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Ghoulish Delight 08-22-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon (Post 234512)
GD: Not saying drop area codes, just stop adding so many. Go to an 8-digit regular phone number so that people don't have to dial the area code in their own area. Because now, people in Anaheim have to dial 10 digits every time they call. Then they only have to care about the extra digit when dialing outside their area, in which case they're probably not trying to memorize the number anyway.

It makes more sense to me to keep things consistent. Dial the full 10 for everything, rather than dialing just 7 (or 8) for some numbers, but the full 10 (or 11) for others. Keep it simple.

Adding an 8th digit mean a pretty expansive (doable, but expansive) retooling of our telephone switching system that, with a few billion numbers still unused in the current system seems pointless.

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A LOT fewer: eight digits would be 10 million (10,000,000). Dropping all numbers starting with "0" and "1" (you can't [under our current system] have those as the first number of a phone number) and you're down to 8 million.
There are a lot more than just those that are excluded (any number starting with 911, 411, 555, 311 come to mind, that's another 40,000 right there). But your math is off. Excluding numbers that start with 1 & 0 leaves 80 million, not 8 million. I was keeping it simple with "fewer than 100 million".

BarTopDancer 08-22-2008 02:45 PM

Does it really take that much longer to dial an extra 4 numbers (1+) during the times you actually dial a number?

katiesue 08-22-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 234501)
A habit I got into a long time ago when programming a speed dial number was to always include the area code. That way, when things lime this come up, it ain't no big thing.

Also, at least on our cells, if you just program in the 7 digit number and you are outside your local area code the speed dial won't work.

I like the overlays much better than halving the area code and having to change your number. They did this a bunch of times when we lived in LA and you had to get business cards etc all changed. Pain in the patooey.

Alex 08-22-2008 02:53 PM

The big problem with changing to an 8 digit phone number (with or without area codes) is not the time it takes to dial or the quantity of phone numbers available. It is the secondary cost of every single phone number already in use having to be relearned, the cost to update every phone number listing that currently exists (from personal phone books to advertisements to business cards to the hundreds of other places phone numbers are conveyed).

If the phone company were to say "we're adding a digit to your phone number" the uproar would be huge. Governments would fall, lawsuits would be filed, widows would be left crying in the streets.

Simply requiring everybody to always dial the area code is a simple change that the phone companies can implement almost completely on their own with a minimum of collateral damage.

Morrigoon 08-22-2008 02:57 PM

Sometimes I think you write this stuff just to get quoted, Alex. LOL.

Kevy Baby 08-22-2008 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight (Post 234516)
There are a lot more than just those that are excluded (any number starting with 911, 411, 555, 311 come to mind, that's another 40,000 right there). But your math is off. Excluding numbers that start with 1 & 0 leaves 80 million, not 8 million. I was keeping it simple with "fewer than 100 million".

You are correct. I was the mathematical idiot this time.

Ghoulish Delight 08-22-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 234521)
The big problem with changing to an 8 digit phone number (with or without area codes) is not the time it takes to dial or the quantity of phone numbers available. It is the secondary cost of every single phone number already in use having to be relearned, the cost to update every phone number listing that currently exists (from personal phone books to advertisements to business cards to the hundreds of other places phone numbers are conveyed).

Yes, that is what I was referring to as the "expansive retooling".

Cadaverous Pallor 08-22-2008 04:44 PM

The only reason I'm annoyed at the overlay is that at the library, we have to call people when their item holds become available. Each of us usually makes about 5 of these calls a day, and when it's our turn to process the afternoon delivery, the number can shoot up to 20 or 30. I've been adding 1714 for weeks now to prepare myself, so it's already automatic for me.

RStar 08-22-2008 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevy Baby (Post 234456)
Beginning tomorrow (Saturday 8/23/08 AD) the 657 area code overlay is in full effect. That means that if you live in the 714 area code and you are dialing someone in the 714 area code, you must now dial the 714 area code in addition to the phone number (whereas previously you only had to dial the seven digit phone number).

Check your speed dials and get used to the added digits.

The low down on the details.

But, do you dial 1+714+number?

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Originally Posted by BarTopDancer (Post 234517)
Does it really take that much longer to dial an extra 4 numbers (1+) during the times you actually dial a number?

So 4 numbers being 1+714, right?

Ghoulish Delight 08-22-2008 05:40 PM

Yes, you need to "1" prefix.


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