn2DL has pegged it, it's certainly a lot about "imposters." Viola's drag in Twelfth Night is plenty funny, too. Kathy Najimy and Mo Gaffney do some excellent funny bits in drag.

Personally, I enjoy men-in-drag comedy - but I think it's more prevalent because it may be accepted for women to veer from their femininity in, say, a board room, but men who appreciate pink still aren't appreciated, capiche?* And things that make people a little uncomfortable also make them laugh (and not necessarily because they dislike it.) This is why, btw, Alex, I find the muffin thing funny. Absurdity makes people uncomfortable. Enough absurdity in a row definitely makes me laugh.

And while drag comedy hinges on the "imposter" hints, I find that the all-around best drag comedy gets even more delicious, the more that we see of Daphne and the less of Jerry in Some Like It Hot.

* this is not to say I don't appreciate femininity in men. I do! I was just speaking of society, and the dregs of society and I are surely at odds in this case.

Pirate Bill 02-08-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 190348)
Ok, what am I missing? It was pretty stupid...

That is what's funny about it. It's nonsensical and stupid to the point of being funny. Each muffin gets more and more outrageous. This was made to be bad on purpose. The long uncomfortable shots and overlapping turns to the camera are intentional to make it look like a 10 year old put it together. That's all part of the gag.

And the character himself is absurd and outrageous. He starts out appearing to just be an awkward "housewife" with muffin making skills and turns out to be a twisted, psychopathic, muffin-obsessed freak.

Anyway, as Gn2Dlnd stated, comedy is very subjective.


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